Gh0s7 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Then the easiest method is to not support him, let crap go down, and when it's done, you negotiate with your allies to close it out. You don't threaten your own allies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Gh0s7 said: Then the easiest method is to not support him, let crap go down, and when it's done, you negotiate with your allies to close it out. You don't threaten your own allies. Yes that could be a way to go but I never threatened them. I told Junka to leave them out of it. I didn't ask any one of them not to get involved. And that can be verified. Edited June 13, 2017 by Morphine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galerion Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Morphine said: Yes that could be a way to go but I never threatened them. I told Junka to leave them out of it. I didn't ask any one of them not to get involved. And that can be verified. You wrote in the public part of our discord "Landoffreedom is still an active government member of AM. As such, any attacks on him from outside the ISX AA will be met with military force" . If you were just talking to Junka then it why do that? you then wrote pretty much the same thing in this thread, if you were not making public statements aimed at our allies then you would have conducted yourself via PMs. Edited June 13, 2017 by Galerion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 11 minutes ago, Galerion said: You wrote in the public part of our discord "Landoffreedom is still an active government member of AM. As such, any attacks on him from outside the ISX AA will be met with military force" . If you were just talking to Junka then it why do that? you then wrote pretty much the same thing in this thread, if you were not making public statements aimed at our allies then you would have conducted yourself via PMs. If those were statements aimed at OUR allies why wouldn't I just go to them and say hey guys I need a favor can you remain out of this conflict? But yeah I guess could've been worded better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 The situation is resolved let's learn from it and move forward in progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 11 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said: The situation is resolved let's learn from it and move forward in progress. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Lucis Caelum Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Gh0s7 said: Then the easiest method is to not support him, let crap go down, and when it's done, you negotiate with your allies to close it out. You don't threaten your own allies. Except Junka isn't his ally. If he made any threats toward his allies, I haven't seen them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razgriz24 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 4 hours ago, Immortan Junka said: It's not cowardice to do the smart thing Now I see why some of your friends said to make the peace before they have to read more of your posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonewall14 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Morphine said: Again I didn't necessarily threaten any particular alliance or ally of Junkas. I only told Junka to handle it internally and leave the allies out of it for the specific reason that we are treatied to most of his. My point was you attacked ally of your allies and didn't bother telling any of them?(or did you not say he was still AM govt and acting as such?) and basically threaten the entirety of CN with war if they hit your guy in an unprotected alliance roguing the ally of your allies...not to mention you basically dictated how said allies are allowed to respond...that's my problem with it all and it's a personal problem and my own personal views and not speaking for my alliance or as a govt member there of...also I was not hip to all the agreements on continue of the "raid" and tbh definitely didn't read 5 pages of &#$@ rattling so some of my previous posts were based on false assumptions and for that I do beg your pardon... Edited June 13, 2017 by Stonewall14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrash Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/10/2017 at 4:40 PM, Lord Hitchcock said: That's not how that works. He's a recongnized AM gov member, even after he attacked, it's the same as AM attacking. It doesn't matter where he sits. While I hate to defend SNX, this sums it up. Whatever rains down on AM is their own doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Kay Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 18 hours ago, Thrash said: While I hate to defend SNX, this sums it up. Whatever rains down on AM is their own doing. Any military outcome while dealing with Junka would be him hiding behind his curtains while he asks allies to fight for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Apocalypse Meow is an ally of an ally, so for those wishing ill, a conflict is improbable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Layton Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 6 hours ago, Immortan Junka said: Apocalypse Meow is an ally of an ally, so for those wishing ill, a conflict is improbable. I'm glad this came to a reasonable conclusion. Long live the Imperium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Lucis Caelum Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 On 6/13/2017 at 9:24 PM, Thrash said: While I hate to defend SNX, this sums it up. Whatever rains down on AM is their own doing. Junka seems to have agreed Land of Freedom continues winning against his forces uncountered, so it seems continued war on his members without any counters was SNX's doing as well. Seems like an easy win/win for AM & Land of Freedom here at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Noctis Lucis Caelum said: Junka seems to have agreed Land of Freedom continues winning against his forces uncountered, so it seems continued war on his members without any counters was SNX's doing as well. Seems like an easy win/win for AM & Land of Freedom here at least. No, it's a lose-lose for both alliances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 2 hours ago, Immortan Junka said: No, it's a lose-lose for both alliances. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWilliam Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 SNX is no stranger to meddling in other alliance’s affairs so I’m sure you can forgive me here if I sympathize with them very little over the initial circumstances (and not just because AM are dear friends of Kattegat’s). Course the issue has since been resolved, apparently to the satisfaction of both parties, so I suppose it doesn’t matter one way or the other if I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 On 6/13/2017 at 11:30 AM, Stonewall14 said: My point was you attacked ally of your allies and didn't bother telling any of them?(or did you not say he was still AM govt and acting as such?) and basically threaten the entirety of CN with war if they hit your guy in an unprotected alliance roguing the ally of your allies...not to mention you basically dictated how said allies are allowed to respond...that's my problem with it all and it's a personal problem and my own personal views and not speaking for my alliance or as a govt member there of...also I was not hip to all the agreements on continue of the "raid" and tbh definitely didn't read 5 pages of &#$@ rattling so some of my previous posts were based on false assumptions and for that I do beg your pardon... Remember how I said those other two guys are the two halves of the same sheep getting raped? I think the same applies to this except substitute logic for sheep and rape with being crapped on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 4 hours ago, SirWilliam said: SNX is no stranger to meddling in other alliance’s affairs so I’m sure you can forgive me here if I sympathize with them very little over the initial circumstances Nobody forced you to appoint a goofball senator who didn't take his job seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 23 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said: Nobody forced you to appoint a goofball senator who didn't take his job seriously. Sir William is senator now though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Morphine said: Sir William is senator now though Yeah this was something that happened months ago which is why it's surprising it got brought up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Kanabis Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 2 hours ago, Immortan Junka said: Yeah this was something that happened months ago which is why it's surprising it got brought up. You're the one who brought it up. SW simply stated that "SNX is no stranger to meddling in other alliance's affairs", which tbh, can be a reference to a wide range of incidents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, General Kanabis said: You're the one who brought it up. SW simply stated that "SNX is no stranger to meddling in other alliance's affairs", which tbh, can be a reference to a wide range of incidents. Refers to that incident in specific (senate votes affect the Imperium on brown), we actually do very little meddling in other alliances, ask Animalz. Edited June 15, 2017 by Immortan Junka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWilliam Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, Immortan Junka said: Nobody forced you to appoint a goofball senator who didn't take his job seriously. Knave please, a petulant blowhard such as yourself is not half the man that yolo was at his worst. There's a reason after all that everyone other than Libertarian reprobates absolutely detest your sorry ass. Really though, it's disappointing that elementary logic still alludes you: Kattegat did not then as we do not now owe you a damn thing. If our senator is such a concern of yours then vote for him so that you can have a say in how he operates. Otherwise you can kindly, fully piss off. Edited June 16, 2017 by SirWilliam typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 30 minutes ago, SirWilliam said: reprobates Glad you learned a new word from my sig. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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