muwen1234 Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Good fighting. It was fun! We'll get you guys next time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 I dunno why NG is a requirement to get NPO out of war. That's on you. Nope, hate to break it to you but... I thought one of the things for NPO to get peace was that all alliances in the coalition peace out before they can This individual has the correct answer. NG supporting NoR's hold out is hurting NPO and extending the amount of time that it will be under terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opportunity Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Nope, hate to break it to you but... This individual has the correct answer. NG supporting NoR's hold out is hurting NPO and extending the amount of time that it will be under terms. Cool story. NoR totally wouldn't leave the war if you offered sensible terms. Totally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) Cool story. NoR totally wouldn't leave the war if you offered sensible terms. Totally. Bear in mind, the longer you stay in this war the more likely I join in actively on your front, which means I will be asking my own terms, asking to surrender to DoD will be the least of your worries then. Edited February 7, 2014 by Mogar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 I just wish I could act all big and bad over nuking 2k NS nations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dochartaigh Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Welp. That's going to be a pain if Nordreich don't want to peace out. How selfish of NoR. Instead of swallowing their pride and ensuring their allies are out of the war (as well as an ally of an ally), they don't. Cool story. NoR totally wouldn't leave the war if you offered sensible terms. Totally. What about the terms are not sensible? Are we asking you to disband? No. Are we asking you to pay reps? No. Are we asking you to not send aid to anyone? No. Are we forcing you to stay in PM? No. You are to surrender. That is all. Yeah, that is totally harsh and draconian along the lines of demanding Bassman be viceroy over NoR... Cool story Brah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 How selfish of NoR. Instead of swallowing their pride and ensuring their allies are out of the war (as well as an ally of an ally), they don't. There are few things in Bob which are unbreakable. Nordreich history of never surrendering is one to be admired. Just as Ragnarok didn't surrender in 11. So why don't you guys admit that you have no way of forcing the end to this war DoD wants due to their incompetence and let NG and Nordreich withdraw from hostilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dochartaigh Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 There are few things in Bob which are unbreakable. Nordreich history of never surrendering is one to be admired. Just as Ragnarok didn't surrender in 11. So why don't you guys admit that you have no way of forcing the end to this war DoD wants due to their incompetence and let NG and Nordreich withdraw from hostilities. Which version of NoR? Cuz I remember a NoV disbandment at the end of a war with TPF (now that was a harsh term go figure that NoR is trying to present a surrender as equivalent). As for forcing, sure we do. It is our will versus NoR's will to have most of their alliance wither in PM. If NoR wishes to try to galvanize their failing alliance with this war, so be it. But they will either surrender or continue to war until they surrender. If our side wishes to grant mercy, that will be at a later date as I doubt the chest-puffing and crap being spewed forth by NoR/NG have done anything other than harden our resolve to force NoR to surrender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Jesus Christ you literally can't force anyone to agree to anything. Get over it, Doch, you're far above this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 I just wish I could act all big and bad over nuking 2k NS nations You just have to lead them a little less... There are few things in Bob which are unbreakable. Nordreich history of never surrendering is one to be admired. Just as Ragnarok didn't surrender in 11. So why don't you guys admit that you have no way of forcing the end to this war DoD wants due to their incompetence and let NG and Nordreich withdraw from hostilities. It could be argued, and I think very successfully, that Ragnarok's stand helped to ensure the slow death of the alliance. I don't see that as admirable. What else can I say but, "enjoy your war" because I know I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Which version of NoR? Cuz I remember a NoV disbandment at the end of a war with TPF (now that was a harsh term go figure that NoR is trying to present a surrender as equivalent). As for forcing, sure we do. It is our will versus NoR's will to have most of their alliance wither in PM. If NoR wishes to try to galvanize their failing alliance with this war, so be it. But they will either surrender or continue to war until they surrender. If our side wishes to grant mercy, that will be at a later date as I doubt the chest-puffing and crap being spewed forth by NoR/NG have done anything other than harden our resolve to force NoR to surrender. I can totally disband NoR too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsayka Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Considering we waited for almost a week for each side to get sigs in (mainly yours) AA's who are lacking sigs either for your side, or ours, have no one to blame but themselves, and thus can't place blame on anyone but themselves. We asked about them daily and showed the draft. Statement is falser than false. We had no copy of the draft until I asked for it, the night before this was posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Statement is falser than false. We had no copy of the draft until I asked for it, the night before this was posted.I wonder how it feels to get owned as collateral damage in a mogar joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dochartaigh Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Jesus Christ you literally can't force anyone to agree to anything. Get over it, Doch, you're far above this. I never stated I would force anyone to agree to shit mate. I said NoR will be forced to surrender unless our side feels generous. There is a difference. NoR does not have to agree with the surrender but if they want their alliance to actually be able to function at all (without residing in PM until they decide to surrender) and be able to regrow afterwards (as well as if they actually give two shits about NG who is still at war because of NoR). So no, I can't force anyone to agree to anything but alliances can be forced to surrender even if they don't agree with it. Look at DT when they surrendered to CSN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 DT wasn't "forced" to do it, and if you'll recall SF holding DT hostage - and thereby holding NoR's involvement in DH-NPO up -- was