The Zigur Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) You were well aware we were becoming a traditional alliance, considering you attempted to join the first Senate but were replaced by Nintenderek of all people. We also seized the Green Senate the first week of our existence, not after you were removed. You may be thinking of when we ghosted TOP, and got them sanctioned, causing GGA to lose their sanction, which was pretty hilarious. Additionally, Schatt, Doitzel, and Sponge would all disagree with your "lack of content" after you were removed. Also, stop talking about yourself. Rayvon and I have thoroughly debunked all of your delusions of grandeur. In reality, you've accomplished nothing yet claim to be one of the greats. Becoming a traditional alliance was something I very loudly opposed. I wrote extensively within Vox Populi why it should be more like a political party and even allow people to sign up anonymously, but your unimaginative mind was too transfixed on numbers rather than ideology. All Vox Populi needed to do was attack NPO where they were weak, and reveal the inherent contradictions in their imperialist latter-hegemony. The only objectives Vox needed to accomplish was seizing the red senate and reveal the futility of EZI. By attacking Pacifican ideology, Vox helped bring down NPO, but all the extra stuff with the green senate was nonsense and weakened the movement. The absolutely worst thing was the establishment of Vox Populi as an "alliance" of about 30 people who were EZI'd. Awesome job refocusing the public view towards Vox Populi's weaknesses. PS by "lack of content" I refer to anything substantial from Vox after November. You are correct in that I still published content after leaving Vox. Edited February 11, 2014 by Tywin Lannister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krashnaia Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) We're so powerless it needed a huge dogpile to try and take us down and even then they couldn't make us surrender :war: Just a matter of time. :popcorn: Hey, look, now people are discussing Vox. This is getting better. Maybe we will go back all the way to GATO-INC. . Edited February 11, 2014 by Krashnaia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) Becoming a traditional alliance was something I very loudly opposed. I wrote extensively within Vox Populi why it should be more like a political party and even allow people to sign up anonymously, but your unimaginative mind was too transfixed on numbers rather than ideology. All Vox Populi needed to do was attack NPO where they were weak, and reveal the inherent contradictions in their imperialist latter-hegemony. The only objectives Vox needed to accomplish was seizing the red senate and reveal the futility of EZI. By attacking Pacifican ideology, Vox helped bring down NPO, but all the extra stuff with the green senate was nonsense and weakened the movement. The absolutely worst thing was the establishment of Vox Populi as an "alliance" of about 30 people who were EZI'd. Awesome job refocusing the public view towards Vox Populi's weaknesses. A political party would never be successful. Kind of like the one you founded that is enjoying no success at all and is nearly universally derided. Additionally, we allowed people to sign-up anonymously and as the recruiter for a large amount of these, I know firsthand how it went. If you really thought our public nations were the entirety of Vox, then we succeeded in our goal. Organizing into a real alliance allowed us to better handle our PR and coordinate efforts much better. If you don't remember we had quite a few incidents with members that we had absolutely no control over, tarnishing our name. It also established a true leader of the front, who was able to lay out an agenda and ideals. For some reason you assumed turning Vox into a Francoist group would bring down Pacifica. Anyone with a brain could see that nobody cares about Francoism. To bring down the NPO we had to get their allies to turn on them and convince everyone there wasn't much NPO could do to you. You also completely ignore the fact that NPO wasn't the only problem. You have a very strange obsession with Pacifica. So much so that you've spent your entire time here either railing against them, or outright worshiping their ideals. See, I have history on my side, as Vox was a massive success. Our methods have proved to be the correct route, so why on earth is an ostracized reject attempting to critique what went wrong in a successful movement? Worry about your own fledgling political party first. Try enacting those ideals you're suggesting here, and see if anyone is awake after 10 minutes. Just a matter of time. :popcorn: Hey, look, now people are discussing Vox. This is getting better. Maybe we will go back all the way to GATO-INC. . Next, Tywinn will attempt to claim he founded GATO, and INC, and then organized that war to create a peaceful era of global stability. Edited February 11, 2014 by Starfox101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Please detail in your mind how Vox Populi was a success, so I can debunk your rediculous claims as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Please detail in your mind how Vox Populi was a success, so I can debunk your rediculous claims as a whole. Please detail in your mind how Vox Populi was a failure, so I can debunk your ridiculous claims as a whole. Seriously, read a history book. Your over-inflated ego and bloated self worth have led you to think that anyone rejecting you is awful - when it is the exact opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Please detail in your mind how Vox Populi was a failure, so I can debunk your ridiculous claims as a whole. Seriously, read a history book. Your over-inflated ego and bloated self worth have led you to think that anyone rejecting you is awful - when it is the exact opposite. You started this, and you never explained why Vox Populi was a success. Actually, you made several interesting claims. But first, the most important: Why was Vox Populi a success? