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I thought it would interesting to get a sample of people's perception of fighting ability. Reorganize the list with badasses at the top and creampuffs at the bottom, there's no right or wrong way to rate them as long as you're being honest about it.

This is the top 40 minus GPA, WTF and TDO. If you can't be assed to rate them all just omit the ones you don't care to bother with.

[b]Edit: This is rating fighting ability, don't turn it into rating how much you like or don't someone. Even if you hate the Grämlins it's still retarded to put them at the bottom, just like being in or allied to M*A*S*H doesn't make them not notoriously inactive.[/b]

Mostly Harmless Alliance
New Pacific Order
New Polar Order
Sparta
Viridian Entente
Fark
Mushroom Kingdom
Orange Defense Network
United Purple Nations
FOK
Global Alliance And Treaty Organization
The Legion
The Order Of The Paradox
Ragnarok
RnR
The Order Of Light
Random Insanity Alliance
Umbrella
Poison Clan
Commonwealth Of Sovereign Nations
Nueva Vida
Federation Of Armed Nations
Independent Republic Of Orange Nations
Siberian Tiger Alliance
Multicolored Cross-X Alliance
The Grand Lodge Of Freemasons
Athens
Nordreich
The International
The Foreign Division
LOSS
Nusantara Elite Warriors
The Grämlins
Guru Order
North Atlantic Defense Coalition
M*A*S*H
The Templar Knights

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The Rating is out of 10.

Mostly Harmless Alliance 8
New Pacific Order 4
New Polar Order 8
Sparta 7
Viridian Entente 4
Fark 3
Mushroom Kingdom 6
Orange Defense Network 6
United Purple Nations 5
FOK 7
Global Alliance And Treaty Organization 7.5
The Legion 7.5
The Order Of The Paradox 8
Ragnarok 6
RnR 9.5
The Order Of Light 8.5
Random Insanity Alliance 2
Umbrella 2
Poison Clan 4
Commonwealth Of Sovereign Nations 7
Nueva Vida 5
Federation Of Armed Nations 4
Independent Republic Of Orange Nations 9.5
Siberian Tiger Alliance 7
Multicolored Cross-X Alliance 5
The Grand Lodge Of Freemasons 1
Athens 2
Nordreich 3
The International 7
The Foreign Division 10
LOSS 8
Nusantara Elite Warriors 1
The Grämlins 0
Guru Order 0
North Atlantic Defense Coalition 3
M*A*S*H 3
The Templar Knights 4

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[quote name='oOoMidooOo' date='18 April 2010 - 01:06 AM' timestamp='1271577952' post='2264737']
The Rating is out of 10.

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It would be nice if you could just re-order the list instead of assigning a numerical value.

Edit: It's also pretty funny that Umbrella got a 2 and TFD got a 10 :rolleyes:

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Mostly Harmless Alliance 8
New Pacific Order n/a
New Polar Order 7
Sparta 8.5
Viridian Entente 8
Fark 8
Mushroom Kingdom 9
Orange Defense Network 9.5
United Purple Nations 6
FOK 9.5
Global Alliance And Treaty Organization n/a
The Legion 5
The Order Of The Paradox 9
Ragnarok 8
RnR 8
The Order Of Light 8
Random Insanity Alliance 8
Umbrella 10
Poison Clan 10
Commonwealth Of Sovereign Nations 8
Nueva Vida n/a
Federation Of Armed Nations 8
Independent Republic Of Orange Nations 8.5
Siberian Tiger Alliance n/a
Multicolored Cross-X Alliance n/a
The Grand Lodge Of Freemasons n/a
Athens 8
Nordreich 8.5
The International n/a
The Foreign Division n/a
LOSS n/a
Nusantara Elite Warriors n/a
The Grämlins 7
Guru Order n/a
North Atlantic Defense Coalition n/a
M*A*S*H n/a
The Templar Knights 8.5


added: aircastle 9.5
The Brigade 9.5

P.S. n/a are alliances that I really dont have any clue about how they did on the war or alliances that not fought the last war.

