Hime Themis Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 [img]http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt360/KirkeMykonos/OBR_CourtChamber/OBR_Flag-1.jpg[/img] [img]http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc318/Pensare/Boards/Apparatus/ApparatusPeace.png[/img] Gentle Persons We in The Order of the Black Rose have been blessed with knowing some truly memorable alliances and some notable leaders. Not all have been friends though we respect those with different views. What truly honours us is when these true leaders and wonderful alliances call us friends. Our connection to one alliance goes back to their original days as Amazon Nation and the amazing leader Lady Randalla. With the merger of the protectorates came a new face and Steam Punk theme. Who cannot love a Steam Punk Amazon Warrior? Certainly not us. We have maintained a treaty through the change but the final step was one charter right apart. Something we truly appreciated. Now that treaty has been modified and there is nothing that prevents us now tying our selves to an alliance that has proven themselves time and again including the last war when they unlike other when they saw the way was blowing did not attempt to float on the wind to advantage but turned into the gale knowing what the whirlwind would reap. We welcome with gratitude The Apparatus joining with The Order of the Black Rose and the Rosular Kingdom in signing The Covenant. The Covenant The signatories of this Covenant come together to share a style of values in the way they wish to conduct the business of inter-alliance affairs. This covenant is the easiest to join and the easiest to leave. We welcome all those alliances who share this set of principles to affix their signatures, to show how they wish to be judged on Digiterra. Failure to abide by them means that the alliance forfeits the benefit of this accord with like minded alliances. The Covenant is not meant as a judgment for those who choose a different path. It is meant to clearly outline the means to measure the signatories' future actions. Is our way the best way? Is our way the right way? Is our way the moral way? To all these, we answer: We do not know, but it is our way. We believe: 1. War is always an option, but it is the last option, not the first. 2. Diplomacy is more than threats or insults. 3. Neutrality in a conflict does not mean indifference. 4. Alliances do not need to be best buddies to respect each other. 5. Friends tell friends when they are acting badly. 6. Most actions are not a casus belli. 7. Civility is not common, but should be. 8. Civility does not suspend itself in times of war or peace. 9. Mistakes happen, and if respect is shared, resolution can be swift and fair. 10. Those who confirm these values by signing may always request, but not command, defensive help unless prohibited by official neutrality. 11. That financial support is what partners do when another is in need, including economic cooperation where desired. 12. Wars are fought to defend a principal or friend, not to acquire assets. 13. In the rare case where punishment is required for egregious actions, the penalty shall be distributed to unrelated small parties, to help build Digiterra. 14. Fighting a friend or foe can be done with dignity and honour, regardless of the eventual victor. 15. The niceties of formal written treaties is not required but desired. 16. Aggressive wars are not in our repertoire of actions. We do not believe: 1. That we dictate who the friends of our friends should be. 2. That we need to always agree on a course of action. 3. That a request to help is automatic and without due thought to the cause of the request. 4. That politics should determine if a request for help should be approved. 5. That the friends of friend's actions are legitimate reason to approve military support. 6. That the cancellation of a friendship or treaty is required or desired just because we find ourselves on opposite sides of a particular conflict. 7. That information that pertains to another alliance should be withheld or used to advantage. 8. That spying is justified other than in its simple war mode in game mechanics. 9. That a group of 5 or more people with the same Alliance Affiliation and true desire to be seen as an alliance are any less an alliance than any other alliance. When in doubt ask. 10. That PZI or EZI is justified. 11. That rogue attacks are anything more than the act of the uncreative and cowardly. 12. That OOC attacks or spread of OOC information can ever be justified or acceptable. 13. That racist, sexist, rude, salacious or personal attacks are ever justifiable. 14. That any comment or conversation not in a private area should be offered without being tempered with respect for the potential feelings of those who may not be as tough skinned as we are. 15. That something should be done because it can be done. 16. That we have the only way to do things right. This Covenant provides for a new form of agreement. It is a statement of principle. It is not a bloc. It has no cancellation notice. Violation of the terms removes a signatory. Voluntary withdrawal removes a signatory. Since the Order of the Black Rose and the Rosular Kingdom is the author there is no way for us to defer from the terms of the Covenant. There is for us no wiggle room. What is a defensive war? 1. An attack (spying or military) on a signatory alliance that has not declared an attack (war) that requests defensive assistance. What is an aggressive war? 1. Everything else. On behalf of The Apparatus: Randalla, Patroness King Ernie, Director King Nai, Emissary DevilDog, General Elbryan, Chief Engineer Phaedron, Professor Maximillian Thorton, Propagandist Big Kif, Speaker of the Assembly For The Order of The Black Rose Queen AterAtra, Sir Winslow Knight Protector The Knights Council Respectfully Dame Hime Themis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodFury Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 What is this? We need a tl;dr. I don't even get this, and I did read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr William Westcher Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 [quote name='BloodFury' timestamp='1332543852' post='2942359'] What is this? We need a tl;dr. I don't even get this, and I did read it. [/quote] .... --- I congratulate you both. You have broken the constant cycles of BLOC entrances and exits by created a bond that isn't about words but about actions. I applaud your simplicity, just because something is put contritely doesn't mean that it is less effective. In fact, I believe that this covenant is the best written agreement I have seen in all of my long 75 days Best wishes to both alliances, may you prosper and avoid the damnable discrepancies of fools. -DrWill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omniscient1 