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As self appointed something of VE, I hereby offer my support for PZI - because if you say the sounds the letters make quickly, it sounds kinda like Pez with an "I" afterwords . I like Pez. That is all. I lied, this is all: [img]http://www.collectingpez.com/auction/images/pezshooter.jpg[/img] [size="1"]edit: smurf PEZ image turned to an ad, so gun pr0n PEZ it is![/size]

[quote name='Fernando12' timestamp='1294057314' post='2561853'] [center][img]http://www.cyberpresse.ca/images/bizphotos/435x290/200902/19/49403.jpg[/img][/center] Have a seat for a second. Look it, I have never seen a bunch of alliances look so !@#$@#$ down when something bad happens. What are you alliances? Like prima donna perfect that if you can't $%&@in' handle adversity? So !@#$'s not going right. It's not $%&@en' working the last two years. !@#$@#$ get your heads out of your ass and !@#$@#$ make it work by outworking this hegemony. You kill two !@#$@#$ blocs (Citadel/C&G), and then we stand around and watch while they !@#$@#$ form Pandora here. !@#$@#$ yous come to the OWF like $%&@in' this and when the power PR play it's not working so you're trying to stick handle, you're looking like this and not standing. Outwork the !@#$@#$ hegemony alliances! If you want it, don't just think you want it. Go out and !@#$@#$ want it. But you're not looking like you want it, you look like you're feeling sorry for yourself. And nobody !@#$@#$ wants anybody that's feeling sorry for themselves. You got time. You're down by one !@#$@#$ shot. Surely to $%&@ we can deal with this. [/quote] I don't even have to ask. This bro is mad.

I see your Sithmas and raise you one Sexmas.

[quote name='Fernando12' timestamp='1293204214' post='2552653'] Poll is stupid to you guys in PB only because you want to shrug off the embarrassment that not one of it's members is actually worth a damn and an outsider is who will be telling you all when and where you can take a dump. Humiliation about how your bloc is perceived is what you should all feel. You all built this bloc to become a power player but the power still lies with the same alliance. Get rid of ties to MK and let's see what PB can actually do, otherwise you all are a bunch of lapdogs. [/quote] I too can state opinion as fact. Impero is actually Archon's multi, which is how he rules the New Hegemony® with an iron fist (which is filled with candy... its kinda like a pinata, but made of iron and fist shaped).[size="1"]**[/size] Also, I would like to introduce you to this thing called reality, where just believing in something doesn't cause it to exist or happen. [size="1"]** If I'm not heard from for a while, its because my MK overlords have "neutralized" me for revealing this information... or I'm dead from the annual black label chug off. 50/50 really. [/size]

to all the haters: I know, I know; you were drooling over the idea of Pandora's Box coming in on the side of NEW/FEAR, and you're mad about it. Query Goldie on IRC and he'll give you a cookie to make you feel better. Alternatively, you can think of it this way: keeping the fight small gives you more time to reconcile many internal conflicts you may be facing, such as: -How to be anti-raiding while supporting a raiding alliance (NEW) -How to hate on GOONS for having bad raiding practices, while supporting an alliance that won't even admit they are in the wrong or pay any sort of reps to their bad-raid victims (NEW) -How to argue NEW is in the right while they one-up \m/ in the "doing things to dead alliances" category. For help reaching a resolution to these inner turmoils, please query Goldie excessively.

Now this is old school... almost feels like '07 again... almost.

[quote name='Dochartaigh' timestamp='1292648459' post='2542335'] and you really have not been paying attention since it was stated earlier that \m/ tried and tried and tried with VE and got nowhere. this is not out of just nowhere and VE has a lot to explain and does not appear to be doing so well at it. i have absolutely no love for \m/ and would love to see them crushed but in this instance VE and Impero are completely in the wrong and nothing you say will make it right.[/quote] I too can discuss past events as if they are still happening. [quote] in fact, all you are saying is, it is okay to bully alliances if they are not well liked. glad to see if you are not well liked by PB; you can be bullied, spied on, and whatever else at will and because you are not well liked, that is a good enough reason for why whatever was done was done.[/quote] You forgot to add that VE is the new NPO and PB is the new Q and that Karma was a lie. Also, if PB just rolled and harass anyone they didn't like there would probably be a lot more war going on right now and we'd all be happier (PB would have a war, the moralist brigade would have something new to obsess over), however that's not the case. PB is pretty much a passive entity and has not as of yet gone into any action; of its own accord or through provocation. After we initiate secret plan Epsilon Beta Iota Lambda and wipe out everyone who doesn't bow down before the blood god, completely unopposed because we've bullied the world into submission ... you can call us the evil empire all you want.

