Chief Stubbs Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Bob Janova' date='22 July 2010 - 01:06 PM' timestamp='1279821979' post='2384597'] Oh really Lone? From the OP: Looks like a tech raid to me. [/quote] *Here* is the point. *Here* is where you hit. You have missed it, sir. Edited July 22, 2010 by Chief Stubbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haquertal Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 [quote name='ktarthan' date='22 July 2010 - 02:36 PM' timestamp='1279823756' post='2384639'] Bob, you are no better than Rebel Virginia - you both do the same thing, attack tech raiding with words. [/quote] At least he's not attacking with words from peace mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groucho Marx Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 [quote name='nutkase' date='22 July 2010 - 12:33 PM' timestamp='1279816391' post='2384500'] Interesting since I never put words in your mouth! [/quote] See, my point lies in the general behavior of those of you who constantly complain about tech raiding like your comments (I'm including Bob's) are making a point about the general behavior of raiders. We can go back and forth insinuating all kinds of things each side is supposedly guilty of, but it's a tired old argument that has no place in a thread where someone is complaining about how [i]he[/i] placed himself in a situation where he was placed on our ZI list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotic Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 [quote name='lonewolfe2015' date='21 July 2010 - 07:50 PM' timestamp='1279738231' post='2382930'] What kind of person has his friends attack an alliance for him and then hides? [/quote] A coward point blank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando12 Posted July 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 [quote name='Emperor Marx' date='22 July 2010 - 02:22 PM' timestamp='1279826504' post='2384673'] has no place in a thread where someone is complaining about how [i]he[/i] placed himself in a situation where he was placed on our ZI list. [/quote] I'm not complaining. In fact I am extremely amused to be in this situation. I figured I would always be a good boy and never imagined I'd ever be under a ZI order. Should be fun times Also to the gent that says 3 days for me to want to end this... If m can ZI me in 3 days then yes I will seek peace. Otherwise I will go to zero infra and enjoy every day of it. My nation will be rebuilt so I do not fear it's upcoming destruction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nippy Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 [quote name='Bob Janova' date='22 July 2010 - 07:58 PM' timestamp='1279821486' post='2384588'] Only against you guys But seriously, I don't know how you got that from my words, I'm just saying that raiding alliances are no better than 'rogues' – you both do the same thing, attack people unprovoked. [/quote] Really, Bob? Come on, man. Yeah, there's a time to argue against techraiding. It's in threads about techraiding. Are you seriously [i]that[/i] hard up for an argument about techraiding that you have to stray into a thread about a completely unrelated topic, simply to provoke a response out of \m/? We have our differences of opinion on a regular basis, but I always thought you were better than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando12 Posted July 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 \m/ is ready for me heheh. All my potential targets have militarized and upgraded their DEFCON and THREAT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M6 Redneck Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 Well Fernando, if I have to give you a few whacks on the way down so be it. A bottom feeder such as myself will take great delight in kicking you when you are down. \M/6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando12 Posted July 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 (edited) [center][size="7"] This just in: I am now under PZI/EZI [/size][/center] So it appears that United Force's run here on planet bob must come to an end, but not without a fight! I'll