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Congrats to Tywin and Vox on pea- oh, no? Not right? Oh, okay then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) You started this, and you never explained why Vox Populi was a success. Actually, you made several interesting claims. But first, the most important: Why was Vox Populi a success? Because we won? There is no long explanation. It isn't rocket science. Now, enough of this thread derail. If you really wish to continue this, PM me and I might possibly respond in the next 6 months. Edited February 11, 2014 by Starfox101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Because we won? There is no long explanation. It isn't rocket science. Now, enough of this thread derail. If you really wish to continue this, PM me and I might possibly respond in the next 6 months. Hahaha, the scoundrel reveals himself for what it is. Let me know when you can define victory, and how Vox Populy "won" within the context of your own confused, directionless ideology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolutionaryRebel Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Please detail why we should encourage yet another thread derail by individuals whose comments hardly deserve a response as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 "You refused to continue to trash up this thread, I win."this is the average person who thinks I'll pay them reps, if anyone was wondering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 "You refused to continue to trash up this thread, I win."this is the average person who thinks I'll pay them reps, if anyone was wondering. Im not the one claiming victory for stuff without attempting to back it up with anything other than "we won." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Im not the one claiming victory for stuff without attempting to back it up with anything other than "we won." I mean, really. Winning generally means you achieved victory. You're looking for a long winded answer to a simple question. I think I'm going to ally NSO and NPO just to be on the opposite side of Tywinn. It must be nice. You heard it here first, Stewie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 I mean, really. Winning generally means you achieved victory. You're looking for a long winded answer to a simple question. I think I'm going to ally NSO and NPO just to be on the opposite side of Tywinn. It must be nice. You heard it here first, Stewie. So you cant write a long post to define victory, all you can do is write long posts to attempt to defame me. Let me know when you can define when, how and why Vox Populi "won." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted February 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Let me know when you can define when, how and why Vox Populi "won." Will you hold your breath in silence till he does? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krashnaia Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 So you cant write a long post to define victory, all you can do is write long posts to attempt to defame me. Let me know when you can define when, how and why Vox Populi "won." Why should he? You will spin anything he writes, as you are cleary arguing for the sake of argument. And it's not like your opinion matters to anyone, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 In a village of idiots, it is the smart one who is called fool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOLO SWAG Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 In a village of idiots, it is the smart one who is called fool. You're so dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolay Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 In a village of idiots, it is the smart one who is called fool. No? In a village of idiots everyone is a freaking idiot. Including you. Get a bbetter analogy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Idiot Lannister. I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord bagel Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 No? In a village of idiots everyone is a freaking idiot. Including you. Get a bbetter analogy. In the village of idiots, everything is a joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) Well Nikolay, Ooc In a controlled industry, it is the Kanyes who draw heat. In a reactionary society, it is the Lenins who draw oppression. In a corporate environment, it is the Jimmy Hoffas who draw bullets. /ooc Edited February 12, 2014 by Tywin Lannister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 In a truly controlled industry, Kanye wouldn't open his mouth.My nation's top leaders are sitting here studying his rants instead. Cause we're totally Beyonce fans too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolutionaryRebel Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 In a game of politics, it is the Lannisters that nobody wants to listen to because they're not germane to discussions of actual worth, like that of the New Sith Order, where this waste of time has been taking place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 I realized that I hadn't even posted in our own peace thread, to see that it had devolved into talking to Tywin, and then I was sorta glad I didn't. Anyway, go us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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