Declaration From The Independent Republic of Orange Nations

[Hereno]

It is spelled Ronny... have a little respect please.

 

Ace did offer me peace this morning tho.  Nice kid, seems a little defeated about the beating he is taking. I am sure he would love it if you helped him out a bit.

 

Hereno,  you know one of our two alliances is currently bent over and taking it like a champ.  It doesn't look like its us tho.

 

This is the point I was trying to make.

 

And this is your head.

[Rayvon]

Hereno,  you know one of our two alliances is currently bent over and taking it like a champ.  It doesn't look like its us tho.

While the other is on its knees (I guess that'd be you, since we're the one's taking it in the ass) .... So what's your point?

[Goldie]

 

Im not real sure where you get the "rolling over" thing from. Did you guys find 5 targets above 100K NS who all seem to be AFK ? Yep.  Too bad for them. There are literally 5 of 90  guys not fighting back, you and Ronnie seem to have found 3 of them yourselves. Our damage differential is 380K right now (380K more received than done)... the damage the 5 nations not fighting back have taken (and that is there own fault, to be frank, they deserve what they get) is 274K. You wont find too many other guys engaging any of our nations who think we are "rolling over".... As for damage ratio (even with our sad 5, which I will forever call them, until they fix themselves), we are almost exactly the same ratio as your friends in Mortal Wombat. Are your allies rolling over? (no , they are not, I will answer that for you.) Perspective is a funny thing based on the side you are on.  Perspective can also be a fleeting thing. If our sad 5 had gone to PM (which was there order because they said they were unable to be around), we wouldnt be having this roll over conversation.

 

There is a difference between rolling over and being AFK. Id rather they were rolling over, tbh.

Point taken, if you're saying that my criticisms should only apply to your top tier, then that's one I can accept. I will disagree with you on the MW point, because the ratios aren't really as close as you make them seem.

[Goldie]

 

VE in its current form really isn't standing. It's more like a 'downward-facing dog' position.

You can keep telling yourself that. It's you that will be spending the rest of your existence on your knees though, because it is the fact that you're so un-allyable that put you in this position to start. Man though, if only you guys had a GOONS treaty.

[Hereno]

You can keep telling yourself that. It's you that will be spending the rest of your existence on your knees though, because it is the fact that you're so un-allyable that put you in this position to start. Man though, if only you guys had a GOONS treaty.

 

lmao you probably thought that this post was clever

[Goldie]

 

lmao you probably thought that this post was clever

You probably thought your alliance wasn't garbage, we all make mistakes of judgement.

[Rayvon]

You can keep telling yourself that. It's you that will be spending the rest of your existence on your knees though, because it is the fact that you're so un-allyable that put you in this position to start. Man though, if only you guys had a GOONS treaty.

lol - attempting to belittle us about being on our knees (of??) while flaunting that you cockblocked a treaty discussion with GOONS. What you saying about GOONS here?

[Neo Uruk]

You can keep telling yourself that. It's you that will be spending the rest of your existence on your knees though, because it is the fact that you're so un-allyable that put you in this position to start. Man though, if only you guys had a GOONS treaty.

It's funny because you're acting as if NSO was wanting the GOONS treaty and Sard wanted nothing to do with them.

Or are you implying that the might of the VEto lives on and that GOONS are in fact on their knees? Edited November 23, 2013 by Neo Uruk

[Rush Sykes]

Point taken, if you're saying that my criticisms should only apply to your top tier, then that's one I can accept. I will disagree with you on the MW point, because the ratios aren't really as close as you make them seem.

 

Well, as with everything, its subjective. Last war, our upper tier was fantastic (did I mention we were the #3 alliance in damage ratio that war? The thing is... our  upper tier that scrapped and fought  is now our mid-tier. We call it the Fark effect (and its a compliment, not a knock on Fark). In Grudge, we eliminated Fark of any semblance of an upper tier.. so they adjusted and became a mid-tier machine. It worked well for them. The difference is.. our upper tier wanted to be an upper tier again, we just ran out of time. Its the cumulative effect of fighting TOP then Fark then being swarmed for 85 straight days. The fewer nations you have in total, the more it sticks out when only a few fail to fight back. Such is the case for us and MW.

Edited November 23, 2013 by Rush Sykes

[Hereno]

You probably thought your alliance wasn't garbage, we all make mistakes of judgement.

 

look at this tough guy telling me what's up

 

brb, [s]dropping[/s] leaving NSO for him

[Goldie]

It's funny because you're acting as if NSO was wanting the GOONS treaty and Sard wanted nothing to do with them.

Or are you implying that the might of the VEto lives on and that GOONS are in fact on their knees?

I imply neither of those things. I'm making a statement that NSO can't sign allies and has to run back to Papa P every time to keep itself afloat.