be seeing \m/ on the battlefield soon and the war will end whenever... [quote]Session Start: Thu Jul 22 16:21:54 2010 Session Ident: #Blinging13 03[16:21] * Now talking in #Blinging13 03[16:21] * Topic is '\m/ Channel http://blinging13.com/forums | RIP s1phrx nvr4get | Word Of The Day: Gollum | 4Today is National Raid Red Team Day in \m/ | Free Slots on Fernando12 Inquire Within | 5$%&@ Europe in gen | http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=89237' 03[16:21] * Set by The_Chief on Wed Jul 21 15:54:15 01[16:22] <Fernando12> where is Marx [16:22] <@HavoK> Away :-P 01[16:22] <Fernando12> hello frenemies 01[16:23] <Fernando12> "The apology must be sincere, and it must pertain to the reason of why you made our !@#$ List in the first place, and you will promise to never do whatever it was again. If you break the NAP and terms of your appeal, you will be placed back on the list and will have to wait a total of 2 months before you can appeal being on our !@#$ List. Expect to be devastated during this time." 01[16:23] <Fernando12> so 01[16:23] <Fernando12> this ZI is an EZI now 01[16:24] <Fernando12> lol [16:24] <@HavoK> *PZI 01[16:24] <Fernando12> if you seriously think you will get a sincere apology from me then 01[16:24] <Fernando12> well [16:24] <@HavoK> EZI would be cross-nation-name 01[16:24] <Fernando12> wont happen [16:24] <@HavoK> i dunno though, just saying [16:24] <Shadow_King> Nando [16:24] <Shadow_King> 06[16:24] * %Hereno popcorn 01[16:25] <Fernando12> your right Havok [16:25] <LegendoftheSkies[Kronos]> EZI Hereno 01[16:25] <Fernando12> so PZI for United Force 01[16:25] <Fernando12> but yeah [16:25] <&EM|Away> If you're unwilling to meet our terms then that's up to you. 01[16:25] <Fernando12> no [16:25] <Shadow_King> <3 EM <3 [16:25] <&EM|Away> Yes, it is. [16:25] <%Hereno> legend you need to stop being mean to me today 01[16:25] <Fernando12> well 01[16:25] <Fernando12> it wont be sincere 01[16:26] <Fernando12> so how could i meet the terms? [16:26] <LegendoftheSkies[Kronos]> I'm mean to everyone [16:26] <&EM|Away> Sucks to be you then. 01[16:26] <Fernando12> heheh 02[16:26] * nabki Quit (Ping timeout) [16:26] <&EM|Away> if you can't be sincere or even pretend to be for a while then that's really your shortcoming [16:26] <LegendoftheSkies[Kronos]> sucks to not be me 01[16:26] <Fernando12> no [16:26] <&EM|Away> Yes. [16:26] <&EM|Away> It is. [16:26] <&EM|Away> It's really simple. 01[16:26] <Fernando12> wouldn't you rather have a sincere apology [16:27] <&EM|Away> What I'd rather want is irrelevant. [16:27] <&EM|Away> Because those are the terms 01[16:27] <Fernando12> i would hope you would want a good foe [16:27] <LegendoftheSkies[Kronos]> Fernando12, join \m/ 01[16:27] <Fernando12> and not some bs apology that don't mean anything 01[16:27] <Fernando12> LegendoftheSkies[Kronos] i'm sure Marx would never allow that [16:27] <LegendoftheSkies[Kronos]> Marx isn't important [16:27] <&EM|Away> You're free to make assumptions. [16:27] <LegendoftheSkies[Kronos]> I run !@#$ in \m/ 03[16:27] * Betto has joined #Blinging13 [16:28] <LegendoftheSkies[Kronos]> even though I'm not in \m/ 01[16:28] <Fernando12> what marx? 01[16:28] <Fernando12> assumptions? [16:28] <&EM|Away> You know. Guesses. 03[16:28] * EM|Away is now known as EmperorMarx 01[16:28] <Fernando12> you should just want a good foe 01[16:28] <Fernando12> a good fight 01[16:28] <Fernando12> and be done 01[16:28] <Fernando12> but oh wells [16:29] <&EmperorMarx> The last time you told me what I should want, you ended up on our ZI List. [16:29] <@HavoK> lol 01[16:29] <Fernando12> lol 01[16:29] <Fernando12> correction 01[16:29] <Fernando12> !@#$ list 01[16:29] <Fernando12> lol [16:29] <&EmperorMarx> Same difference. [16:29] <LegendoftheSkies[Kronos]> same thing really 01[16:29] <Fernando12> i was making a funny [16:29] <&EmperorMarx> Just swallow your pride [16:29] <&EmperorMarx> and do what's required of you 01[16:30] <Fernando12> that is hard [16:30] <&EmperorMarx> And then you can continue to be a pubbie elsewhere 01[16:30] <Fernando12> you have know idea 01[16:30] <Fernando12> with out dignity/pride, people are nothing [16:30] <&EmperorMarx> Though really out of all the terms I'm surprised the biggest problem you have is the apology [16:30] <&EmperorMarx> Though really, I can't say I'm surprised. 