Tygaland Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1320456804' post='2839150'] Lol, I tow the party line? Please. Do they not have cookies from where you're from? [/quote] I'd say you toe the line but I'm not familiar with who does what manual labour in your neck of the woods. You came blundering into this discussion avoiding the quite clear, factual and logical explantions for why people are not buying this as it was advertised and label everyone who isn't buying as "retarded". Now, you are either grossly ignorant or you are a shameless arsekisser. I lean towards the latter but it could be both, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illusion Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='Quiziotle' timestamp='1320456858' post='2839154'] No, it doesn't. [/quote] Yes, it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o-dog Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='Rafael Nadal' timestamp='1320456195' post='2839130']As I've said though, I personally don't care. As long as this stirs things up...[/quote] Hopefully, it won't. The world will just see your stupid stunt for what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrash Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='Drai' timestamp='1320449428' post='2838955'] A first for? [/quote] Agreeing with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janax Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='LeonidasRexII' timestamp='1320456104' post='2839124'] I'm frankly surprised they're getting any support beyond their puppets in GOONs. After all if MKVE is going to apply their Fairness Doctrine to us everyone is fair game. So make sure to wrap your wars up in a month or less even if you have the clear advantage and the other side won't accept peace. Or else MKVE will come a callin! [/quote] Who had page 12 (for those who use max posts per page, as Admin intended) for the first "if you let it happen to us, you are next!!!111oneoneeleven!" post? Winner is page 12. If I was incompetent enough to not be able to end my own war, I guess I'd require peace keeper intervention as well. Then again, I couldn't care less about alliances "admitting defeat". Others get hung up on that, but when I look and see the state of our opponents, I know it's not even needed. People know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygaland Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='Quiziotle' timestamp='1320456829' post='2839152'] You're the one making baseless, unrealistic, and frankly dumb assumptions about the intent of our announcement. But if it's your wish to continue doing so, I'm not going to impede you any further. [/quote] On the contrary, I have provided a logical reason for what I believe to be happening based on observed facts and information. If your goal was as you claim then this is not how you'd go about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeros Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 (edited) Well this discussion degenerated into a NO U session really fast Can we just dispense with the BS and get to the part where we kill people? Edited November 5, 2011 by Aeros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Sykes Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='Flonker' timestamp='1320455094' post='2839094'] I'm pretty sure the fix is in -- NSO won't surrender or white peace. They've got nothing to lose and everything to gain by just taking the weekend off. [/quote] You do seem to forgetting that NSO not surrendering, and them being hit, would likely result in their allies being rolled too. To say they have nothing to lose, is a little off base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonator21 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='Rush Sykes' timestamp='1320457204' post='2839165'] You do seem to forgetting that NSO not surrendering, and them being hit, would likely result in their allies being rolled too. To say they have nothing to lose, is a little off base. [/quote] Unless they tell them to stay out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygaland Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Rush Sykes' timestamp='1320457204' post='2839165'] You do seem to forgetting that NSO not surrendering, and them being hit, would likely result in their allies being rolled too. To say they have nothing to lose, is a little off base. [/quote] Why would their allies get involved if MK/VE is doing the job of rolling Legion for the NSO and NSO is taking little to no damage from MK/VE's attacks? If NSO's allies and NSO itself considered the situation they'd be mad to intervene. Edited November 5, 2011 by Tygaland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omniscient1 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Tygaland' timestamp='1320457004' post='2839156'] I'd say you toe the line but I'm not familiar with who does what manual labour in your neck of the woods. You came blundering into this discussion avoiding the quite clear, factual and logical explantions for why people are not buying this as it was advertised and label everyone who isn't buying as "retarded". Now, you are either grossly ignorant or you are a shameless arsekisser. I lean towards the latter but it could be both, I suppose. [/quote] All I see are accusations that MK and VE are trying to help out NSO. The only way I can see that even being a problem is if NSO throws out something extremely crazy that Legion rejects and both get hit. I personally believe VE and MK are much more smarter than that. If they aren't then that's fine call them out all you want, and I'll join in with you. Otherwise, all of you guys are retarded for opposing this. Edited November 5, 2011 by Omniscient1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoppistan Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Please, MK, don't betray Drai! Ha ha, ah... I kill me sometimes. Welp, I'm done with my wars for the day. Somebody wake me when something actually happens. This posturing is stale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illusion Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 There isn't anything in NSO to roll, and MK/VE know this. The Legion clearly defeated NSO and Tetris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omniscient1 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='illusion' timestamp='1320457468' post='2839171'] There isn't anything in NSO to roll, and MK/VE know this. The Legion clearly defeated NSO and Tetris. [/quote] If this is an obvious truth than why not just end the war? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o-dog Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1320457430' post='2839168'] The only way I can see that even being a problem is if NSO throws out something extremely crazy that Legion rejects and both get hit.[/quote] Why have NSO got any reason to do anything other than throw out something crazy, or do nothing at all? The only possible reason is if their allies beg them to back down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygaland Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1320457430' post='2839168'] All I see are accusations that MK and VE are trying to help out NSO. The only way I can see that even being a problem is if NSO throws out something extremely crazy that Legion rejects and both get hit. I personally believe VE and MK are much more smarter than that. If they aren't then that's fine call them out all you want, and I'll join in with you. Otherwise, all of you guys are retarded for opposing this. [/quote] As has been pointed out using facts, logic and evidence, this plan does help out NSO. There is no way you can deny this other than delusion. Legion have a perfectly acceptable peace offer on the table and have had for some time. NSO has, up until now, rejected it. I cannot see this plan changing their minds as they have little to nothing to lose and Legion has a whole lot to lose. How exactly is that not putting NSO in the box seat with regards to peace negotiations? All they have to do is sit tight and wait for Legion to give them waht they want or get smashed by VE/MK. NSO lose as close to nothing as you can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonidasRexII Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1320457556' post='2839172'] If this is an obvious truth than why not just end the war? [/quote] It takes two to tango so go ask that of NSO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOSEPHIVS MAGNVS Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Enough being around the contents of this sewer of a thread...I'll go now but I will ask one last time and leave it for a MK/VE member to answer: How is this war any of your business? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flonker Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='Rush Sykes' timestamp='1320457204' post='2839165'] You do seem to forgetting that NSO not surrendering, and them being hit, would likely result in their allies being rolled too. To say they have nothing to lose, is a little off base. [/quote] NSO has a grand total of 20 open defensive war slots above 1.5K ns. Not a whole lot to hit there. Tetris is 70% PM, not much to hit there either. All this is gonna do is fill Legion defensive war slots to roll Legion. MK & VE know this, and they also know how to do simple math. Nobody gave us odds of lasting a week. It's been over a month now & we're [b]far[/b] from beaten, so now MK & VE decide to do for NSO what they can't do for themselves - pull off an NSO 'victory' because a Legion victory is just too much to swallow after baiting us for a year & more about being 'WAE'. It doesn't look good to your friends when 'the WAE' not only outlasted you but took you to school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illusion Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1320457556' post='2839172'] If this is an obvious truth than why not just end the war? [/quote] Ask NSO. Whats the point of going to war if your going to just win it and let somebody dictate when it should end. Edited November 5, 2011 by illusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoddessOfLinn Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1320457430' post='2839168'] All I see are accusations that MK and VE are trying to help out NSO. The only way I can see that even being a problem is if NSO throws out something extremely crazy that Legion rejects and both get hit. I personally believe VE and MK are much more smarter than that. If they aren't then that's fine call them out all you want, and I'll join in with you. Otherwise, all of you guys are retarded for opposing this. [/quote] Because VE and MK say that no matter the reason for not reaching peace both NSO (that really cant be damaged much more) and Legion (that can be damage quite a lot) will beattacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omniscient1 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 [quote name='Tygaland' timestamp='1320457668' post='2839174'] As has been pointed out using facts, logic and evidence, this plan does help out NSO. There is no way you can deny this other than delusion. Legion have a perfectly acceptable peace offer on the table and have had for some time. NSO has, up until now, rejected it. I cannot see this plan changing their minds as they have little to nothing to lose and Legion has a whole lot to lose.[/quote] Ok then they get rolled. [quote] How exactly is that not putting NSO in the box seat with regards to peace negotiations? All they have to do is sit tight and wait for Legion to give them waht they want or get smashed by VE/MK. NSO lose as close to nothing as you can get. [/quote] Like I said before, I don't think Impero and Tehguy (two very smart people) were dumb enough not to see that coming. If NSO purposely stalls peace negotiations they get rolled. If Legion is doing their best to settle on peace then they get left alone. Now speaking of logic.... MK and VE think ahead before all their moves. MK and VE has made a move. therefore, logically MK and VE thought ahead before this move. It's logic, Tyga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wu Tang Clan Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 So quit whining and end it. They just made it their business. Deal with it, or don't. Ball is in your court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYIyTh Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Wu Tang Clan' timestamp='1320458071' post='2839182'] So quit whining and end it. They just made it their business. Deal with it, or don't. Ball is in your court. [/quote] Actually, it seems it's in your allies court. Has been for quite some time, according to all reports. Edit: Apostrophe Edited November 5, 2011 by IYIyTh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o-dog Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1320458029' post='2839180'] If NSO purposely stalls peace negotiations they get rolled. If Legion is doing their best to settle on peace then they get left alone. [/quote] Nope. If peace isn't reached, both get rolled, regardless. Edited November 5, 2011 by O-Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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