magicninja Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) So we all know RIA and FARK are the ones everyone is waiting for to come into the battle.... Why do you think they are stalling? Do you think they will come in at all? Edited December 2, 2011 by magicninja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCToker Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Misr called, he wants his soul back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Whimsical Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Because they were waiting for you to make a poll about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornelius Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 None of the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Joe Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 RIA is hitting Polar next update, how did you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShouAS Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Just to piss you off, and both will come in on both sides and stay out as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleRena Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 [quote name='Emperor Whimsical' timestamp='1322805896' post='2859104'] Because they were waiting for you to make a poll about it. [/quote] Well now the polls made, I can't wait for the declaration of war! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Wally Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Operation "Just to piss you off" is going very well it seams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banksy Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Because they know they'll get slaughtered if they enter. I'd do the same if I was in their position. At some point they will have to make a stand though, or else we'll know we can just attack alliances with no cause in the future and there will be no retribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letum Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Poll doesn't really cover all possible options. There are always courses related with making sure all PM nations can come out at the same time, lobbying a large enough coalition, or trying to force the treaty chains in their favour. And then, there's irrational reasons, like believing Polar stands a chance of winning, or Polaris deciding that only half of its allies should burn and wanting SF to stay out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicninja Posted December 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 [quote name='Letum' timestamp='1322806401' post='2859123'] Poll doesn't really cover all possible options. There are always courses related with making sure all PM nations can come out at the same time, lobbying a large enough coalition, or trying to force the treaty chains in their favour. And then, there's irrational reasons, like believing Polar stands a chance of winning, or Polaris deciding that only half of its allies should burn and wanting SF to stay out. [/quote] This is true enough. Who knows if the real reason is up there. I figured I'd cover the more popular reasons people have on their minds. Though I forgot the ever popular pressure from allies to stay out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feanor Noldorin Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 RIA and Farkistan agree with TOP/IRON that the war is justified. By their silence I also take it that they will approve of the very large amount of reps that their ally will be forced to pay (if terms are given at all). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoADarthCyfe6 Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Backroom Politics between Polar - SF - XX. Unless Polar requested their assistance that I was unaware of? If not, then this is the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYIyTh Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 don't we have enough of these already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucemania Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Maybe it is the only way for attention to help their ADD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janosik Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 I'm fairly sure Polar is waiting to befriend TOP and then backstab us again. It worked once before after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthey Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) You need to add a poll. "Will polar join TOP's side [i]after[/i] RIA and FARK enter?" Edited December 2, 2011 by iamthey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanth Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 [quote name='King Wally' timestamp='1322806151' post='2859112'] Operation "Just to piss you off" is going very well it seams [/quote] [img]http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x448/jspex1/hh.png[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerdge Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Of course I have no idea, and I am not sure that I care. If I had to struggle to find a reason I'd say that they're not going to get better odds by entering and they know it. The only material result would be to take bigger collective damages, thus why bother? They can better help their allies rebuild if they haven't been destroyed themselves. People think that in case of global conflict "Polar side" will be defeated by "TOP's side" of the web. The political situation would then arguably evolve towards a new rivalry among the victors of this war. As of now, of the next to become/remain the dominant side, only PF/DR is involved thus they're the only ones taking damage. If this stall goes on long enough this might become a problem for "TOP and friends" (currently engaged) as they risk to become irrelevant (or, worse, an easy target) after the war. They can solve this problem by bringing even more weight to the fight, although that might cause a PR damage and even somewhat put at risk the support of some of their current allies/proxies. In other words, "Polar and friends" seem pretty much hopeless and they have little to lose, whereas "TOP and friends" have a reason to not continue to be the only ones to fight, thus the stall might cause a division among "TOP's side" of the web. This of course works for "Polar side". DH/PB and MJ might be the ones that most benefit from this war remaining for "long" confined to the current fighters. Tech became the dominant factor of CN military power and it is time-constrained, thus time is one of the really scarce/precious resources of our environment. No one aspiring to greatness can afford to lose much time in war while their rivals continue to grow in peace. This stall isn't working against Polar side only. This scenario might change when Polar and friends run out of nukes, but we also have to keep in mind that Polar mentality/culture/community will hardly be weakened by fighting an uphill war - in fact they're probably welcoming their new scars (no irony intended). This situation isn't simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Nakara Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Who cares, I just love seeing all the !@#$%*ing and crying because they aren't. It's great to watch folks cry about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterChief Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 I'm saving up my nukes right quick, then I shall make it rain doomz! I haven't been involved with my alliances political activity so I can't say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Flinders Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 [quote name='Banksy' timestamp='1322806229' post='2859119'] At some point they will have to make a stand though, or else we'll know we can just attack alliances with no cause in the future and there will be no retribution. [/quote] This is something I've been thinking about and I don't think enough people are saying. The way to maintain and sustain yourself as a world power, hell any kind of power at all, isn't to shy away from the hard battles and decisions when they come. You have to man up eventually and putting it off oftentimes only makes it harder in the end. Not to mention, before you even get to that end, you're going to have a hell of a time getting anyone to take you seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicninja Posted December 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Hitting NPO..... I guess it was not an option I considered......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrison Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 not my fault if i was only told as late Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaoshawk Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 I voted unorganized and that both FARK and RIA will not enter the war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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