01[16:30] <Fernando12> i will not do "what is required" just to save myself 01[16:31] <Fernando12> Marx 01[16:31] <Fernando12> the apology would require me to actually be sorry [16:31] <&EmperorMarx> Why not? You put other people in harm's way to satisfy your personal desires 01[16:31] <Fernando12> thing is [16:31] <&EmperorMarx> It really isn't up for debate [16:31] <&EmperorMarx> Do it or don't. 01[16:31] <Fernando12> i am not sorry and never will be [16:31] <&EmperorMarx> It won't take long to put you into Bill lock and then ZI you. 01[16:31] <Fernando12> yeah 01[16:31] <Fernando12> so 01[16:31] <Fernando12> !@#$ happens [16:32] <&EmperorMarx> Right. Then ride out the ZI. It's only going to be a one time ZI [16:32] <&EmperorMarx> So consider yourself lucky 03[16:32] * nabki has joined #Blinging13 [16:32] <&EmperorMarx> But if you self-ZI I'll throw on 6 months of war 01[16:32] <Fernando12> wait 01[16:32] <Fernando12> i'm confused 01[16:32] <Fernando12> so 01[16:32] <Fernando12> if i go to ZI then all this is over [16:32] <&EmperorMarx> So it's pretty simple 01[16:32] <Fernando12> or 01[16:32] <Fernando12> do you want ZI and the Appeal thing 03[16:32] * Lord_Kusari[NpO] has joined #Blinging13 [16:33] <&EmperorMarx> That all depends on you. 01[16:33] <Fernando12> ZI = no appeal process? 01[16:33] <Fernando12> explain please [16:33] <Shadow_King> this is awesome btw [16:33] <@GeorgetheGreat> are you ZIing him because he's Mexican? 06[16:34] * Fernando12 SK the man with no nation or several...who the hell knows [16:34] <@GeorgetheGreat> Fernando, can you make me a taco? [16:34] <Shadow_King> [16:34] <%WickedJ[CSN]> Oh [16:34] <%WickedJ[CSN]> why didnt someone tell me i was missing lulz [16:34] <Shadow_King> sorry wj 01[16:34] <Fernando12> i'll make you a burrito and shove up your $@! George [16:34] <@GeorgetheGreat> shutup, Wicked Jose [16:34] <Shadow_King> Its EM's fault [16:34] <%WickedJ[CSN]> blow me georgethefag [16:34] <@GeorgetheGreat> burritos make me fart anyway [16:34] <&EmperorMarx> My fault for continuing to try to reason with someone who desires no such mercy [16:34] <@GeorgetheGreat> the $@! will a good place for it to launch 01[16:35] <Fernando12> Marx so 01[16:35] <Fernando12> explain now what 01[16:35] <Fernando12> ZI means no appeal process forum 01[16:35] <Fernando12> or do you want ZI and appeal.... [16:35] <Shadow_King> also Nando... I wasn't referring to you getting roll'd which is funny, but I was referring to getting to see the lulz in public D [16:35] <Shadow_King> * 03[16:35] * Yawoo has joined #Blinging13 01[16:35] <Fernando12> cuz I'll take ZI [16:35] <Shadow_King> Woo for Yawoo! 01[16:36] <Fernando12> public lulz are fun 02[16:36] * p0rkSab3r Quit (Ping timeout) [16:36] <Yawoo> Woo for Yawoo! [16:36] <%WickedJ[CSN]> boo for yawoo [16:36] <Yawoo> NO U! Wicked [16:36] <%WickedJ[CSN]> NOU WOO [16:36] <&EmperorMarx> Fernando12; You're going to be ZI'd but if you'd like a quicker way out without losing all your infra, the appeal process gives you a chance to get out of it. However if you try to Self-ZI yourself in an attempt for an early release you'll find yourself in war longer than you would have gotten by just taking the ZI. 01[16:36] <Fernando12> ok 01[16:36] <Fernando12> no self ZI [16:36] <@GeorgetheGreat> what if he mowed our lawn? 01[16:36] <Fernando12> thats silly [16:36] <@GeorgetheGreat> for a year [16:36] <Yawoo> I suggest self ZIing yourself - Marx is a !@#$% he won't war you [16:36] <%WickedJ[CSN]> Fernando12 i heard you cried like a !@#$%* to the senators 01[16:36] <Fernando12> lol 01[16:37] <Fernando12> no [16:37] <%WickedJ[CSN]> oh? 01[16:37] <Fernando12> i threatened fishguts [16:37] <%WickedJ[CSN]> GREAT way to get a sanction removed 01[16:37] <Fernando12> told him it would be his last month in the senate if he didn't remove the sanction [16:37] <@HavoK> brilliance 01[16:37] <Fernando12> lol [16:37] <Shadow_King> XD [16:37] <%Hereno> rofl 01[16:37] <Fernando12> awesome huh [16:37] <&EmperorMarx> Wow [16:37] <@HavoK> we got a smart one here >.