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I'd love to see this cone by poll some time, hint hint

Mostly Harmless Alliance 5.5
New Pacific Order 5.5
New Polar Order 3
Sparta 2
Viridian Entente 8
Fark 9
Mushroom Kingdom 10
Orange Defense Network 7
United Purple Nations 3
FOK 7
Global Alliance And Treaty Organization 6
The Legion 8
The Order Of The Paradox 6
Ragnarok 9
RnR 5
The Order Of Light 7
Random Insanity Alliance 7
Umbrella 3
Poison Clan 9
Commonwealth Of Sovereign Nations 7
Nueva Vida 7
Federation Of Armed Nations 4
Independent Republic Of Orange Nations 8
Siberian Tiger Alliance 8
Multicolored Cross-X Alliance 10
The Grand Lodge Of Freemasons 1
Athens 8
Nordreich 6
The International 6
The Foreign Division 8
LOSS 4
Nusantara Elite Warriors 7
The Grämlins 0
Guru Order 3
North Atlantic Defense Coalition 7
M*A*S*H 3
The Templar Knights 4

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Umbrella
Mushroom Kingdom
The Order Of The Paradox
FOK
Poison Clan
Nusantara Elite Warriors
Fark
The Grämlins
Nordreich
Viridian Entente
Ragnarok
Federation Of Armed Nations
New Polar Order
Global Alliance And Treaty Organization
RnR
Commonwealth Of Sovereign Nations
Athens
Orange Defense Network
Nueva Vida
Independent Republic Of Orange Nations
Siberian Tiger Alliance
Random Insanity Alliance
The Foreign Division
The International
Sparta
Guru Order
Multicolored Cross-X Alliance
North Atlantic Defense Coalition
Mostly Harmless Alliance
M*A*S*H
The Legion

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Mostly Harmless Alliance [b]2[/b]
New Pacific Order [b]7[/b]
New Polar Order [b]1[/b]
Sparta [b]0[/b]
Viridian Entente [b]5[/b]
Fark [b]5[/b]
Mushroom Kingdom [b]1[/b]
Orange Defense Network [b]0[/b]
United Purple Nations [b]1[/b]
FOK [b]5[/b]
Global Alliance And Treaty Organization [b]6[/b]
The Legion [b]5[/b]
The Order Of The Paradox [b]8[/b]
Ragnarok [b]4[/b]
RnR [b]5[/b]
The Order Of Light [b]6[/b]
Random Insanity Alliance [b]3[/b]
Umbrella [b]2[/b]
Poison Clan [b]4[/b]
Commonwealth Of Sovereign Nations [b]4[/b]
Nueva Vida [b]4[/b]
Federation Of Armed Nations [b]5[/b]
Independent Republic Of Orange Nations [b]6[/b]
Siberian Tiger Alliance [b]7[/b]
Multicolored Cross-X Alliance [b]4[/b]
The Grand Lodge Of Freemasons [b]?[/b]
Athens [b]0[/b]
Nordreich [b]7[/b]
The International [b]?[/b]
The Foreign Division [b]5[/b]
LOSS [b]1[/b]
Nusantara Elite Warriors [b]2[/b]
The Grämlins [b]0[/b]
Guru Order [b]?[/b]
North Atlantic Defense Coalition [b]2[/b]
M*A*S*H [b]1[/b]
The Templar Knights [b]?[/b]

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[quote name='Smacky' date='18 April 2010 - 03:59 AM' timestamp='1271577525' post='2264736']

[b]Edit: This is rating fighting ability, don't turn it into rating how much you like or don't someone. Even if you hate the Grämlins it's still retarded to put them at the bottom, just like being in or allied to M*A*S*H doesn't make them not notoriously inactive.[/b]

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Wise words.... But I garantee you that some clowns will do that (actually somebody already did). I hope some people at least tried to be unbiased. Otherwise the thread has not reason. This is not a popularity contest.

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EDIT: Okay- someone pointed out that I fail at reading. Numbers removed.

The further down the list, the blurrier it gets.

