watchman Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 iFok math is interesting mutual defense = optional defense Yeah, cancellation is clearly better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link Gaetz Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 iFOK's loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snibbmaster Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 [quote name='Link Gaetz' timestamp='1294716651' post='2571696'] iFOK's loss. [/quote] Errr not really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfEmpty Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 [quote name='snibbmaster' timestamp='1294717543' post='2571714'] Errr not really. [/quote] You lost that round Link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fernando Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 [quote name='HalfEmpty' timestamp='1294720996' post='2571756'] You lost that round Link. [/quote] Both sides lost that one, Link always loses anyway. Halfempty is right FTW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buscemi Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 [i]Buscemi's guide to treaty cancellation thread posting[/i] Are you directly allied to or allied to allies of the OP? [b]If yes[/b], then post "Good move [OP's alliance]. o7 [OP's alliance]" [b]If you answered no[/b], then you must be directly allied to or allied to allies of [alliance cancelled on]. Post, "[alliance cancelled on] is better off with you [OP's alliance]." You can also spice things up by adding, "[OP's alliance] won't honor a treaty anyway." or "[OP's alliance] blitz sucked." There, now I've written your post for you. Have a nice day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriekfreak Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 [quote name='Steve Buscemi' timestamp='1294738154' post='2571869'] [i]Buscemi's guide to treaty cancellation thread posting[/i] Are you directly allied to or allied to allies of the OP? [b]If yes[/b], then post "Good move [OP's alliance]. o7 [OP's alliance]" [b]If you answered no[/b], then you must be directly allied to or allied to allies of [alliance cancelled on]. Post, "[alliance cancelled on] is better off with you [OP's alliance]." You can also spice things up by adding, "[OP's alliance] won't honor a treaty anyway." or "[OP's alliance] blitz sucked." There, now I've written your post for you. Have a nice day. [/quote] Why didn't you post this sooner? I wrote that wall of text for nothing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buscemi Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 (edited) [quote name='kriekfreak' timestamp='1294738775' post='2571874'] Why didn't you post this sooner? I wrote that wall of text for nothing? [/quote] I was too busy trying to figure out how to get out of bill-lock. I destroyed all my wonders to decrease bills. What a game loophole! Edited January 11, 2011 by Steve Buscemi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmia Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 [quote name='Steve Buscemi' timestamp='1294738154' post='2571869'] [i]Buscemi's guide to treaty cancellation thread posting[/i] Are you directly allied to or allied to allies of the OP? [b]If yes[/b], then post "Good move [OP's alliance]. o7 [OP's alliance]" [b]If you answered no[/b], then you must be directly allied to or allied to allies of [alliance cancelled on]. Post, "[alliance cancelled on] is better off with you [OP's alliance]." You can also spice things up by adding, "[OP's alliance] won't honor a treaty anyway." or "[OP's alliance] blitz sucked." There, now I've written your post for you. Have a nice day. [/quote] You forgot about disinterested 3rd party which would be something along the lines of *points and laughs and insults both alliances*. Or "good luck to both parties" even though it is a disinterested third party. Being the disinterested party I am - good luck to both of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link Gaetz Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 [quote name='snibbmaster' timestamp='1294717543' post='2571714'] Errr not really. [/quote] Yah, you wouldn't understand an ally like NEW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iosif Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 [quote name='Link Gaetz' timestamp='1294756662' post='2571963'] Yah, you wouldn't understand an ally like NEW. [/quote] been there, done that, posted this announcement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faust Betreur Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 This is for the best for both parties, iFOK you're better off without them, NEW I'm sure you will lament the loss of such a steadfast ally, this treaty wasn't worth the paper it was written on, rah rah rah rah rah arexes posts tl;dr wall of text, everybody wins! Good thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 [quote name='Steve Buscemi' timestamp='1294738154' post='2571869'] [i]Buscemi's guide to treaty cancellation thread posting[/i] Are you directly allied to or allied to allies of the OP? [b]If yes[/b], then post "Good move [OP's alliance]. o7 [OP's alliance]" [b]If you answered no[/b], then you must be directly allied to or allied to allies of [alliance cancelled on]. Post, "[alliance cancelled on] is better off with you [OP's