> [16:37] <&EmperorMarx> no wonder you stepped down. [16:37] <&EmperorMarx> Or more likely [16:37] <@GeorgetheGreat> what, was he going to lose your vote? 01[16:37] <Fernando12> i think i have the messages [16:37] <@GeorgetheGreat> what a thread [16:37] <@GeorgetheGreat> threat [16:37] <&EmperorMarx> were forced to step down 01[16:38] <Fernando12> he is losing big now 01[16:38] <Fernando12> well he will lose his senate seat [16:38] <@HavoK> lol OH MY GAWD THREE LESS VOTES O_O [16:38] <&EmperorMarx> Fernando12 is clearly a mastermind 01[16:38] <Fernando12> FAR was voting for Fishguts/WTF since NpO is no longer running [16:38] <%Hereno> i still dont get why you dont just apologize. i mean, saying you're sorry when you were actually wrong makes you more dignified IMO [16:38] <&EmperorMarx> manipulator of the blue team senate [16:38] <%Hereno> and you get to keep all of your infra 01[16:38] <Fernando12> FAR votes make a difference [16:39] <&EmperorMarx> Or at least most of it, Hereno 01[16:39] <Fernando12> they would still vote on my say so perhaps [16:39] <%Hereno> more of it than he would otherwise, yeah [16:39] <%Hereno> enough to matter 03[16:39] * Pomiel[RoK]_GONE has joined #Blinging13 03[16:39] * ChanServ sets mode: +h Pomiel[RoK]_GONE 03[16:39] * Unsure has joined #Blinging13 [16:39] <@HavoK> someone trying to pretend they are relevant itc 03[16:39] * Lord_Kusari[NpO] is now known as Lord_Kusari[NpO]|Query_if_Need 01[16:39] <Fernando12> Hereno: thing is i dont think i'm wrong [16:39] <Unsure> why is this channel not on my ajoin [16:40] <&EmperorMarx> I don't know Unsure, but you should fix that [16:40] <Unsure> oh right it's because i'm out of space for channels [16:40] <Unsure> i can't fit any more without getting a scrollbar [16:40] <Unsure> welp so much for #nv.pvt [16:40] <@HavoK> lol [16:40] <Shadow_King> <Fernando12> FAR votes make a difference <--- Last I heard you're not in FAR and Pandas was in charge amirite? 01[16:40] <Fernando12> yeah SK 03[16:41] * His_Royal_Thickness has joined #Blinging13 03[16:41] * ChanServ sets mode: +o His_Royal_Thickness 01[16:41] <Fernando12> but dont mean I cant message people [16:41] <Shadow_King> well.. [16:41] <Shadow_King> lets piss of 2 alliances instead of 1 [16:41] <%Hereno> meh. more power to you then, i guess [16:41] <%Pomiel[RoK]_GONE> lol [16:41] <%Pomiel[RoK]_GONE> why would anyone listen to you? [16:41] <@HavoK> lolwut u r gonna PM someone elses alliance and tell them who to vote for for senate? [16:42] <Shadow_King> I was a founder of FAR... someone send a message out to FAR nations for me.. telling them Nando is nuts and not to listen to him.. think it'll help? [16:42] <Shadow_King> lulz [16:42] <%Hereno> interpreting it as a threat gives him more credibility [16:43] <%WickedJ[CSN]> way to find yourself on multiple ZI lists 03[16:43] * xR1]FK[ has joined #Blinging13 03[16:44] * montypython[CSN] is now known as montypython[CSN|away] 01[16:45] <Fernando12> Pomiel[RoK]_GONE its already happening and Fishguts is on his way out of next senate term 01[16:45] <Fernando12> they are listening 01[16:46] <Fernando12> plus [16:46] <%Pomiel[RoK]_GONE> you're awesome [16:46] <@HavoK> lol... 01[16:46] <Fernando12> he is WTF [16:46] <%Pomiel[RoK]_GONE> damn [16:46] <%Pomiel[RoK]_GONE> oh wait 01[16:46] <Fernando12> why should a neutral have a senate seat [16:46] <%Pomiel[RoK]_GONE> sweet [/quote] [quote]Session Start: Thu Jul 22 16:39:55 2010 Session Ident: EmperorMarx 01[16:39] <Fernando12> ok 01[16:40] <Fernando12> every talking in there 01[16:40] <Fernando12> so just so i understand 01[16:40] <Fernando12> ZI without any of it being self done and its over 01[16:40] <Fernando12> correct? [16:40] <EmperorMarx> You'd still need to make an appeal and apologize. Even if not pubically. 01[16:41] <Fernando12> why do you insist on an insincere apology 01[16:41] <Fernando12> begging? 01[16:41] <Fernando12> i told you 01[16:42] <Fernando12> no dignity/pride... i rather shoot myself [16:42] <EmperorMarx> I insist on it because I know how much you refuse to do it. [16:42] <EmperorMarx> You're not really in any position to make demands or negotiate. 