A Joint TLR-GATO Announcement

[Seerow]

[quote name='T.Hubb' timestamp='1317877771' post='2818011']
Every single alliance out there who says "lolegion" (or comes up with some other witty catchphrase that keeps you warm at night) are full of crap. It's funny how you guys go from "oh wait, Legion won't do anything" to "Oh God, get all our allies on Legion now!" I also find it amusing that pretty much every one of you have condoned spying. The level of butthurt you would all feel at this would reach the heavens, I'm sure, and you would've done the same thing.

If you want one of our allies so bad, knuckle up and call them out. However, you won't. You'll sit and e-lawyer until you find a way to reach your goals. Cowards.

The Legion will still be here once this is done, regardless. Deal with it.

Now, show me how much you all can hate. I know you can.
[/quote]

So you declare war, then insist it was all a ploy to get somebody else.

This is almost as silly as the anti-GOD conspiracy theory that was on CNtel recently.

[Comrade Craig]

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1317877461' post='2817992']
So if I open up a thread full of TLR's internal screenshots you don't consider that an act of war?
[/quote]

[url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=98766&view=findpost&p=2636663]You tell me.[/url]

-Craig

[neneko]

[quote name='T.Hubb' timestamp='1317877771' post='2818011']
Every single alliance out there who says "lolegion" (or comes up with some other witty catchphrase that keeps you warm at night) are full of crap. It's funny how you guys go from "oh wait, Legion won't do anything" to "Oh God, get all our allies on Legion now!" I also find it amusing that pretty much every one of you have condoned spying. The level of butthurt you would all feel at this would reach the heavens, I'm sure, and you would've done the same thing.

If you want one of our allies so bad, knuckle up and call them out. However, you won't. You'll sit and e-lawyer until you find a way to reach your goals. Cowards.

The Legion will still be here once this is done, regardless. Deal with it.

Now, show me how much you all can hate. I know you can.
[/quote]
Were you somehow under the illusion that you wouldn't be countered if you attacked someone because you're a terrible alliance?

Pretty sure that's not how things work around here.

[Omniscient1]

[quote name='Seerow' timestamp='1317877977' post='2818018']
So you declare war, then insist it was all a ploy to get somebody else.

This is almost as silly as the anti-GOD conspiracy theory that was on CNtel recently.
[/quote]

Shhh don't let Sir William here you. You'll be next.

[Schattenmann]

[quote name='Dre4mwe4ver' timestamp='1317877766' post='2818009']
I see you failed to ask a question that contains facts rather than self-delusions.

Hi, long time listener, first time caller, how did I do? Be honest
[/quote]
Oh, is it not a fact that the last time GATO attempted to help their allies they lasted 10 days then left those allies on the field of battle for weeks more? No, no, I was right, they did. So, I ask again, is this another 10-day special or what?

Edited October 6, 2011 by Schattenmann

[magicninja]

[quote name='T.Hubb' timestamp='1317877771' post='2818011']
Every single alliance out there who says "lolegion" (or comes up with some other witty catchphrase that keeps you warm at night) are full of crap. It's funny how you guys go from "oh wait, Legion won't do anything" to "Oh God, get all our allies on Legion now!" I also find it amusing that pretty much every one of you have condoned spying. The level of butthurt you would all feel at this would reach the heavens, I'm sure, and you would've done the same thing.

If you want one of our allies so bad, knuckle up and call them out. However, you won't. You'll sit and e-lawyer until you find a way to reach your goals. Cowards.

The Legion will still be here once this is done, regardless. Deal with it.

Now, show me how much you all can hate. I know you can.
[/quote]

well first we would have asked for the source.

If they refused we would have asked for Hereno and give him a single ZI.

If not yeah we would have rolled on Tetris too but that doesn't mean I wouldn't expect their allies to do the same thing here. Just backing our pals. All reasons and !@#$ aside that's all we're in it for. If we were in it for !@#$@#$ with you or your allies more than this, we would have just rolled guns blazing..or at least aided everyone and not just IAA.

[Rush Sykes]

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1317877461' post='2817992']
So if I open up a thread full of TLR's internal screenshots you don't consider that an act of war?
[/quote]

An act of war? No. An act worthy of a response of war? Yes. Not every war has to be precipitated by an act of war. Sometimes its over territory. Sometimes religious beliefs. Sometimes spying(this is not an act of war, spying happens ever day, spies are caught every day, wars are not every day).

Also, find a TLR source. Post them. I promise you will hear from us. This is about the validity of Legions CB. No war ever is. The fact is Legion declared war on Tetris. At that moment, Nso became a defender. Nobody else's interpretation of that can be forced on them. Its the position they are acting from. As such, defense clauses are defense clauses.

Edited October 6, 2011 by Rush Sykes

[Wyrmon]

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1317878064' post='2818026']
Oh, is it not a fact that the last time GATO attempted to help their allies they lasted 10 days then left those allies on the field of battle for weeks more? No, no, I was right, they did. So, I ask again, is this another 10-day special or what?
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Do you really think Legion can last that long?

[Jaiar]

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1317878064' post='2818026']
Oh, is it not a fact that the last time GATO attempted to help their allies they lasted 10 days then left those allies on the field of battle for weeks more? No, no, I was right, they did. So, I ask again, is this another 10-day special or what?
[/quote]
Declaration of Support...it could go on forever.

You should declare war on Legion's side. Bring justice to them all.

[Schattenmann]

[quote name='Comrade Craig' timestamp='1317877997' post='2818022']
[url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=98766&view=findpost&p=2636663]You tell me.[/url]

-Craig
[/quote]
Those posts were taken from an embassy--the sovereign territory of SOS Brigade--by the SOS Brigade. Apples and oranges.

