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The matter at hand is this: You stated the following in the post [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/119363-declaration-from-the-independent-republic-of-orange-nations/page-27#entry3198763]here[/url]: You have made an assertion that you have not supported when Rush challenged you on the assertion you made of him . You have yet to provide evidence of that assertion. Put up or shut up. Trying to hideaway by using diversionary means does not work.
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Stop changing the topic, Tick1. You lack integrity. I did not state anything about you supporting that decision in FoB. You made a wrong assumption that me being in Athens meant I raided Knights of Ni! and thus telling me to go raid them again. You made a wrong assumption and trying to cover it. Back to the main question stated in my post [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/119363-declaration-from-the-independent-republic-of-orange-nations/page-29#entry3198996]here[/url]. You were challenging Rush and have not put up any solid evidence. Put up or shut up.
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You're really desperate to extrapolate something out of it. GATO is posting to get clarification that it is FARK government sanctioned war and not just rogue attacks. One thing that I have known with dealing with GATO are that they are sticklers for procedure and process. GATO (and the rest of CnG) are doing quite okay - better than we expected - and chugging along nicely in this war.
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Hello, Non Grata, how are you? We are fine.
leongsh replied to Randalla's topic in Alliance Announcements (IC)
Can I speak that NPO and TLR have a strong relationship and that we plan to take over Planet Bob together with NG after this war? Or is that opsec? -
Apology from Non Grata
leongsh replied to King Xander the Only's topic in Alliance Announcements (IC)
Please stop ruining their delusion. Let them be happy with it. -
So, so, so tempting... arrrgggghhhhh :(
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I may just stay in peace mode for much longer just to spite you guys. This is from someone (me, that is) that has 5 million casualties - the quiet/unlikely warmonger from Athens (still the best Greece).
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[quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1358859381' post='3083623'] I'm thinking it was intentionally to you and GATO out. [/quote] You still don't need that many. Now, we'll never hear the end of this in the CnG forums and channel.
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Really? Do you guys need that many to take on ODN and INT? The gloating by ODN and INT will be unbearable in the CnG forums and channel.
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Announcement from The Order of the Paradox
leongsh replied to Voodoo Nova's topic in Alliance Announcements (IC)
Congrats to Voodoo and the new office holders in TOP. -
The Predictable Unpredictable Treaty Name [Insert Here]
leongsh replied to Salmia's topic in Alliance Announcements (IC)
[quote name='Ogaden' timestamp='1355171648' post='3062447'] AirMe I wish you would stop being a fig leaf for TLR's many divergences from the "old C&G" founding principles.[/quote] The "old CnG" founding principles have not really changed. It is an MADP bloc. It is not just a suicide bloc but also a survival bloc. The purpose of the bloc is first and foremost, to survive, and if in dire straits, to go down together as a suicide bloc. Whichever mode it operates depends on the threats against it. CnG fights against those who threaten it. You want to question my CnG credentials on this? [quote name='Ogaden' timestamp='1355171648' post='3062447'] Yes you were not there for C&G's change in direction from scrappy underdog to backstabbing realpolitikier, nor were you in power when TLR moved clearly into the "bully" column under Rush's administration, but you have power now, for the love of god, use your power, make some changes. It doesn't have to be this way.[/quote] CnG is scrappy irrespective of whether we are underdogs or not. You can call us "backstabbing realpolitikier" mainly because you have not really done much to really engage us except where we see PR blitzes before wars. CnG are mainly pragmatic. We will do what we need to do to secure CnG, especially if there are threats to break us or split us. TLR became a "bully" during Rush's administration? Stop playing the victim. Trying to instigate or rile us will only get a fierce and rabid response. Rush is fiercely and rabidly protective of TLR and CnG. He will do what it takes to protect and steer TLR and CnG to safer grounds. If you expect TLR to suffer fools gladly, you're sorely mistaken. If you think now that AirMe being one of the triums of TLR will change that, again you're sorely mistaken. Enough on questioning TLR and CnG here. If you want to discuss this further, come to the TLR forums. This is a thread about the ODP treaty between IRON and INT. So, let's congratulate both IRON and INT and move on. -
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leongsh replied to Salmia's topic in Alliance Announcements (IC)