[quote name='The MVP' timestamp='1292284384' post='2538886'] Then you need to think about giving that degree back. Egypt is a liberal state and Lebanon's prime minister is Christian. If you haven't noticed, since you've been to Egypt, alcohol isn't exactly hard to acquire there... [/quote] You're right, Egypt is quite liberal. However don't sit there and claim sharia law isn't a part of their legal system; Qadis there are licensed and operated by the state, not mosques, and islamic jurisprudence is a state declared fact. That being said; secular courts still hold high authority than the Qadis, and the state, while declared muslim, is completely tolerant of other religions. You might notice that I put it under countries with state level sharia in conjunction with other systems, along with Lebanon (which is working to get rid of those ties at both the governmental and cultural level). I liked Egypt, wish I had time to do the tourist thing there and see the pyramids/temples/ruins, and I look forward to doing business there in the future. If you'd like to talk about his more, come and find me. I'm always down to talk about the middle east.

This thread has made me agree with RV. Now I have to go sacrifice puppies to the blood god in order to restore order. You should all be ashamed.

[quote name='oOoMidooOo' timestamp='1291845590' post='2534202'] Lol sorry but your wrong here , All arab countries arent following the proper sharia law in their legal system hardly anything is followed in legal system, its more of a International modern legal system. Saudia arabia is the only islamic country which tries to follow the sharia law in legal system. [/quote] You need to do some more research. Countries with state level implementation of sharia law (i'll limit the list to arab countries): Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, Jordan Countries with state level implementation of sharia law in conjunction with other systems: Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Egypt, UAE --> 2 years of Persian Farsi, currently learning Arabic, have traveled to Syria, Jordan, Egypt, and Israel. I'm a Marketing and EEE major, specializing in developing economies, in particular North Africa and the Middle East.

So what have we accomplished - the people that don't like us **still don't like us** and the people who have good information seem to be chuckling... yeah, seems like about the average day here on planet bob. >>> I have no idea what this is about, but from some of the posts I gather we (VE) didn't unmask someone correctly, and they spied information off our forums and passed it on to someone? Sounds like a clear cut issue to me. If I leave my keys in the ignition and the doors unlocked I might be an idiot, but stealing my car is still illegal.

Hey, lets bring a complicated, emotional, heated topic into CN... that's what really we really need. Seriously though, JAMA has every right to exist - what they don't have (and no alliance does) is the right for their leadership to claim their personal views do not represent those of their alliance, and that's what we're looking at here. That little struggle is further complicated by the OOC issue it is being connected to; the Arab/Israeli conflict. Like it or not that Conflict has major religious tie-ins. On one side you have the Nation of Israel, which isn't quite a theocracy but is most certainly a Jewish state - which is in conflict with the countries that surround it - most of whom have incorporated Islam into their governments to the extent that sharia law comprises at least part of their legal system if not nearly the whole thing. It is not a big stretch to go from Arab Israel, to Islam/Judaisism, even if its not correct. Throw in a little hostile anti-israel speak from a triumvirate, and the assumptions get even weaker. JAMA as an Islamic alliance has nothing wrong with it. JAMA as an Islamic alliance with leaders who subscribe to extremist viewpoints? Yeah... you're getting questionable there.

Welp, congrats everyone - we've hit a new low. Even in '07 when this sort of thing would have been a high drama affair filled with overly RP'd posts and maybe even some genuine intellectual discourse this would not have reached 50+ pages. Shame on all of us.