alliance]." You can also spice things up by adding, "[OP's alliance] won't honor a treaty anyway." or "[OP's alliance] blitz sucked." There, now I've written your post for you. Have a nice day. [/quote] You just robbed that from the DoW propaganda chart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Full support to iFOK, nobody wants to be put in that position again and if you can't get guarantees that it won't happen then another course of action is necessary. Good luck to NEW as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link Gaetz Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 [quote name='Iosif' timestamp='1294758512' post='2571984'] been there, done that, posted this announcement [/quote] I was allied to them a lot longer than you and I consider them one of the best allies I've had. Guess different folks look for different things in allies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTheFirst Posted January 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 [quote name='Link Gaetz' timestamp='1294774965' post='2572143'] I was allied to them a lot longer than you and I consider them one of the best allies I've had. Guess different folks look for different things in allies. [/quote] They dropped you for the same reason as we're dropping them, so I guess that's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikz Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 [quote name='Link Gaetz' timestamp='1294774965' post='2572143'] I was allied to them a lot longer than you and I consider them one of the best allies I've had. Guess different folks look for different things in allies. [/quote] I guess so. Now give it a rest, everyone expected this, so why is everyone behaving so surprised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriekfreak Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 [quote name='erikz' timestamp='1294775263' post='2572150'] I guess so. Now give it a rest, everyone expected this, so why is everyone behaving so surprised? [/quote] It's a case of the beating husband still loving his ex. It appears TPF want NEW back. Perhaps NEW should get a restraining order against TPF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link Gaetz Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Give it a rest? Yah, I have, what, three short posts in this thread. Go nag someone else please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArneS Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 [quote name='Link Gaetz' timestamp='1294774965' post='2572143'] I was allied to them a lot longer than you and I consider them one of the best allies I've had. Guess different folks look for different things in allies. [/quote] Hey, it might be a surprise to you, but being good allies is about more than always wanting to fight for your allies. It's also about not bringing your allies in a tough position for stupid reasons for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KainIIIC Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 [quote name='kriekfreak' timestamp='1294650368' post='2570948'] Wall of Text [/quote] Too bad Arexes, you still get to be on my crappy propaganda [img]http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b265/KainIIIC/PCiFOKrunaway.gif[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link Gaetz Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 [quote name='ArneS' timestamp='1294777884' post='2572206'] Hey, it might be a surprise to you, but being good allies is about more than always wanting to fight for your allies. It's also about not bringing your allies in a tough position for stupid reasons for example. [/quote] Certainly true. You get different strengths and weaknesses from different alliances you ally with. NEW aren't perfect, but I always liked them a lot as an ally, as they'd go through a brick wall for you without blinking, something far too few alliances would do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperion321 Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 [quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1294771950' post='2572101'] You just robbed that from the DoW propaganda chart [/quote] Doesn't make it any less true. If you're allied to iFOK, you aren't going to troll them. If you aren't allied to iFOK, you are going to troll them. This thread is therefor pointless, because we already know what everyone is going to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankees Empire Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 [quote name='watchman' timestamp='1294711939' post='2571602'] iFok math is interesting mutual defense = optional defense Yeah, cancellation is clearly better. [/quote] Excellent description of iFOK's policy. I think you forgot the part where NEW attacked a protected AA with no reason. But other than that, very accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldConqueror Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 [quote name='Yankees Empire' timestamp='1294781417' post='2572259'] Excellent description of iFOK's policy. I think you forgot the part where NEW attacked a protected AA with no reason. But other than that, very accurate. [/quote] It [i]is[/i] watchman you're talking to, after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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