Mushroom Kingdom
Federation Of Armed Nations
The Order Of The Paradox
New Polar Order
Umbrella
Fark
Poison Clan
FOK
The Grämlins
Ragnarok
Nusantara Elite Warriors
Siberian Tiger Alliance
Nordreich
New Pacific Order
Orange Defense Network
Athens
The Foreign Division
Viridian Entente
Commonwealth Of Sovereign Nations
Nueva Vida
The International
Sparta
Random Insanity Alliance
Global Alliance And Treaty Organization
Independent Republic Of Orange Nations
RnR
The Order Of Light
Mostly Harmless Alliance
United Purple Nations
The Legion
Multicolored Cross-X Alliance
North Atlantic Defense Coalition

[u]No Idea[/u]
The Grand Lodge Of Freemasons
LOSS
Guru Order
M*A*S*H
The Templar Knights

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Just to mess with Smacky I'll just assign numerical values like everyone else :D

Mostly Harmless Alliance 6
New Pacific Order 7
New Polar Order 7
Sparta 7
Viridian Entente 7
Fark 8
Mushroom Kingdom 9
Orange Defense Network 7
United Purple Nations 1
FOK 9
Global Alliance And Treaty Organization 6
The Legion 5
The Order Of The Paradox 9
Ragnarok 6
RnR 5
The Order Of Light n/a
Random Insanity Alliance n/a
Umbrella 8
Poison Clan 9
Commonwealth Of Sovereign Nations 6
Nueva Vida 9
Federation Of Armed Nations 7
Independent Republic Of Orange Nations 4
Siberian Tiger Alliance 9
Multicolored Cross-X Alliance 1
The Grand Lodge Of Freemasons n/a
Athens n/a
Nordreich 8
The International 6
The Foreign Division 7
LOSS n/a
Nusantara Elite Warriors 9
The Grämlins 9
Guru Order 5
North Atlantic Defense Coalition 4
M*A*S*H 3
The Templar Knights 6

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[quote name='kriekfreak' date='18 April 2010 - 06:17 AM' timestamp='1271589407' post='2264807']
Just to mess with Smacky I'll just assign numerical values like everyone else :D
[/quote]

I'm not assigning numbers to annoy Smacky, but it doesn't take as much time as shuffling names and the outcomes are much clearer. :P

Mostly Harmless Alliance 4
New Pacific Order 8
New Polar Order 7
Sparta 6
Viridian Entente 8
Fark 8
Mushroom Kingdom 9
Orange Defense Network 7
United Purple Nations 1
FOK 8
Global Alliance And Treaty Organization 6
The Legion 4
The Order Of The Paradox 9
Ragnarok 7
RnR 5
The Order Of Light 7
Random Insanity Alliance 6
Umbrella 9
Poison Clan 9
Commonwealth Of Sovereign Nations 6
Nueva Vida 7
Federation Of Armed Nations 7
Independent Republic Of Orange Nations 6
Siberian Tiger Alliance 6
Multicolored Cross-X Alliance 3
The Grand Lodge Of Freemasons 5
Athens 6
Nordreich 8
The International 6
The Foreign Division 6
LOSS 5
Nusantara Elite Warriors 8
The Grämlins 9
Guru Order 4
North Atlantic Defense Coalition 4
M*A*S*H 3
The Templar Knights 6

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The ones that don't have a rating are the ones I haven't seen in action or paid attention to ( Not an insult )

Mostly Harmless Alliance 7
New Pacific Order 8
New Polar Order 9
Sparta 6
Viridian Entente
Fark
Mushroom Kingdom 6
Orange Defense Network
United Purple Nations
FOK 8
Global Alliance And Treaty Organization 9
The Legion 7
The Order Of The Paradox 9
Ragnarok
RnR
The Order Of Light
Random Insanity Alliance
Umbrella
Poison Clan
Commonwealth Of Sovereign Nations 7
Nueva Vida
Federation Of Armed Nations 10
Independent Republic Of Orange Nations 8
Siberian Tiger Alliance
Multicolored Cross-X Alliance
The Grand Lodge Of Freemasons
Athens 5
Nordreich
The International
The Foreign Division
LOSS
Nusantara Elite Warriors
The Grämlins 7 or 8
Guru Order
North Atlantic Defense Coalition 8
M*A*S*H
The Templar Knights

