kriegsdrachen Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Obviously this has nothing to do with who NPO is targeting as priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 This splits alliances are normal in an alliance who absorved so many alliances over the time I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Archer Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Obviously this has nothing to do with who NPO is targeting as priority. We're glad you love us so much, don't worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youwish959 Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Internal: All alliances that go into extended war experience some membership loss. Some of this is due to accidental activity from prolonged nuclear anarchy. Others just can't take it any more and up and quit--this is especially true in a true warrior alliance like Ragnarok that refuses to let up. Additionally, recently a few large members started the Ragnablok alliance "Epicurean," while almost simultaneously we had some rather large "members" of Rage Co. who had temporarily joined to assist in the war effort leave because there is no one in their range left to fight. Yeah, I;m pretty sure NPO didn't lose around 300 or so members when they fought FAN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Brendan Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 It's been my opinion for awhile now that Ragnarok should take a break from the war and let one of their allies that have been sitting out for awhile take their spot. I mean come on, let the rest of us have a turn. Seriously though, it seems dumb to me to have one alliance carry the brunt of the war effort (primary target for alliances #1 and #2) when there are several willing to do their share as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tautology Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 I accept full responsibility for any changes in NS that have occurred in Ragnarok. First I had to sell some Infra because all the NPO targets in my range were in peace mode. Then my targets nuked me. Can you believe that? Topics like this bring a little sunshine into our lives. Thanks, The AUT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klonopin Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 (edited) Yeah, I;m pretty sure NPO didn't lose around 300 or so members when they fought FAN. we lost about 500-600 during the FAn war and about 90% of those were ghosts. Thank you Praetorians On a personal note, I would like to congratulate the New Pacific Order in their zealous removal of ghost nations. Even though they have been in conflict for over two months they have had the resources to remove over 500 poser nations from their ranks. More nations than most alliances even contain. Some have recently cast doubt on Pacifica. They are a worthy adversary as this displays and I tip my hat to them. And no I'm not being sarcastic. Source Edited July 16, 2009 by Klonopin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youwish959 Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 (edited) It's been my opinion for awhile now that Ragnarok should take a break from the war and let one of their allies that have been sitting out for awhile take their spot.I mean come on, let the rest of us have a turn. Seriously though, it seems dumb to me to have one alliance carry the brunt of the war effort (primary target for alliances #1 and #2) when there are several willing to do their share as well. I think it is more of an issue who NPO is targeting. we lost about 500-600 during the FAn war and about 90% of those were ghosts. Thank you Praetorians Then I may be wrong. Edited July 16, 2009 by youwish959 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Archer Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Yeah, I;m pretty sure NPO didn't lose around 300 or so members when they fought FAN. Wait, we had about 623 members at the start of this war? That's news to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Brendan Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 I think it is more of an issue who NPO is targeting. I was suggesting that peace should have been declared between Ragnarok and NPO. Now that I think about it though, I doubt NPO would agree to it if they know someone else would replace them. Which is why you wouldn't tell them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Lee Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Well, some alliances strike secret agreements to conduct a fake war with their opponent, while others keep their dignity and honor in tact. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Well, some alliances strike secret agreements to conduct a fake war with their opponent, while others keep their dignity and honor in tact. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. Sounds unlikely, who would do such a thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Impero Romano Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Obviously this has nothing to do with who NPO is targeting as priority. No, no it really does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Systemfailure Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Oh noes! OUR NS!!!! whatever shall we do? we are getting leaner and we are getting meaner, also we lose more NS because we dont sit in peace mode of the entire duration of this war. Bacon>RoK>Rokkers>Maddogs>Furries>Apple pie>Peace mode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderland Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 A lot of alliances go through post (and during) war problems. RoK is not the only one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 A lot of alliances go through post (and during) war problems.RoK is not the only one. Nobody else, not even NPO who are against 18 alliances are dropping like that. I always assumed being on