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Cool glad to see this. Apparatus are cool peeps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximillian Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 A treaty of complete friendship and true bond. We are proud to stand along the people of the Rosular Kingdom. To us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atanatar Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Congratulations. OBR and Apparatus are good people to have around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwyn Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Congratulations to our friends in both places. May your bond only deepen throughout all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phineas Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Some nice and some lofty principles there and a few could be quite fun to debate in another venue. I especially liked this (and it's not one of those I see open to debate): [i]6. That the cancellation of a friendship or treaty is required or desired just because we find ourselves on opposite sides of a particular conflict.[/i] That alone reminds me why alliances like these two are such rare but beautiful birds. Congrats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hormones74 Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Congrats to 2 great groups of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Brandon Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Way to be terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phineas Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='King Brandon' timestamp='1332553959' post='2942435'] Way to be terrible. [/quote] Way to perpetuate the stereotype that your kind of beauty is just skin deep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Nukem Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='King Brandon' timestamp='1332553959' post='2942435'] Way to be terrible. [/quote] How is this terrible? Please elaborate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randalla Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Clearly this is indeed terrible. Terribly awesome. We're very pleased to finally be able to take the next step in what feels like an ancient friendship. Cheers, friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorponok Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 A solid friendship and a truly solid bond. Best of luck to the both of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Wally Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Two great alliances getting closer together... I can hail this o/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlinus Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Huzzah to two incredible allainces, our protector, and our friends! This means much, and is a welcome addition to the noble cause. Huzzah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marine Sniper Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [font="Georgia"]Having ties to both alliances makes me proud that they have taken the next step /OBR /Apparatus[/font] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardus Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='Dr William Westcher' timestamp='1332544102' post='2942364'] .... --- I congratulate you both. You have broken the constant cycles of BLOC entrances and exits by created a bond that isn't about words but about actions. I applaud your simplicity, just because something is put contritely doesn't mean that it is less effective. In fact, I believe that this covenant is the best written agreement I have seen in all of my long 75 days Best wishes to both alliances, may you prosper and avoid the damnable discrepancies of fools. -DrWill [/quote] Neither signatory has ever joined a bloc, nor will it end the role of blocs throughout CN, and to say anything pertaining to OBR "isn't about words" is silly. That said, congratulations to both alliances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr William Westcher Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='Ardus' timestamp='1332595935' post='2942588'] Neither signatory has ever joined a bloc, nor will it end the role of blocs throughout CN, and to say anything pertaining to OBR "isn't about words" is silly. That said, congratulations to both alliances. [/quote] I wasn't saying THEY consistently enter and exit BLOCS, just that everyone else does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarmatian Empire Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='Ardus' timestamp='1332595935' post='2942588'] Neither signatory has ever joined a bloc, nor will it end the role of blocs throughout CN, and to say anything pertaining to OBR "isn't about words" is silly. That said, congratulations to both alliances. [/quote] Apparatus is in the kitten bloc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardus Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='Sarmatian Empire' timestamp='1332605823' post='2942627'] Apparatus is in the kitten bloc [/quote] I'm sorry, but I don't pay attention to blocs that are only known to readers of Cat Fancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Congratulations to you both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Frontier Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='Dr William Westcher' timestamp='1332596086' post='2942589'] I wasn't saying THEY consistently enter and exit BLOCS, just that everyone else does. [/quote] Why are you capitalizing that? What do you think BLOCS stands for? As far as the "constant cycle" goes, no meaningful bloc has been created recently that I can think of, and people actually leave blocs fairly rarely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr William Westcher Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='New Frontier' timestamp='1332611318' post='2942655'] Why are you capitalizing that? What do you think BLOCS stands for? As far as the "constant cycle" goes, no meaningful bloc has been created recently that I can think of, and people actually leave blocs fairly rarely. [/quote] Are you being argumentative because you think it makes you look smart? Sheesh. I think it stands for !@#$%^&* Leaves Open Cracks Standard. Is that not right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Frontier Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='Dr William Westcher' timestamp='1332611854' post='2942659'] Are you being argumentative because you think it makes you look smart? Sheesh. I think it stands for !@#$%^&* Leaves Open Cracks Standard. Is that not right? [/quote] I'm being "argumentative" because this is a forum for dialogue, and I happen to think your perspective is silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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