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Why the @#%# was my vote deleted, do you know who I am?

I don't know if my parents would let me go to something like this...

Don't make me say it...

[quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1320178738' post='2836657'] So those 'Umbrella is worse than the NPO' sigs were secretly true! [/quote] :clap:, my good sir.

[quote name='Brehon' timestamp='1318822130' post='2826775'] Forgive me if I say the CN community stopped showing its strength a long time ago. It together turned its eye away and built the lolzy world we live in. Each of us has played our part and none have ground to stand on to say otherwise. [/quote] The more you say it the more it is true. There will be a snowball effect once one man can take a stand, others will see it as the high road and join us in an effort to kick out this pathetic game style from planet bob.

It was just 11:11 PM. I wished for the disbandment of the Non Grata Alliance. This is a disgusting decliration and you know it. You are picking on those unpopular on the OWF because they are nothing but different simply because they are now defenseless. You are nothing more than a school yard bully projecting your insecurities in an online game, and for what reason? To seem powerful? To seem brave? To look all war hungry and cool so that the cool guys will finally notice you and hang out with you? No one is impressed by hitting someone while they're down, but at least we can finally see NG for what they are, the coward bully that they are. Why didn't you do this while SOS still had MD+ treaties? Too afraid? Pathetic. I can only pray the CN community can show its strength and not tolerate this kind of stupid crap. We owe it to active members of the game who make the place more interesting and we owe it to the integrity of the game. I beg of you all that read this, take a stand. This is not a precedent we can set, then no one is safe.

[quote name='Londo Mollari' timestamp='1318658766' post='2825496'] Umbrella recently gave billions and billions to a certain group of blacks, who immediately squandered all of it on fighting and conflict. Some people you just can't give a hand up. [/quote] It was tier warfare at its finest.

[quote name='Yevgeni Luchenkov' timestamp='1318208151' post='2821813'] I do have fond memories of another time when this game used to be more serious and where people's words mattered, even if it meant trouble. [/quote] Don't fret, your words have been taken very seriously.

you really could have called it something else

[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1316320873' post='2802836'] I was surprised to see Umbrella at the top, until I realized admin changed it so back collecting taxes no longer makes you show up as inactive. [/quote] We've instated a new policy of collecting daily fear us

[quote name='Yevgeni Luchenkov' timestamp='1316121801' post='2801065'] Would be nice if some people would stop making OOC references in an IC thread. [b]Danke.[/b] [/quote] Yeah why don't you take your own advice you [b]punk[/b].

[quote name='Haflinger' timestamp='1315312560' post='2795811'] It's not really the reps, although they are a problem. The real problem is the length of the wars. Fighting a losing war for months on end is ... boring and kinda sad. [/quote] The problem is, with the amount of political capita it costs to start a war, you can't just make it short.

[quote name='James Dahl' timestamp='1315125682' post='2794520'] There's one of them in every alliance. And yes Umbrella that includes you, you stole ours [/quote] Our biggest nation without a WRC isn't even 50k NS and doesn't even have 4k tech. We also don't have any colossally bad warchests.

[quote name='LeonidasRexII' timestamp='1314605952' post='2790432'] Military prowess isn't the only measure of an alliance, because Economics arguably plays an even greater role than militaries in determining an alliances strength. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that all the nations involved were good little boys and girls and purchased their FMs right away. MHA would still hold an advantage there by having 515 aid slots compared to the 275 available to the next four alliances in my example. As far as the low NS nations being the "crap bits", your words not mine, of an alliance I think you're off the mark on that point. A two to one military advantage and the ability to produce 25000 more Tech per month than four other alliances combined is anything but crap. [/quote] Do we look like we have a shortage of incoming tech?