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Mushroom Kingdom 10
The Order Of The Paradox 10
Fark 9
New Polar Order 9
Independent Republic Of Orange Nations 8
The Grämlins 8
Umbrella 8
Poison Clan 8
Nusantara Elite Warriors 8
Orange Defense Network 7
FOK 7
Random Insanity Alliance 7
Commonwealth Of Sovereign Nations 7
Federation Of Armed Nations 7
Siberian Tiger Alliance 7
New Pacific Order 6
Viridian Entente 6
Ragnarok 6
RnR 6
The Order Of Light 6
Nueva Vida 6
Nordreich 6
The International 6
The Templar Knights 6
Mostly Harmless Alliance 5
Sparta 5
Global Alliance And Treaty Organization 5
The Legion 5
Athens 5
The Foreign Division 5
LOSS 5
United Purple Nations 4
North Atlantic Defense Coalition 4
M*A*S*H 4
Multicolored Cross-X Alliance 3
The Grand Lodge Of Freemasons 3
Guru Order 1

Hmm, looking at other people's ratings it seems we've broken the #5 curse. :D

I realize some of you ex-Hegemony types are still a bit sore from the last war, but rating Polar under 5 is absurd. There is nobody in the world that could go toe to toe with them and win.

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[quote name='Ashoka the Great' date='18 April 2010 - 11:39 AM' timestamp='1271605127' post='2264924']
Gotta admit....haven't laughed like that in quite a while.

Thanks.
[/quote]
FAN a 4 ? Nodriech a 3 ?

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Mostly Harmless Alliance - 2
New Pacific Order - 5
New Polar Order - 5
Sparta - 3
Viridian Entente - 5
Fark -5
Mushroom Kingdom - 9
Orange Defense Network - 5
United Purple Nations - 2
FOK -5
Global Alliance And Treaty Organization - 6
The Legion -4
The Order Of The Paradox - 7
Ragnarok - 5
RnR -5
The Order Of Light - 5
Random Insanity Alliance -5
Umbrella -9
Poison Clan -9
Commonwealth Of Sovereign Nations - 5
Nueva Vida - 5
Federation Of Armed Nations - 8
Independent Republic Of Orange Nations - 5
Siberian Tiger Alliance - 5
Multicolored Cross-X Alliance -5
The Grand Lodge Of Freemasons -5
Athens - 4
Nordreich - 8
The International -5
The Foreign Division - 5
LOSS - 3
Nusantara Elite Warriors - 9
The Grämlins - 5
Guru Order - 5
North Atlantic Defense Coalition - 5
M*A*S*H - 5
The Templar Knights -5


As you can tell, I tend to be of the school of thought that with the proliferation of various war guides that all pretty much say the same things, most alliances are roughly on par with each other, or otherwise average.

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Alright, I'll bite on one of these for once.

Since I feel like complicating things (OOC: and I have a paper I'd rather not be working on :P), I decided to weight my responses. I gave 20% of my rating to my perception of an alliance's historical performance (since this is a "perception" poll), 10% to "impact" (how much you'd notice if the alliance slammed into you), and 70% to recent performance. I also added 0.5 to alliances who I thought have an extra "something" that gives them an extra edge.

As for the "N/As", I really have no idea (or, rather, even less of an idea) about their fighting ability.