[magicninja]

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1317878064' post='2818026']
Oh, is it not a fact that the last time GATO attempted to help their allies they lasted 10 days then left those allies on the field of battle for weeks more? No, no, I was right, they did. So, I ask again, is this another 10-day special or what?
[/quote]

Yes Schatt. Now move along.

[Manis B]

ethics ethics everywhere!

[Schattenmann]

[quote name='Rush Sykes' timestamp='1317878148' post='2818032']
An act of war? No. An act worthy of a response of war? Yes. Not every war has to be precipitated by an act of war. Sometimes its over territory. Sometimes religious beliefs. Sometimes spying(this is not an act of war, spying happens ever day, spies are caught every day, wars are not every day).
[/quote]

Welcome to the Shifting Sands Resort. Population: TLR.

[Deadshot]

Good on my allies and friends

o/

[KainIIIC]

[quote name='Rush Sykes' timestamp='1317877360' post='2817987']
Maybe you can explain to me how NsO offensively attacked. From where I see it, Legion hit Tetris. NsO had a mutual defense treaty, and honored it. Just because Legion attempted to assign their version of aggressive and defensive to the whole world, doesnt mean that is gospel and law and binding to the rest of the world. Defense clauses state that you defend an ally who is attacked, that is what happened. IAA is doing what a protector should do, standing with their protectorate. Legion does not get to determine how everyone else thinks, whether we personally think their war is justified or not (it was), but it certainly wasnt because of an aggressive attack by Tetris.
[/quote]

Schatt sure likes trying to force his interpretation of treaties in these arguments "blah blah, aggressive activities". You also have people like NSO, who view treaties as "You attack them, we defend them with an MDP". Seems like a common way of viewing it to me.

[Mandellav]

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1317878064' post='2818026']
Oh, is it not a fact that the last time GATO attempted to help their allies they lasted 10 days then left those allies on the field of battle for weeks more? No, no, I was right, they did. So, I ask again, is this another 10-day special or what?
[/quote]

They'd only need 10 days to special you .

As for GATO's support of IAA in this conflict, I assure you my CnG brethren will support their allies until the bitter end if need be. It's kind of a CnG thing.

[Taget]

Great announcement from great allies!

[Dre4mwe4ver]

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1317878342' post='2818044']
Welcome to the Shifting Sands Resort. Population: TLR.
[/quote]
Wait... what? Guys... I think we broke him. I was looking forward to chatting, too!

Edited October 6, 2011 by Dre4mwe4ver

[Manis B]

[quote name='Dre4mwe4ver' timestamp='1317878551' post='2818053']
Wait... what? Guys... I think we broke him. I was looking forward to chatting, too!
[/quote]

Welcome to the OWF. Directed by David Lynch

[Comrade Craig]

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1317878342' post='2818044']
Welcome to the Shifting Sands Resort. Population: TLR.
[/quote]

I stay there when I'm in town. It's a nice place. Clean pool. Fully stocked minibar. Hot maids. Adult pay-per-view. Reasonable rates. It's not the Ritz, but you could do a lot worse.

-Craig

[Stefano Palmieri]

Wrong thread, but I support this none the less.

o/The NpO conspiracy.

Edited October 6, 2011 by Stefano Palmieri

[Timeline]

Well taking away my respect for Voodoo, this leaves me with one view, WHY not just have the balls to DoW on NpO ?, we all know this war is nothing more then your side trying to drag NpO in to another war, after the NoCB attack on NPO by DH, what's stopping you from doing the same mindless crap ?

[magicninja]

[quote name='Timeline' timestamp='1317878800' post='2818068']
Well taking away my respect for Voodoo, this leaves me with one view, WHY not just have the balls to DoW on NpO ?, we all know this war is nothing more then your side trying to drag NpO in to another war, after the NoCB attack on NPO by DH, what's stopping you from doing the same mindless crap ?
[/quote]

What? $%&@ NpO...apparently we're in for Invicta.

[Comrade Craig]

[quote name='Timeline' timestamp='1317878800' post='2818068']
Well taking away my respect for Voodoo, this leaves me with one view, WHY not just have the balls to DoW on NpO ?, we all know this war is nothing more then your side trying to drag NpO in to another war, after the NoCB attack on NPO by DH, what's stopping you from doing the same mindless crap ?
[/quote]

You acknowledge that no CB is required, and you acknowledge that everyone knows this, and yet you insist that it's the motive. Does this little logical gap bother you as much as it bothers everyone else?

-Craig

[Mandellav]

[quote name='Comrade Craig' timestamp='1317878623' post='2818058']
I stay there when I'm in town. It's a nice place. Clean pool. Fully stocked minibar. Hot maids. Adult pay-per-view. Reasonable rates. It's not the Ritz, but you could do a lot worse.

-Craig
[/quote]

The 3 Dragon's Hotel, Casino, Brothel, and Capitol residing on the historic, energized, and revived New Vegas Strip should suit your needs much better the next time you're in town, Craig. I am the proprietor and I will show you a glorious time befitting your station. You can drink for free, top shelf.

Oh, and yes, Timeline, this war is nothing more than our side trying to drag NpO into another war. Because our side...started it?

To be honest, I could care less about NpO, I've made my amends with Polaris. I find folks like Dajobo and Mergerberger to be a breath of fresh air and I hope their continued leadership will turn NpO around in more of my friends' eyes.

This DoS is about supporting our ally, IAA. Nothing more.

And what's stopping us from doing the same mindless crap? Perhaps we have...minds?