[quote name='Fernando12' timestamp='1289691866' post='2512327'] Because Karma happened in a matter of days right. Oh yeah, it took 2-3 years to knock NPO from its perch. It's not a dream, it will happen. [/quote] Can we cut this line of BS? Karma was not planned over 3 years. From what I understand you weren't around, but if that's the case i would advise not talking about things you don't know. Heck, if you really look at the situation, NPO & Co. weren't really even in true power until after the fall of the Unjust Path... so early fall '07 -> And Karma happened in what? Late spring '09? So 1.5 years of real hegemony with the WotC/NoCB in the middle to spice things up, and from what I understand from people that were involved in the planning phases of what we now know as "karma" - it was around 6 months of planning before NPO decided to roll OV (clarification would be nice though). Sure, there were alliances that opposed NPO from spring '06 on... but lets drop this line that it took years and years of back room planning working slowly towards a far off date when the stars would align, the heavens would open, and unicorns bearing beer and cocaine would float down to carry us towards righteous victory and the bloody destruction of our enemies. (for those who don't know, that is literally what happened during the Karma war)

[quote name='eyriq' timestamp='1289946892' post='2515165'] 1. Unite White [/quote] Are you implying that one of Tyga's goals should be white supremacy?

[quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1289934652' post='2514879] 1. Impero- Leader of VE, right now PB wears the pants in CN politics, Impero's reputation and the alliance makes him quite powerful. [/quote] Great, now not only will Impero think he's #1 at something, but now he'll think he's powerful. I think the ego-monster just evolved.

[quote name='LegendoftheSkies' timestamp='1289755688' post='2512835'] Yeah, that's really the problem as I see it. There isn't really a cohesive force that could oppose PB right now because it would require too many alliances that hate one another working together. The WCE illustrated that quite well. I think a lot of the AA's that they were looking to gather for that coalition would have loved to take a shot at GOONS, but the problem was that a lot of them hated UPN a good deal more. [/quote] I find it laughable that the side that has been on the defensive side in wars for the last year+ and who pretty much just sits around NOT imposing its will are apparently the bad guys... and the side that has planned and made aggressive moves, launches smear campaigns, and sits in backrooms thinking of ways to fabricate CB's against those they don't like are the white knights of CN. Seriously, just leave us alone and we'll leave you alone. If its drama they want, I'd recommend dropping the Harbinger of Justice act... its much easier to stir up trouble when you play the role of the bad guy in public. Love or hate the Pacificans, they were quite up front about their position of "we will do everything we have to to maintain our security" and you have to at least respect them for that. Same goes for NSO. They do things their way, and are Stubborn with a capital S - but I respect that in them. Maybe some of you "moralists" out there should take some notes, try playing the bad guy for a bit and stop waiting for lightning bolts of heavenly justice to come down and smite your enemies... its just not going to happen.

[quote=wikipedia]Calender From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Not to be confused with Calendar. This article is about the paper process. For the textile finishing process, see Calendering. For order of dervishes, see Qalandar. The calender is a series of hard pressure rollers used to form or smooth a sheet of material. In a principal application, the calender is located at the end of a papermaking process (on-line). Those that are used separate from the process (off-line) are also called supercalenders. The purpose of a calender is to make the paper smooth and glossy for printing and writing.[/quote] I will be sure to mark my paper making implements.

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1289215657' post='2505983'] Just because something is technically true does not make it true. [/quote] [quote] For example, murderers in my country get off all the time due to technicalities, but that doesn't make them innocent does it? Technically innocent, but not innocent. [/quote] I see what you're gunning for, but that's a terrible example... I'm not about to launch into a diatribe about legal systems and court processes... PM me if you want to go into that. I'll throw you a bone here and [i]give you a better example:[/i] [color="#006400"]Team Cinderella Story comes out of nowhere and wins the big tiddly winks tournament despite losing their #1 player to a near-fatal car accident right before the championship game against the Big Mean People Who Usually Win team. However, they are disqualified right after the match because Cute Younger Sibling of #1 Player (who is only on the team due to the blood connection with #1 player) handed in the registration fee an hour late.[/color] Bam. That has everything you could want. Underdog story (don't even try to lie... it must be your favorite or else you wouldn't allways be Fighting The Power™), cute kids, tragic accidents, amd a forced good-vs-evil plot line (is Big Mean People Who Usually Win team really evil? Or are they just a victim of the narrative's frame? tune in tomorrow to find out!) Also, it sounds like the fair nation of Rebel Virginia needs to take a good look at its legal system. [quote]It's the same deal here. If you're relying on minor details and technicalities to get what you want, you probably ain't got such great ground to stand on.[/quote] I'm not getting anything, all I'm doing is pointing out when you agree that white is in fact white, then turn around and start talking about how its actually black, or purple, or red. I know its hard for you to see past my AA, but do try. I agree with you that the whole situation is on the absurd side, and it seems that some missteps were taken on both sides of the field. However, if its truth we're after... how about we go through the sequence of events and see where the errors occurred: Sequence as I gather from this thread: -MK person goes looking to complete a TC for an MK member, finds a Guy -MK gives Guy 3m for the necessary improvements -Guy joins TC -Guy then leaves TC -MK investigates, sees that everything they can find points to Guy being under NSO's protection -NSO thought they were rid of Guy beforehand, but it seems they forgot to do the things that would signal to the outside that they were in fact rid of him -MK doesn't buy NSO's story of "he's really not ours, promise" and want compensation (a little more than I would've asked for in the same situation... but understandable given the back collects) -RV sees Great Injustice™ and makes this thread. Feel free to correct the above, I'm not claiming its 100% accurate, but in fact hoping you can point out the places where the information presented has lead me astray. - - - As for your quest to be the harbinger of truth, I'll leave you with one of my favorite passages on the subject: "In reality, Jarre was afraid. She had, it seemed, peeked through a crack and caught a glimpse of Truth down there in the tunnels with Alfred. Truth wasn't something you went out and found. It was wide and vast and deep and unending, and all you could hope to see was a tiny part of it. And to see that part and to mistake it for the whole was to make of Truth a lie" Take it as you will.