My ratings are arranged: Alliance - [color=red][b]Total Rating[/b][/color] (Historical, Impact, Recent) +Intangibles

And, if you just want numbers, look for the bold red ones. :)

Mushroom Kingdom - [color=red][b]8.6[/b][/color] (9, 7, 8) +0.5
Fark - [color=red][b]8.3[/b][/color] (9, 9, 8)
Poison Clan - [color=red][b]8.3[/b][/color] (9, 4, 8) +0.5
Federation Of Armed Nations - [color=red][b]7.9[/b][/color] (10, 5, 7) +0.5
New Polar Order - [color=red][b]7.5[/b][/color] (8, 10, 7)
Nusantara Elite Warriors - [color=red][b]7.5[/b][/color] (9, 3, 7) +0.5
Siberian Tiger Alliance - [color=red][b]7.2[/b][/color] (9, 5, 7)
Umbrella - [color=red][b]7.0[/b][/color] (6, 4, 7) +0.5
Independent Republic Of Orange Nations - [color=red][b]7.0[/b][/color] (7, 7, 7)
The Order Of The Paradox - [color=red][b]6.9[/b][/color] (3, 7, 8)
The Grämlins - [color=red][b]6.9[/b][/color] (6, 8, 7)
FOK - [color=red][b]6.7[/b][/color] (6, 6, 7)
Athens - [color=red][b]6.2[/b][/color] (8, 4, 6)
Ragnarok - [color=red][b]6.1[/b][/color] (6, 7, 6)
Nueva Vida - [color=red][b]6.1[/b][/color] (7, 5, 6)
Random Insanity Alliance - [color=red][b]6.0[/b][/color] (6, 6, 6)
New Pacific Order - [color=red][b]5.9[/b][/color] (8, 8, 5)
Viridian Entente - [color=red][b]5.9[/b][/color] (5, 7, 6)
Mostly Harmless Alliance - [color=red][b]5.8[/b][/color] (4, 8, 6)
RnR - [color=red][b]5.7[/b][/color] (5, 5, 6)
Sparta - [color=red][b]5.5[/b][/color] (3, 7, 6)
Global Alliance And Treaty Organization - [color=red][b]5.5[/b][/color] (4, 5, 6)
The Order Of Light - [color=red][b]5.5[/b][/color] (4, 5, 6)
United Purple Nations - [color=red][b]5.4[/b][/color] (3, 6, 6)
Orange Defense Network - [color=red][b]5.3[/b][/color] (2, 7, 6)
Multicolored Cross-X Alliance - [color=red][b]5.3[/b][/color] (3, 5, 6)
The Legion - [color=red][b]5.0[/b][/color] (1, 6, 6)
Commonwealth Of Sovereign Nations - [color=red][b]4.9[/b][/color] (4, 6, 5)
The Foreign Division - [color=red][b]4.5[/b][/color] (3, 4, 5)
M*A*S*H - [color=red][b]4.2[/b][/color] (2, 3, 5)
North Atlantic Defense Coalition - [color=red][b]3.4[/b][/color] (2, 2, 4)
The Grand Lodge Of Freemasons - [color=red][b]N/A[/b][/color]
Nordreich - [color=red][b]N/A[/b][/color]
The International - [color=red][b]N/A[/b][/color]
LOSS - [color=red][b]N/A[/b][/color]
Guru Order - [color=red][b]N/A[/b][/color]
The Templar Knights - [color=red][b]N/A[/b][/color]

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Mushroom Kingdom 10 (duh)
The Order Of The Paradox 9
Orange Defense Network 9
FOK 9
Umbrella 9
Viridian Entente 8 (they were unexpectedly awesome against NpO)
Poison Clan 8
Commonwealth Of Sovereign Nations 8
The Foreign Division 8
Nusantara Elite Warriors 8
Fark 8
Ragnarok 7
RnR 7
Athens 7
Nordreich 7
LOSS 7
Global Alliance And Treaty Organization 7
Federation Of Armed Nations 7
Siberian Tiger Alliance 7
New Polar Order 6.5
Sparta 6.5
Mostly Harmless Alliance 6
New Pacific Order 6
Random Insanity Alliance 6
Nueva Vida 6
Independent Republic Of Orange Nations 6
The International 6
The Grämlins 5
North Atlantic Defense Coalition 5
The Templar Knights 5
The Order Of Light 5
United Purple Nations 5
M*A*S*H 4
The Legion 4
Multicolored Cross-X Alliance 4
The Grand Lodge Of Freemasons 4
Guru Order 3

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