a large part of why SF got its shit pushed in directly after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerdge Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 (edited) Sj, I had the full intention of deleting when I started BF1.I confirm this 100%.It's not my place to express any judgment of BF1 or of any other alliance or of what they do, but I am glad that Stewie didn't leave CN, and not just because he then joined the GPA and was a good member for all his stay.I doubt that there's actually anyone that would have liked that Stewie had disappeared, regardless of enmities, in fact.Of course all I want to underline is the character and the value of the man, which is a very respectable one. I can't say anything about his current allegiances and goals, other than acknowledging that his friends are lucky that he's with them in the party. Even if some will say that he's a bit late... :)I forgot: obligatory congratulations to all the parties that got peace. May you rebuild fast and steady. :) Edited February 8, 2014 by jerdge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buscemi Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 I never stated I would force anyone to agree to !@#$ mate. I said NoR will be forced to surrender unless our side feels generous. There is a difference. NoR does not have to agree with the surrender but if they want their alliance to actually be able to function at all (without residing in PM until they decide to surrender) and be able to regrow afterwards (as well as if they actually give two !@#$% about NG who is still at war because of NoR). So no, I can't force anyone to agree to anything but alliances can be forced to surrender even if they don't agree with it. Look at DT when they surrendered to CSN. You are either kind of stupid or deliberately chest puffing in really ridiculous ways. Everything you've said here shows that. Sorry man, but NoR entered this war, one they knew would be against bandwagon odds and did so happily. If you think NoR is straining anything, you are mistaken. Seriously, I guess it really shows the state of MI6 if you would even say that. You also don't have a clue how our world's war system works and if you want to remain at a state of war while you stroke your ego, fine. That is your right. Your perma-grudge with NPO has created the longest great war (to this level of continued NS) in history. You really think your petty threats mean anything to alliances that have the cultures of NG or NoR? We aren't UPN or MHA. We live for war and have had a blast doing it and NoR has had the best dmg ratio of our coalition. And there is the glaring fact that we are more than happy to see your enemies grow in peace as some of you act like ungracious, kid-in-a-candy-store power trippers. You have more to lose than we do. And despite all your spin, you can't change that. Not some silly threat, just the reality of our world's war dynamics. Maybe if you hadn't waited 3 months to finally end this war, you might have had more leverage. But not now. We don't hardly even remember a time when NG or NoR wasn't at war. And if your side had done coalition peace, which was smart for everyone, you wouldn't have the current problems you now have. I feel like your negotiating tactics are simply to just do the opposite of us. Anyone that knows anything about negotiating knows how stupid that methodology is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 (edited) Normally I'm not one to say an alliance should get white peace over a surrender without terms when they are on the losing side of the war (as its just semantics), but in the case of NoR I think they should get it just to wipe that smugness off bassman's face. Edited February 8, 2014 by Methrage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buscemi Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 NoR isn't asking for white peace either. I really don't see why they want to make a big deal of "admission of defeat" vs. surrender. But that's their call and they have every right to keep this state of war going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorSoul Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Dammit Nordreich, you're stealing all the attention from the renowned attention whores that are R&R, NATO, and TIO. This is OUR thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opportunity Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Which version of NoR? Cuz I remember a NoV disbandment at the end of a war with TPF (now that was a harsh term go figure that NoR is trying to present a surrender as equivalent). As for forcing, sure we do. It is our will versus NoR's will to have most of their alliance wither in PM. If NoR wishes to try to galvanize their failing alliance with this war, so be it. But they will either surrender or continue to war until they surrender. If our side wishes to grant mercy, that will be at a later date as I doubt the chest-puffing and crap being spewed forth by NoR/NG have done anything other than harden our resolve to force NoR to surrender. Disbandment isn't a surrender. NoV isn't NoR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Disbandment isn't a surrender. NoV isn't NoR. I explicitly refused to agree to any type of surrender, your choices were to not exist, or eternal war, the fact you'd rather stay in PM forever over the semantics of "admission of defeat" and "surrender" is kinda silly, but if you dont mind Pacifica burning forever, its whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYIyTh Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 (edited) Dammit Nordreich, you're stealing all the attention from the renowned attention whores that are R&R, NATO, and TIO. This is OUR thread. I'm not really sure why though. Getting a hold of GOD was your guys' issue, not ours. We were fully prepared to achieve peace with GOD seperately. Y'all weren't. Not saying I disagree with that, but trying to hold us accountable for that is kind of silly. @ Tsy It took an entire five minutes to produce a "draft," not that it differed at all from what had been agreed to in public and private earlier. Drafts are generally just that, and considering the ambiguity with respect to you all even agreeing to peace or not I'm not sure why it was on us to have it ready to go immediately -- several days after the hold up on your end finally cleared and was unsure of whether y'all were going to follow through or not. But we did. So not sure of the issue. Edited February 8, 2014 by IYIyTh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Lord of Funk Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Love how two nations from the alliance with the most pathetic performance on the battlefield declared AFTER peace. Stay classy Guru.... nGLF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 reminder that there were jokes made in the thread and it suddenly became (when on-topic) explicitly about how R&R's ally in GOD is terribad at communication.somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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