01[16:42] <Fernando12> so be it [16:42] <EmperorMarx> So you're playing by our terms. And I've been pretty damn reasonable so far [16:42] <EmperorMarx> Even taking the public apology off the table 01[16:42] <Fernando12> not saying your not reasonable 01[16:43] <Fernando12> but an apology of any form is going to be a lie and i will not have my name tied to it as it may come off as begging to get out of this 01[16:44] <Fernando12> i rather shoot myself than not stick to my principles 01[16:44] <Fernando12> you'll get a good foe for however long my nation can last 01[16:44] <Fernando12> but never an apology 01[16:46] <Fernando12> cya Marx Session Close: Thu Jul 22 16:47:01 2010 Session Start: Thu Jul 22 16:47:02 2010 Session Ident: EmperorMarx [16:47] Session Ident: EmperorMarx [16:47] <EmperorMarx> You'll wisen up eventually. The appeal is still on the table, so whenever you decide to man up and do it you know where to go and what to do 01[16:47] <Fernando12> never 01[16:47] <Fernando12> $%&@ it 01[16:47] <Fernando12> i'll reroll 01[16:47] <Fernando12> so be it [16:48] <EmperorMarx> That's your choice then. 01[16:48] <Fernando12> k, thanks Session Close: Thu Jul 22 16:48:19 2010 [/quote] [b]Edit:[/b] logs fixed per mod request, sorry Edited July 23, 2010 by Fernando12 Hostmasks in logs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groucho Marx Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 Lol. So you [i]are[/i] complaining. It's not my fault you won't meet the requirements for peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedj Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 (edited) Where do you get EZI from? you say "ill reroll" and Marx says "thats your choice" i dont see "well track you across rerolls!" btw lets discuss this little snippet [16:37] <Fernando12> i threatened fishguts [16:37] <%WickedJ[CSN]> GREAT way to get a sanction removed [16:37] <Fernando12> told him it would be his last month in the senate if he didn't remove the sanction Edited July 22, 2010 by wickedj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando12 Posted July 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 [quote name='Emperor Marx' date='22 July 2010 - 05:02 PM' timestamp='1279836160' post='2384874'] Lol. So you [i]are[/i] complaining. It's not my fault you won't meet the requirements for peace. [/quote] Not complaining, just informing people of the fate of United Force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurion Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 [quote name='Bob Janova' date='22 July 2010 - 11:20 AM' timestamp='1279811988' post='2384453'] Unwarranted aggression isn't so nice when it's happening to you, is it, raiders? [/quote] Sanctimony, thy name is Bob Janova. And [i]how.[/i] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groucho Marx Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 [quote name='Fernando12' date='22 July 2010 - 06:08 PM' timestamp='1279836470' post='2384881'] Not complaining, just informing people of the fate of United Force. [/quote] A fate you chose for yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando12 Posted July 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 [quote name='wickedj' date='22 July 2010 - 05:05 PM' timestamp='1279836314' post='2384879'] Where do you get EZI from? you say "ill reroll" and Marx says "thats your choice" i dont see "well track you across rerolls!" btw lets discuss this little snippet [16:37] <Fernando12> i threatened fishguts [16:37] <%WickedJ[CSN]> GREAT way to get a sanction removed [16:37] <Fernando12> told him it would be his last month in the senate if he didn't remove the sanction [/quote] Never achieving peace with \m/. You all can argue the terms PZI/EZI, I dont really care what each means. Just saying its the end of United Force and perhaps Fernando12 if I reroll and use the same name and they attack me for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando12 Posted July 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 [quote name='Emperor Marx' date='22 July 2010 - 05:10 PM' timestamp='1279836594' post='2384888'] A fate you chose for yourself. [/quote] It is what it is Marx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groucho Marx Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 [quote name='Fernando12' date='22 July 2010 - 06:11 PM' timestamp='1279836690' post='2384890'] Never achieving peace with \m/. You all can argue the terms PZI/EZI, I dont really care what each means. Just saying its the end of United Force and perhaps Fernando12 if I reroll and use the same name and they attack me for it. [/quote] Do you need some more straws? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedj Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Fernando12' date='22 July 2010 - 05:11 PM' timestamp='1279836690' post='2384890'] Never achieving peace with \m/. You all can argue the terms PZI/EZI, I dont really care what each means. Just saying its the end of United Force and perhaps Fernando12 if I reroll and use the same name and they attack me for it. [/quote] First: you ignored the threats on a senator Second: do you understand whats going on here? You did X so the punishment is Y. and Y is a simple as ZI and an apology for your actions..i see no P or E zi *ANYWHERE* and i was in #blinging13 Edited July 23, 2010 by wickedj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythicknight Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 \m/: Officially Worse Than NPO™ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voytek Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 So basically this thread is one big "LOOK HOW MUCH I DON'T EVEN CARE GUYS NO SERIOUSLY I DON'T CARE CAN'T YOU SEE HOW MUCH I DON'T CARE " ok I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schad Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 If they intend to allow you to go as you please after you're ZI'd, it isn't PZI even if you bill-lock yourself and reroll. Instead, that's generally referred to as "bill-locking yourself and having to reroll", a fate you can avoid by not bill-locking yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando12 Posted July 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 [quote name='Schad' date='22 July 2010 - 05:23 PM' timestamp='1279837370' post='2384913'] If they intend to allow you to go as you please after you're ZI'd, it isn't PZI even if you bill-lock yourself and reroll. Instead, that's generally referred to as "bill-locking yourself and having to reroll", a fate you can avoid by not bill-locking yourself. [/quote] Marx wants an apology even if its "private" which I will not do because a private lie of an apology is the same as a public lie of an apology to \m/. They won't ever get it from me. Plus who is to say that private apology won't go public. Bottomline is \m/ will never get an apology from me no matter what it costs me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando12 Posted July 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 [quote name='Voytek' date='22 July 2010 - 05:17 PM' timestamp='1279837061' post='2384905'] So basically this thread is one big "LOOK HOW MUCH I DON'T EVEN CARE GUYS NO SERIOUSLY I DON'T CARE CAN'T YOU SEE HOW MUCH I DON'T CARE " ok I guess [/quote] Hey ....for brains. I do care, but at the same time I will take what I got coming and I will not beg for mercy and I will not apologize to \m/ to get out of this. That clear enough for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktarthan Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 Fernando, this is not something that I say lightly, but I feel that I must at this time say it. Your reasoning and your ability to refute an argument is almost as bad as Methrage. [i]Almost[/i]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 [color="#0000FF"]I think at least two months of war for this offense is a little extreme (if his appeal is rejected). Very little damage was done to Chief. This is not to say that Fernando was completely right, although I do support him, but the wronging to \m/ was not that severe (then again, this is an alliance that considers tech raid targets who fight back to be 'nuclear rogues'). If anyone should be upset at Fernando it is FAR.[/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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