TBRaiders Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 For !@#$% and giggles, just say "No Peace for Nordriech" so DoD can hit whomever comes out of peace mode. Seriously, at least it would give me something to do on here besides collect. Lord knows they aren't fighting. And just by reading the last 19 pages of pure drek, I can honestly state I was never a member of Nordriech nor do I ever want to be. All I see is a replay of sour grapes done over and over again when an alliance splits and what's left is just..... Well.... Terrible. I like NoR and would like to see them get peace and for my allies in NG to get peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 For !@#$% and giggles, just say "No Peace for Nordriech" so DoD can hit whomever comes out of peace mode. Seriously, at least it would give me something to do on here besides collect. Lord knows they aren't fighting.And just by reading the last 19 pages of pure drek, I can honestly state I was never a member of Nordriech nor do I ever want to be. All I see is a replay of sour grapes done over and over again when an alliance splits and what's left is just..... Well.... Terrible.Yeah, NoR is the one with sour grapes... And yet, your alliance is the one demanding a surrender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 I like NoR and would like to see them get peace and for my allies in NG to get peace. I guess this is the confusing part. The dispute's over a single word, which would lead me to believe neither side of the equation really wants peace *that much*. If that's the case, continuing the war's for the best anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opportunity Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) I guess this is the confusing part. The dispute's over a single word, which would lead me to believe neither side of the equation really wants peace *that much*. If that's the case, continuing the war's for the best anyway? Bassman is squeezing the nuts of everyone on his side really hard because, as the former kronprinz of Nordreich, and as a butthurt rage quitter, he knows that Nordreich has never in its history surrendered as an individual alliance, and what it would mean to the legacy and morale of the alliance if we were to do so, especially to a bunch of commies. He wants to be able to smugly put that on his resume. That's why this is happening: one fat man's agenda. Edited February 7, 2014 by Opportunity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Never surrendered as an individual alliance sounds like such a specific stipulation. Still, if the cost of peace is greater than the cost of war for Nordreich, I'm just as happy as yall are for it to continue. Proceed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opportunity Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Never surrendered as an individual alliance sounds like such a specific stipulation. Still, if the cost of peace is greater than the cost of war for Nordreich, I'm just as happy as yall are for it to continue. Proceed. You got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dochartaigh Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 You know I personally think NoR is being silly here, and should accept the surrender and end the war. However, I would simply like to comment that the bravado coming from you is comical at best. I cannot wait to see how much you and your alliance cries when the tables are turned. I have been on both sides numerous times as has most in this alliance. Many member have suffered far worse terms than NoR can even hope to claim in this war and survived. But please, feel free to hold your breath while you wait for us to cry mate. How you've changed. Changed? Yes. Frankly, most of the alliances crying right now have done and instigated far worse in the past. Much like kerschbs is implying, when it is MI6's turn to be on the opposite side, the past (such as this) will be brought up. Most likely by those that are right now claiming that their alliance's past should not matter. Go figure, I tire of the hypocritical bullshit spewed forth by the vast majority of people in leadership. BTW- I did bitch about the terms demanded of DT by CSN long ago but paid my fair share of said terms without a whimper. IIRC, I was also amongst the loudest in demanding retribution from CSN when the tables turned. So I have not changed all that much as you are trying to imply. I was never for "everyone gets white peace, lets shake hands and call it a day" bullshit that seems to be in vogue now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonaspect Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Some would call that poaching, seeing as they all followed you within a very short space of time, that could only have been coordinated behind the scenes. But hey, you did it, it worked, and now you are getting your revenge, by destroying the alliance you swore eternal allegiance to, and in which you constantly derided others for doing individually that which you accomplished en mass. So congratulations on a job well done I do though, find it strange that you are now allied with leftist alliances, whom you regularly ranted against and wanted to see destroyed, in fact some of your ex-NoR members were the most fanatical opponents of anything on the left. Better hope that some of your allies do not do the same digging on your membership that they have on NoR's, the truth would certainly put the cat among the pigeons I have no particular problem with leftist alliances personally, but I would like to remind you that we are not allied to any "leftist" alliances either. In the whole time I have spent in DoD I have never seen any particularely right wing remarks, I admit some of the nation names in our alliance are distasteful, however we can't force our members to rename their nations, and believe me if I see any problematic remarks I