Sardonic Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1329951144' post='2925792'] No really, Sardonic, how exactly can they look good? Natan flips !@#$ over a twitter thing he deleted 30 seconds after it went out. He decides to go full throttle on me, despite knowing I wasn't going to take it. [/quote] Yeah, not seeing how umb has betrayed anyone, nor how they follow anybody around. The Umb/MK relationship is a complicated one, to be sure, but it is not one of servitude. You, of all people, should know that. Edited February 22, 2012 by Sardonic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted February 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Haha. What? The only thing they didn't do that MK wanted was to not hit Fark. They stopped some reps from being imposed on MHA, but I kind of gave you the story on how they treated MHA up until that point already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonewall Jaxon Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 [quote name='Leet Guy' timestamp='1329951302' post='2925799'] Seriously it's blindly obtuse comments like yours which is why it's etched in Roq's mind to talk down to people like you Jaxon. [/quote] Very well, I won't aggrandize Roq as a moral hero of CN like some of the Voxians were, and maybe the reasons behind his defection are blurry to me, but he's still defecting from a group whose actions and methods of operation (from an IC stance, naturally) I have opposed for a while, and that's why I support him. Thus, even if his hands are just as dirty as the rest of DoomHouse's, attacking him doesn't change any of the points about DH's past that his defection brings to light. Is my more blunt answer more acceptable to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsoxbronco1 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) Remember that part where MK hit Sparta as hard as we could? Oh you don't? I wonder why that didn't happen...we do run DH and all...oh that's right you're just !@#$ting in your hand and throwing it at the wall to see what sticks. Edited February 22, 2012 by rsoxbronco1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Apocalypse Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1329951728' post='2925807'] Haha. What? The only thing they didn't do that MK wanted was to not hit Fark. They stopped some reps from being imposed on MHA, but I kind of gave you the story on how they treated MHA up until that point already. [/quote] And what did you do exactly? I mean, apart from running away with your tail between your legs when things got too hot. (OOC: Yes I know why you really left, I'm roleplaying) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshuaR Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 No Umbrellian (Yes it's Umbrellian > Umbrellan. We voted, damn it.) below the rank of domisi is to post in this thread. Also, as an aside to you Roq. You're probably bashing your closest ally in Umbrella when you get mad at Natan for being mad at you for abusing twitter privileges. Carry on, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1329951728' post='2925807'] Haha. What? The only thing they didn't do that MK wanted was to not hit Fark. They stopped some reps from being imposed on MHA, but I kind of gave you the story on how they treated MHA up until that point already. [/quote] I don't believe you are taking into account that what Umbrella wanted to do and what MK wanted to do were very similar. And that was certainly a two-way street with MHA, if Umb in fact did help prevent MHA getting reps, then it was a hell of a lot more than MHA deserved from that relationship given the actions of the prior several months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaghul Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Just to make sure that I have this right: Using access that you weren't supposed to have (hold over from when you were leader of Umbrella), you tried to instruct Umbrella nations to aid Sparta nations without Umbrella's consent. In other words: abusing your former access to steal aid. And you wonder why people aren't OK with this and portray yourself as the victim? Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Apocalypse Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 [quote name='JoshuaR' timestamp='1329952494' post='2925820'] No Umbrellan below the rank of domisi is to post in this thread. [/quote] I was going to post the exact same thing earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voytek Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 [quote name='Azaghul' timestamp='1329952545' post='2925823'] Just to make sure that I have this right: Using access that you weren't supposed to have (hold over from when you were leader of Umbrella), you tried to instruct Umbrella nations to aid Sparta nations without Umbrella's consent. In other words: abusing your former access to steal aid. And you wonder why people aren't OK with this and portray yourself as the victim? Wow. [/quote] well he was really very frustrated you see so really people are just trying to heinously take advantage of his fragile state again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted February 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) Hm, impact it had: zero. I already pointed out the inherent hypocrisy of your position. goldie: given Umbrella had been planning to screw MHA for a while, I don't agree. Edited February 22, 2012 by Roquentin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrux Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 So if posting on twitter wasnt a big deal to you, why worry about reaching out and asking others to run damage control for you after? News Flash, there are times in life where you are wrong. Also I think doornail misses you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted February 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 I wasn't really worried. Luckily, I'm not wrong in this instance and there's no way to spin it as you being right. Doornail was a quality member. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan reyes Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1329951407' post='2925800'] That was more to preempt Umbrella, since they're pretty worthless. [/quote] ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted February 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 I said generally, like I said, decent members should leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrux Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1329956201' post='2925889'] I wasn't really worried. Luckily, I'm not wrong in this instance and there's no way to spin it as you being right. Doornail was a quality member. [/quote] You act like there is something to spin for you to be wrong, that's the amazing thing about all of this. Also if you get bored please rate the umbrella members you were around in a 5 star rating. 1 bad 5 great. this should entertain us for a few minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raken Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='acrux' timestamp='1329956491' post='2925896'] You act like there is something to spin for you to be wrong, that's the amazing thing about all of this. Also if you get bored please rate the umbrella members you were around in a 5 star rating. 1 bad 5 great. this should entertain us for a few minutes. [/quote] Raken being a 1, Kiado and Doornail being a 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYIyTh Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='Raken' timestamp='1329958573' post='2925913'] Raken being a 1, Kiado and Doornail being a 5. [/quote] That's bold, giving yourself one star. I think that might be one too many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raken Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1329958738' post='2925916'] That's bold, giving yourself one star. I think that might be one too many. [/quote] I was hoping Roq would give me 1 for having a few slots filled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYIyTh Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='Raken' timestamp='1329958834' post='2925918'] I was hoping Roq would give me 1 for having a few slots filled. [/quote] Fair enough. We'll just have to see I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYIyTh Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Sardonic' timestamp='1329951493' post='2925803'] Yeah, not seeing how umb has betrayed anyone, nor how [b]they follow anybody around.[/b] The Umb/MK relationship is a complicated one, to be sure,[i] but it is not one of servitude.[/i] You, of all people, should know that. [/quote] This is a debate for another time, but yeah... "Instead of letting our allies take an extra attacker or two we just decided not to defend them at all and wag our finger at having even for more alliances attack when there were 0 slots available for any oncomers to take." "Instead of defending our allies in a pre-emptive curbstomp we decided to hit their MDoAP partners. But we made sure they didn't have to pay reps!" "Instead of standing up for flesh and blood and against appalling action/behavior, you should just take it. You're being too thin skinned for our liking, :dealwithit:." This must be some strange use of quite a few words I had not been previously aware of. Edited February 23, 2012 by IYIyTh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted February 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Myth even said he was fine with MHA taking a short-term hit, but Umbrella would have to promise something in return for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardonic Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1329959432' post='2925932'] This is a debate for another time, but yeah... "Instead of letting our allies take an extra attacker or two we just decided not to defend them at all and wag our finger at having even for more alliances attack when there were 0 slots available for any oncomers to take." "Instead of defending our allies in a pre-emptive curbstomp we decided to hit their MDoAP partners. But we made sure they didn't have to pay reps!" "Instead of standing up for flesh and blood and against appalling action/behavior, you should just take it. You're being too thin skinned for our liking, :dealwithit:." This must be some strange use of quite a few words I had not been previously aware of. [/quote] Counterpoint: You directly leaked confidential material which was not meant to be shared. You should be happy you got as much political assistance as you did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted February 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) Ugh, that's such BS. How many times have you and others in PB c/ped convos? Basically, people were desperate for something to nail MHA on. That's what happened. Edited February 23, 2012 by Roquentin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardonic Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1329973097' post='2926255'] Ugh, that's such BS. How many times have you and others in PB c/ped convos? Basically, people were desperate for something to nail MHA on. That's what happened. [/quote] Not really, nobody cared one way or another about MHA until that incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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