[Hereno]

I imply neither of those things. I'm making a statement that NSO can't sign allies and has to run back to Papa P every time to keep itself afloat.

 

i'd rather get rolled every war until the apocalypse than treaty an alliance as shitty as yours or iron

 

like honestly, there's such a thing as playing politics and then there's the abortion that is VE

 

let's give goldie a hand for not having surrendered before this thread was made

 

and for VE probably still being able to fight in the war a week after it started

[Neo Uruk]

I imply neither of those things. I'm making a statement that NSO can't sign allies and has to run back to Papa P every time to keep itself afloat.

Oh well ok then.

Wait no NSO could have signed allies!

[Tick1]

 

What are you babbling about? I have never ever approached this game in a manner that "if 1 person in an alliance says it, it must be the way the whole alliances feels." If I did, I would have never left TLR in C&G. Never stayed tied to MK and GOONS. Never signed with NPO. There are lots of folks in all of those entities whom I do not care for and whom do not care for me. YOU do not represent anything of Umb viewpoints. Show me where I made it abundantly clear that you represent ANYTHING... other than trying to tow a party line. I will wait. I wont expect you to actually show it though.

 

I'm not going to grave dig your posts, but I will just assume you are old and forgot your own opinion.

[Rush Sykes]

 

I'm not going to grave dig your posts, but I will just assume you are old and forgot your own opinion.

 

Translated : I said something dumb now I must back away.

[Tick1]

 

Translated : I said something dumb now I must back away.

 

Yes, cause I would like to dig through posts 8 months ago.

[leongsh]

 

I'm not going to grave dig your posts, but I will just assume you are old and forgot your own opinion.

 

 

 

Translated : I said something dumb now I must back away.

 

 

 

Yes, cause I would like to dig through posts 8 months ago.

 

Tick1, put up or shut up. While Rush may be old, it's not by default that being old makes him forget his own opinion.

Edited November 24, 2013 by leongsh

[Neo Uruk]

vouching that rush is really old

but he doesn't forget

[Tick1]

 

 

 

 

 

Tick1, put up or shut up. While Rush may be old, it's not by default that being old makes him forget his own opinion.

Go raid Knights of Ni! again,

[Ernesto Che Guevara]

2) You don't have anyone in range because you're a pathetic coward, much like your alliance mates.

 

Shit clumps together. ;) 

[leongsh]

Go raid Knights of Ni! again,

 

That shows how little you know. I'm one of the few in Athens who chewed out those within who went for the raid on the Knights of Ni! Stop flaunting your lack of knowledge.
 

Still waiting for you to put up or shut up, Tick 1.

Edited November 24, 2013 by leongsh

[Tick1]

 

That shows how little you know. I'm one of the few in Athens who chewed out those within who went for the raid on the Knights of Ni! Stop flaunting your lack of knowledge.
 

Still waiting for you to put up or shut up, Tick 1.

 

Shows how little you know since I supported that decision in FoB since Athens actually had balls back then.

[leongsh]

 

Shows how little you know since I supported that decision in FoB since Athens actually had balls back then.

 

Stop changing the topic, Tick1. You lack integrity. I did not state anything about you supporting that decision in FoB. You made a wrong assumption that me being in Athens meant I raided Knights of Ni! and thus telling me to go raid them again. You made a wrong assumption and trying to cover it.

 

Back to the main question stated in my post [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/119363-declaration-from-the-independent-republic-of-orange-nations/page-29#entry3198996]here[/url]. You were challenging Rush and have not put up any solid evidence. Put up or shut up.

[Tick1]

 

Stop changing the topic, Tick1. You lack integrity. I did not state anything about you supporting that decision in FoB. You made a wrong assumption that me being in Athens meant I raided Knights of Ni! and thus telling me to go raid them again. You made a wrong assumption and trying to cover it.

 

Back to the main question stated in my post here. You were challenging Rush and have not put up any solid evidence. Put up or shut up.

 

Actually that isn't the topic at hand, read the OP if you really want to see what the topic at hand is.

[leongsh]

 

Actually that isn't the topic at hand, read the OP if you really want to see what the topic at hand is.

 

The matter at hand is this:

 

You stated the following in the post [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/119363-declaration-from-the-independent-republic-of-orange-nations/page-27#entry3198763]here[/url]:

 

 

I know this isn't your standpoint, but it's Rush's logic that if one person in the alliance says something about anything then it sticks to the entire alliance. You can argue with Rush if you want, but he has made it abundantly clear to me that I represent Umbrella's viewpoints when I speak out here therefor so do you or anyone else from TLR until he tells me otherwise.

 

You have made an assertion that you have not supported when Rush challenged you on the assertion you made of him . You have yet to provide evidence of that assertion. Put up or shut up.

 

Trying to hideaway by using diversionary means does not work.