[quote name='Prodigal Moon' timestamp='1355124735' post='3062350'] Hm, so C&G's external treaties only [i]look [/i]like a mess because those of us on the outside take every legal defense obligation literally. But you all know that ultimately they don't mean jack !@#$, because you're going to do whatever you need to do to maintain self preservation. Great plan, but I think people are starting to catch on![/quote] Just goes to show that you do not understand that CnG is an MADP bloc and what that means. All alliances that sign treaties with CnG members are aware that CnG will put its own members first. Very simply because the CnG MADP treaty reigns supreme and overrides all other treaties each CnG member has. Any alliance that signs with a CnG member alliance which is not aware that CnG members will consider their future collectively first, has either a) not done their homework or b) chosen to ignore it. As an MADP bloc, CnG comes to a common conclusion of what it needs to do for the sake of CnG to meet its goals as well as for its continued survival and viability, irrespective of whether it is on the winning or not. Of course, when it comes to war, CnG fights to win. We're not masochists who fight wars to lose. Fundamentally, CnG member alliances make decisions that take into account the whole bloc. We are practical and not dogmatic in our approach and decisions. Once CnG makes a decision, we are ready to live with the consequences of it. We deal with our direct allies in a positive constructive manner. Any direct ally that tries to game the treaty links to put CnG in a spot will only find themselves to blame when we decide not to back their adventure/shenanigans. -
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leongsh replied to Salmia's topic in Alliance Announcements (IC)
[quote name='magicninja' timestamp='1355010669' post='3061952'] ..especially considering how muddled our treaty situation is in CnG.[/quote] There's a reason for it to look like that to those outside. CnG, as a bloc, will do what it needs to do for itself. [quote name='magicninja' timestamp='1355010669' post='3061952'] If people on either side care about CnGs placement maybe it's something they will consider...if not well then they will do what they want regardless of our approach and it really doesn't matter does it?[/quote] What? That elephant in the room? Please continue ignoring it. We know who is saying what and doing what. Leave these trolls be. Give them free rein to poison whatever efforts their more sensible leaders are doing. -
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leongsh replied to Salmia's topic in Alliance Announcements (IC)
[quote name='Garion' timestamp='1354886207' post='3061424'] Here's a tissue. [/quote] No thanks. I don't want to get contaminated by the innanity contagion that you guys carry and spread around. -
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leongsh replied to Salmia's topic in Alliance Announcements (IC)
Troll as much as you guys want. Irespective of what we in CnG do, most of you will troll it. In the end, CnG will do what CnG thinks is the best course of action for the sake of CnG. While we argue loudly and vehemently within our forums and amongst ourselves, we truly work at maintaining ourselves as "the mowst yunified bloc in the wurld". Every member alliance in CnG understands this and will do the necessary for the CnG bloc. Our direct allies that actually regularly communicate and work together with us also understand this. -
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leongsh replied to Salmia's topic in Alliance Announcements (IC)
Looks like CnG's efforts to screw all calculations and inject uncertainty is working. -
[quote name='Wyrmon' timestamp='1348856983' post='3035257'] I look forward to trying to bring down the TLR beast from within. [/quote] The culling has begun...
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[quote name='The Corrupt Teacher' timestamp='1348271009' post='3032921'] Do [b][i][u]I[/u][/i][/b] want CnG to roll vast majority of you? Yes [/quote] Corrupt, we're getting there... Have patience. [quote name='The Corrupt Teacher' timestamp='1348271009' post='3032921'] Hell it took TLR months to get the NPO treaty and if you read that thread it's probably x100 more inflammatory than this <snip the rest>[/quote] Thanks for the reminder
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An Announcement from The Complaints and Grievances Union
leongsh replied to Mandellav's topic in Alliance Announcements (IC)
Considering the circumstances in which the bloc was formed, it's gratifying to see CnG survive and continue. My nation has been in a CnG alliance since joining Heroes of the Union, then being part of the merger that became Athens, and now part of the merger that became The Last Remnants. I rarely if ever do hails but this time, it's warranted. o/ CnG -
You Are Invited to a Most Cordial Affair
leongsh replied to AirMe's topic in Alliance Announcements (IC)
[quote name='scytale' timestamp='1340729618' post='2997337'] [img]http://www.worldtvpc.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/WooHooHomer.jpg[/img] [/quote] It's still to choose one - beef, chicken, seafood or vegan. Not two out of four, not three out of four and most definitely not all four. Don't get your hopes up. So, shall we put you down for beef? -
[quote name='Mephala' timestamp='1340598130' post='2995268'] Those of you attacking ODN hopefully didn't forget about this: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=111582[/quote] I'm quite sure they didn't. However, if they did forget... [quote name='Yankees Empire' timestamp='1340598247' post='2995275'] I think the word is: oops.[/quote] Ditto
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Could you guys please hurry up and make a decision as to which SF alliance is supposed to counter us? I'm tired of waiting