[quote name='Jasmines Jewels' timestamp='1314546973' post='2789975'] It's like we were already doing this for a couple months or something.... A fair amount of our infra has been toward rebuilding smaller nations and some of our banking nations rebuilding to stupid levels that do nothing but add to bills. Timber Also, this is our 'shout out' to Rush, Mandellav, and Voodoo of TLR. Blame Rush accordingly. [/quote] You only have to look a the first page of pacifica to see that most nations have uselessly high amounts of infra, and it gets worse the deeper you go. All I'm saying is maybe even a WRC push isn't that useful at this point, you want a strong hard to take down mid tier, not some weird infra heavy upper tier. WRC's are important but there is no use pushing <3k tech nations towards them.

I don't understand why you insist on trying to build an upper tier. Infra is expensive and will only be easily destroyed in war. You don't have enough tech and thanks to those Karma war terms, you never will, to house a succesfull upper tier. Its the sad truth of the matter. If I were Pacifica I would focus on building as many nukes as possible in the mid tier so that anyone who tries an attack on you again has to face thousands of nukes week in and week out for months. Wearing down a mid tier is something that mass alliances can do very well, but instead you grew five hundred thousand infra in two months, all of which could be undone in less than two weeks. So if I were you, I would try and keep to below 7k infra, and create some kind of program to give the youngins money enough for MPs while still importing tech. ~100 people at 6k infra with ~3k tech would be hard as hell to take down if they had all wonders (mp, sdi, hnms, fafb, etc) while a spread thin army peaking at a bunch of 14k infra 5k tech nations won't do much at all. I guess its to late for this advice to take hold but whatever

Whats the longest gaining sreak/steak without a loss ever?

[quote name='Skylar' timestamp='1313590533' post='2782788'] Thanks, bur it all wears off quickly when you're met with lots of disrespect, sarcasm and all around negativity. [/quote] I remember my first time on the internet.

A feat achieved by few indeed.

[quote name='uaciaut' timestamp='1313311110' post='2780446'] The answer to this is making an identical alliance on the opposite spectrum of the treaty web. The big problem, just like you mentioned, is that fully active alliances generally tend to eat themselves out from the inside UNLESS there's a distinct common enemy that's more easy to hate and that can harvest the collective effort to bring them down. Ideally the other alliance would be just as active and competitive because a few somewhat-intelligent slobs leading a bunch of "sheep" will generally grow apathetic since there's no new/active blood endangering their position and motivating them and will fail eventually. [/quote] Really if everyone is fully 100% government level active then any times should be interesting, even times like these with all the political maneuvering going on. In reality there is always something going on at a high level of governmental politics, its just not seen most of the time. Or maybe real life is the common enemy?

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1313308915' post='2780437'] I agree, however the hammer being just a tool hasn't the capacity to understand that after hit that nail, he will become unnecessary and the hand or will keep him marginalized or even worse, the hand will destroy him because he was occupying space and replace him with a more useful tool, may be a pillow... [/quote] Still better than being the toilet.

[quote name='Aeros' timestamp='1313282877' post='2780143'] I hate to rain on your propaganda art and all, but....its Mjoln*I*r. I know, it probably took you all of 15 minutes, but you might want to fix that [/quote] That's embarrassing.

I have bookmarked this thread so in two years as I adjust the pipe in my mouth and the cap on my head while I ponder on the politics of cybernations I can quickly access this to have a laugh about how people actually, for a second, thought that any treaty wasn't disposable to MK. I will then go back to arguing in the World Politics sub forum and finally prove that the Mushroom Kingdom is indeed as bad as Pacifica was.

Everyone continues to not care. We get it, three years ago you guys did something. Stop talking about and inflating your egos over it at every single moment. How the same people can talk for hours and hours and create walls and walls of text about vox and tell people to stop mentioning politics of old is mind boggling to me. Give it up already.

[quote name='Biff Webster' timestamp='1313133376' post='2778484'] Exactly. If you don't mind being MK's cupbearer, no one else should. [/quote] [b]cupbearer?[/b] this whole time we were holding something else