would personally push for expulsion. I also remember some intelligent remarks regarding us being Commie Nazis at the start of the war.. that was the point where I lost my faith in the intelligence of your members. Asking for a surrender is not a hard term Y_Y OOC: My great grandparents died in the Holocaust, I would prefer it if you guys stopped trying to paint us as Nazis, thank you :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dochartaigh Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Bassman is squeezing the nuts of everyone on his side really hard because, as the former kronprinz of Nordreich, and as a butthurt rage quitter, he knows that Nordreich has never in its history surrendered as an individual alliance, and what it would mean to the legacy and morale of the alliance if we were to do so, especially to a bunch of commies. He wants to be able to smugly put that on his resume. That's why this is happening: one fat man's agenda. From what I hear, Bassman ain't squeezing anything on our side. No need to with people like you spouting off at the mouth. You are all NoR needs to ensure that those fighting NoR are more than willing to support Bassman. You may not be gov but you need an attitude adjustment. NoR may have done more damage but who cares. That does not mean a damn thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 OOC: My great grandparents died in the Holocaust, I would prefer it if you guys stopped trying to paint us as Nazis, thank you :)Nobody said this, and as someone who was on your forums a few months back your members are largely conservative, to put it lightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonaspect Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Nobody said this, and as someone who was on your forums a few months back your members are largely conservative, to put it lightly. I agree that most of our members are conservative, but I have never seen anything that would get anywhere close to the things people have been implying, and yes, NoR did say it ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pd73bassman Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Bassman is squeezing the nuts of everyone on his side really hard because, as the former kronprinz of Nordreich, and as a butthurt rage quitter, he knows that Nordreich has never in its history surrendered as an individual alliance, and what it would mean to the legacy and morale of the alliance if we were to do so, especially to a bunch of commies. He wants to be able to smugly put that on his resume. That's why this is happening: one fat man's agenda. You are the model of ignorance and NoR really would be doing themselves a favor blocking your ignorance from the OWF. Once again I need to remind you that I am not pulling any strings on this front, we are all on the same page. So really unless you know what you are talking about you really should shut up, you are embarrassing yourself here. As much time as you spend on the OWF talking about me I would say you are the ones that are butthurt, it's comical. As for your ridiculous comment about all the extremists leaving to form DoD. As dumb as that is I will play to your stupidity. Let's assume what you are saying is correct, are you then saying your alliance harbored known extremists while denying it to the rest of CN? I think anyone with a clue about you knows better so please give it up. Here is Nordreich surrendering and admitting defeat from the last war when we were on the same side. So don't go saying you haven't surrendered before, you have even been forced to disband once as well. You are in the same situation as you were last war, came in for an ally and you have lost. Now I will cease to post here anymore because this thread is not about NoR or DoD, it's about TLR receiving peace on their front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 (edited) Here is Nordreich surrendering and admitting defeat from the last war when we were on the same side.He said as an individual alliance but thanks for playinge: also nice attempt at pretending NoR is the same alliance from 07. I guess GOONS=GOONS too, right? Edited February 8, 2014 by Neo Uruk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pd73bassman Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 (edited) He said as an individual alliance but thanks for playing e: also nice attempt at pretending NoR is the same alliance from 07. I guess GOONS=GOONS too, right? I forgot you know so much about NoR Rey, my bad this wouldn't be surrendering as an individual alliance either, so thanks for playing as well Edited February 8, 2014 by pd73bassman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 (edited) I forgot you know so much about NoR Rey, my bad this wouldn't be surrendering as an individual alliance either, so thanks for playing as wellI'm not pretending to know them intimately, but I'm fairly aware that several gov turnovers have happened in the last five years since reformation, let alone since the first incarnation was around.So you are demanding both NoR and NG surrender to DoD on the same document, then? e: I actually forgot you were even at war with NG :v Edited February 8, 2014 by Neo Uruk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hormones74 Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Bassman is squeezing the nuts of everyone on his side really hard because, as the former kronprinz of Nordreich, and as a butthurt rage quitter, he knows that Nordreich has never in its history surrendered as an individual alliance, and what it would mean to the legacy and morale of the alliance if we were to do so, especially to a bunch of commies. He wants to be able to smugly put that on his resume. That's why this is happening: one fat man's agenda. No one is squeezing nuts here. Your attitudes will be your