Coven Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 My apologies if my earlier comment was seen as rude. I meant only to return the same tone we were getting. I guess I was just frustrated. And I was wrong to say "band wagoner". Every alliance has a right to help their friends. See you on the battlefield NV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Un4Gvn1 Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 With nations basically at ZI delivering nukes that do this -- 282.725 miles of land, 94.242 technology, 282.725 infrastructure -- the smaller NV nations will lose quite a bit of infra per week, indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o ya baby Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 With nations basically at ZI delivering nukes that do this -- 282.725 miles of land, 94.242 technology, 282.725 infrastructure -- the smaller NV nations will lose quite a bit of infra per week, indeed. Who cares? Cheaper to rebuild it down there, making your nukes less effective. Nice try on making yourself look cool, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzelger Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Who cares? Cheaper to rebuild it down there, making your nukes less effective. Nice try on making yourself look cool, though. If anything, I think she was supporting the idea that this is nothing like a glorified tech raid for Nueva Vida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desperado Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 I'd love to make some creative saying here but am only able to put it bluntly: good luck finding slots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Un4Gvn1 Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Who cares? Cheaper to rebuild it down there, making your nukes less effective. Nice try on making yourself look cool, though. Your mindset colors your perception of reading. Looking cool is not what any of this is about. Standing up for friends in one's alliance is the bottom line...as well as laughing at having so many alliances on us at the same time. Look up the word 'ridiculous' if you have time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 I don't think that attacking nuclear nations that have been beaten down equates to free tech. Launching one war against one of the alliances that most people on your side has been supporting reparations payments from might though. Just a note: the claim is that NV is able to help on smaller TPF nations. NV's average NS is 10K higher than TPF's, and so far the single war they've launched was by a nation that's 8K above NV's average. Perhaps NV lowbies will attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 TPF must be giving you a harder fight than you expected if you need yet another alliance to help you fight them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzelger Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 (edited) Launching one war against one of the alliances that most people on your side has been supporting reparations payments from might though.Just a note: the claim is that NV is able to help on smaller TPF nations. NV's average NS is 10K higher than TPF's, and so far the single war they've launched was by a nation that's 8K above NV's average. Perhaps NV lowbies will attack. Average nation strength is meaningless. The figure of merit is the number of nations able to hit TPF nations in ranges that the alliances already on them might be having trouble with. I'm not going to waste my time on sorting through all of that, but Nueva Vida does have a significant number of nations in the low range (I believe that TPF has ~80 nations below 10K NS, while NV has ~70, for example). As they are playing a support role rather than prosecuting the war on their own, a perfect match-up isn't needed. They have a low number of wars so far because they declared at an odd time. As has been pointed out, a stunning blitz isn't needed - they just want to help hold the staggers. Your point about tacking on to try to milk TPF for some reparations I concede is conceivable in principle, but it is not the case here. Edited May 15, 2009 by bzelger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janax Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 They have a valid treaty. They enacted valid treaty. What more matters? Nothing. Complain, whine, try and be philosophical about it, whatever floats your boat. It's simply not relevant, as they are not breaking any "rules". Good luck NV, blow some more stuff up for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neneko Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 (edited) TPF must be giving you a harder fight than you expected if you need yet another alliance to help you fight them. As was stated earlier they've dropped out of range from most of their attackers. I'm sure that's part of their brilliant tactic though. edit: also this thread needs more crying. Your tears are delicious. disclaimer: I speak for the entire karma side and this statement is a solid proof that we're as bad as they are. Edited May 15, 2009 by neneko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandwich Controversy Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 (edited) I'm starting to get the impression that a lot of you are illiterate. After destroying tons and tons of TPF's biggest nations, they are now small nations. Since MK and PC are top-heavy this means that we don't have the numbers to keep hitting these nations. It has nothing to do with "giving a harder fight than we expected". NV offered their help and we accepted. It's pretty simple, really. Edited May 15, 2009 by Sandwich Controversy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tequila Mockingbird Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 "giving a harder fight than we expected" I'm crying with laughter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhawk Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 also this thread needs more crying. Your tears are delicious.disclaimer: I speak for the entire karma side and this statement is a solid proof that we're as bad as they are. Thanks for adding that insight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 It's good to see TPF keeping their class and not descending to the name-calling of some of their 'friends' And yes, attacking high tech nuclear nations is clearly a tech raid. Look how well it worked out for the bigger nations, after all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 As was stated earlier they've dropped out of range from most of their attackers. Thats usually what happens when lots of alliances fight one. I recommend forward planning, good luck TPF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutkase Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 (edited) I'm starting to get the impression that a lot of you are illiterate. After destroying tons and tons of TPF's biggest nations, they are now small nations. Since MK and PC are top-heavy this means that we don't have the numbers to keep hitting these nations. It has nothing to do with "giving a harder fight than we expected". NV offered their help and we accepted. It's pretty simple, really. Umm I think your missing a number alliances from that, which are attacking TPF. Edit: Spelling Edited May 15, 2009 by nutkase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fupresti Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 get off the crack pipe, NV are basically bandwagoning for noob training/free tech whatever you want to call it Yeah, cause attacking nations with 3K plus tech, sizable warchests, Manhattan Projects and SDI's is a good chance at free tech. Do you even understand how the game is played? Why don't you have a seat at the kids table and let the adults talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neneko Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Thats usually what happens when lots of alliances fight one. I recommend forward planning, good luck TPF. The forward planning was to add bottom heavy alliances when they dropped out. See where I'm going with this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wu Tang Clan Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Well I guess I can get behind this. Although if you have knocked around their big nations so much you can't even attack them any more, at which point is this thing going to peace out? Good luck to all involved. Thanks for adding that insight. Posts thanking someone for insight add less insight than the original post. We don't want to seem hypocritical now do we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzelger Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Well I guess I can get behind this. Although if you have knocked around their big nations so much you can't even attack them any more, at which point is this thing going to peace out? Good luck to all involved. You can't peace 'em out if they won't surrender (by the way, good show on that bit, TPF). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryievla Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 I can't imagine that of ALL the alliances on TPF, there just aren't enough in range to hit them. However, I have heard good things about NV's military. And it seems from my perspective, anyhow, that TPF is putting up an incredible fight. It makes sense to get some help from folks with a solid reputation for fighting. So no, doesn't look like a band-wagon to me. Looks like TPF are tough as nails; they make folks like Jack Bauer look like sissies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhawk Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 (edited) Well I guess I can get behind this. Although if you have knocked around their big nations so much you can't even attack them any more, at which point is this thing going to peace out? Good luck to all involved.Posts thanking someone for insight add less insight than the original post. We don't want to seem hypocritical now do we? Was an appeal to keep it positive, we don't need a nose dive of world vs altergo, although we still luv him Edited May 15, 2009 by mhawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wu Tang Clan Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 You can't peace 'em out if they won't surrender (by the way, good show on that bit, TPF). I know. I figured that was the case. It was a statement about TPF's resolve not about the others being unmerciful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceremony Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 ps: If anybody thinks I can't tell time and wants to show off their superior ability at reading clocks feel free to post about this DoW's relation to update, it'll be very impressive. Who cares if you can't read clocks? The important thing is to know how to clean 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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