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1289215193' post='2505979'] [color="#0000FF"]I'd expect as much from you. You support your buddies and power partners. All MK proved was that our administrators are not anally retentive, and that on occasion one or two [b][u]ghosts will not be unmasked[/u][/b] simply because they slip through the cracks and we forget they exist. That is what happened here. An administrative oversight. [u][b]So while he may have technically been a member[/b][/u], when you stop and actually think, he wasn't. [u][b]But it's still technically true[/b][/u], and that's good enough for MK to make a quick buck or two and justify it enough for cronies like you (not that they'd need to, but its good for image). You see, I bat around nonsense like this, when fellows like you seem to just want to throw more of it around. So you can keep it up if you'd like, but I'm going to go straight for the truth every single time.[/color] [/quote] Let me get this straight... you're fighting against something you admit was true, in the name of truth? Sounds rational.

<Rebel_Virginia> Yeah, he was a member. He shouldn't have been, but due to oversights he was never demasked or formally removed. If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and acts like a duck... edit: <Rebel_Virginia> Like I said, this is more or less a masked ghost. el oh el.

[quote] [18:50] <@Teddyyo> listen you whore [18:50] <@Teddyyo> you are a newcomer [18:50] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> Shut the $%&@ up [18:50] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> jiggaboo [/quote] Amazing. Truly.

Bahahahahahahaha. Im sorry, but you know nothing about art history.

[quote name='Believland' timestamp='1286225961' post='2474584'] What are you on about? What big calls did VE make? You mean when they flip flop their position every week. I'm a coward because I don't wage a war against VE? Wow. That's hilarious. VE isn't even worth being attacked, and honestly, you never were. You've ridden the wave of your allies, while you failed to make a splash. Your only positive move was the creation of ZIPP which was nothing but a publicity move from every alliance who signed it. As far as insignificant goes, you're one of the ones who's been leading the charge. Even when you guys were in Q, no one ever mentioned VE, or SF for that matter, even in Pandora's Box you're still insignificant to the majority of the people (I honestly don't know why). So when will VE start to play in the big leagues instead of riding the pine. [/quote] This is literally the best thing I have ever read.

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1286145306' post='2473520'] I got so caught up in the quotes that I forgot my real reply. Who do the people claiming that this bloc is going to get rolled presume is going to roll it? Frostbite? Citadel? Unless there's another bloc that is actually a secret being formed, are we saying that the other half of the world is going to get together out of the blue? I can't say how this bloc will act. I can say how the alliances in this bloc act, but the next statement is not a prediction about this bloc. What we can say is that blocs don't get rolled for existing by disparate groups of alliances. Blocs roll disparate alliances, not the other way around. Any rolling you see in a unipolar world will not be of this bloc. [/quote] Welp, it had to happen sooner or later... Schatt made a post that is not only reasonable and logical, but isn't dripping with malice and bias. Keep it up and you might even gain the respect of not just Cole Hamels, but the whole Phillies Roster.