downfall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opportunity Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 (edited) I'm not pretending to know them intimately, but I'm fairly aware that several gov turnovers have happened in the last five years since reformation, let alone since the first incarnation was around. So you are demanding both NoR and NG surrender to DoD on the same document, then? e: I actually forgot you were even at war with NG :v I'd be okay with admitting defeat alongside NG. After all, they are the sole reason we joined this war. I just can't see any scenario where NoR would abandon the battlefield before NG. Edited February 8, 2014 by Opportunity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dochartaigh Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 I'd be okay with admitting defeat alongside NG. After all, they are the sole reason we joined this war. I just can't see any scenario where NoR would abandon the battlefield before NG. Wait, is this going to be the new excuse now? Is it going to shift from NoR should not surrender to DoD, to NoR won't leave NG on the battlefield? Cuz everything I have heard said that NG has peace but won't leave because of NoR. Now NoR won't leave because of NG? Please keep your stories straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshuaR Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 I'd be okay with admitting defeat alongside NG. After all, they are the sole reason we joined this war. I just can't see any scenario where NoR would abandon the battlefield before NG. This is precisely the scenario being offered. Glad we could come to a peace agreement! We'll iron out the details now on IRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunzzz Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Ng doesnt want to leave the war before NoR, and NoR doesn't want to leave before NG... One of you have to decide who wants to call it quits eventually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CnaedmacAilpn Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 I have no particular problem with leftist alliances personally, but I would like to remind you that we are not allied to any "leftist" alliances either. In the whole time I have spent in DoD I have never seen any particularely right wing remarks, I admit some of the nation names in our alliance are distasteful, however we can't force our members to rename their nations, and believe me if I see any problematic remarks I would personally push for expulsion. Which is exactly the same policy they pursue in NoR. Something, with my background to which I wholly agree. This is a game with no place for extremists of any political, religious or ethnic bias. I also remember some intelligent remarks regarding us being Commie Nazis at the start of the war.. that was the point where I lost my faith in the intelligence of your members. Well, I have to say, there were remarks from both sides. Sadly, no matter which alliance you are in, you are always going to have uninformed individuals either talking about things they do not comprehend, or those that cam only make stupid statements. Asking for a surrender is not a hard term Y_Y From what I can gather, the folks at war are having fun. Pixels are just that, pixels. Perhaps a time will come when it is on the table, not for me to decide or talk about, as I am not in a position for leadership OOC: My great grandparents died in the Holocaust, I would prefer it if you guys stopped trying to paint us as Nazis, thank you :) That, I am afraid works both ways. My mother was a Prussian German, my father a highlander Scot. So I had a paternal side which fought the National Socialist regime. My mother's side were split with those fighting for and others who fought against (paying the ultimate price). Frankly there are too many children in this game using tags like Fascist, Communist and 'Nazi' without having any understand what it means. Either way, good post, nice to see someone who can use a reasoned argument for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CnaedmacAilpn Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Wait, is this going to be the new excuse now? Is it going to shift from NoR should not surrender to DoD, to NoR won't leave NG on the battlefield? Cuz everything I have heard said that NG has peace but won't leave because of NoR. Now NoR won't leave because of NG? Please keep your stories straight. No, just his view, views vary in this, just as every other alliance. As he is not Government (nor I, for that matter), it remains to be seen how things will go. My own opinion, I have only recently come to NoR, but for me, I would rather be in an alliance which is prepared to stand by an ally to the bitter end, than in one of those that abandon allies in their hour of need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Ng doesnt want to leave the war before NoR, and NoR doesn't want to leave before NG... One of you have to decide who wants to call it quits eventually You could just get them both out. You guys have some little itty bitty control here as the winning coalition. "NG, you're out. NoR, you're out. Let's sign this shit and move on." Or alternatively, you can blame them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 You could just get them both out. You guys have some little itty bitty control here as the winning coalition. "NG, you're out. NoR, you're out. Let's sign this !@#$ and move on." Or alternatively, you can blame them. Blaming us is easier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 (edited) Blaming us is easier Seems the preferred route. Minimal self-onus, put everything on everyone else's shoulders. Bear no responsibility, can't be blamed for anything on the resolution if you don't raise a finger to help create it. Edited February 8, 2014 by Rayvon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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