the curbstomp side guaranteed you a soft war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Ragnarok is sacrificing the most in this war to cure the cancer of the Cyberverse. Respect should be given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred von Tirpitz Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 (edited) I believe everything has been covered by now, -people that wanted to start their own alliance from before the war, finally starting theirs [not having any more targets in their range any more] -people that came over from Rage Co [high NS folk] moving on after having depleted targets in their range -heavily reduced recruitment efforts, deliberate -war not being good for the ghosts in general -Ragnarok members being generally too darned war happy The internal problems being alluded to by some, maybe because of the formation of Epicurean, with along time member TailsK, who was also a former Triumvir at Ragnarok are baseless. TailsK has the blessings of Ragnarok in his effort and were it not so, we would not have been protecting Epicurean. The only internal problem of note i remember in the past one month or so, is two members quarreling on irc when one of them stole a target from another, the target being the nation of Rothinzil. You have not seen people quarreling unless you have seen two Rokkers go at it over a stolen target. Regarding, Ragnarok doing the most of the fighting against NPO? We have no reason to believe it is due to any design on part of the other alliances on the NPO front, and as always, are glad for all the teamwork and co-operation that we as an alliance have experienced on this front. A Hearty thanks to all the alliances on the front for making this a war to remember. Cheers. edit: Typing without morning coffee = stupid spelling Edited July 16, 2009 by Alfred von Tirpitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essenia Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 we lost about 500-600 during the FAn war and about 90% of those were ghosts. Thank you Praetorians Ah, the delicious party line. So false, and blatantly so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astronaut jones Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Ah, the delicious party line. So false, and blatantly so. I'm glad you said it, and not me.. kind of hard to believe that 90% of the 500-600 members they lost during that were were ghosts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookavich Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 RoK has been the shock troops of the NPO front. Cut em some slack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage3 Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 (edited) For everyone worried about our NS, thank you. However, we are not. We have played the part we were understood to play since the beginning happily. We know why the NS has gone down and it does not concern us. We have nations without nukes or SDI that have eaten over a dozen nukes so far with less than a war cycle total spent in Peace Mode. Nations who go out every day and escort lost once-large NPO nations to ZI. Nations who are happy to eat rads because that means their fellow Rokker will not. Even if the NPO were winning (excuse me for a second....BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!) we would still do what we do: rage in the tradition of fierce Viking warriors. I thank everyone who has helped us, all of our allies for being there. I would like to personally give special love to Sparta and VE, I have had great coordination with you guys. So what's wrong? Nothing. We are SO good. Edited July 16, 2009 by Rampage3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 For everyone worried about our NS, thank you.However, we are not. We have played the part we were understood to play since the beginning happily. We know why the NS has gone down and it does not concern us. We have nations without nukes or SDI that have eaten over a dozen nukes so far with less than a war cycle total spent in Peace Mode. Nations who go out every day and escort lost once-large NPO nations to ZI. Nations who are happy to eat rads because that means their fellow Rokker will not. Even if the NPO were winning (excuse me for a second....BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!) we would still do what we do: rage in the tradition of fierce Viking warriors. I thank everyone who has helped us, all of our allies for being there. I would like to personally give special love to Sparta and VE, I have had great coordination with you guys. So what's wrong? Nothing. We are SO good. I'm really confused by all this. NPO hasn't even lost a million NS in a month, and their score is staying pretty steady. How can you blame all your loses on them when they are outnumbered 18:1, and aren't even losing as much strength as you? That can't be the only reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred von Tirpitz Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 I'm really confused by all this. NPO hasn't even lost a million NS in a month, and their score is staying pretty steady. How can you blame all your loses on them when they are outnumbered 18:1, and aren't even losing as much strength as you? That can't be the only reason. As mentioned before, the moving on of several [yes several] high NS nations. Either to form their own alliance or after having done their bit and not having any more targets [these were known temporary members who were once in Ragnarok and then returned for the war]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adolf Von Sippycup Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 NPO hasn't even lost a million NS in a month, and their score is staying pretty steady. Isn't that because they're all in peace mode though? Just saying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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