Epiphanus Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 [quote name='Beefspari' timestamp='1286766349' post='2480987'] Well, this is off to a good start. I look forward to UPN's next well-thought-out move. [/quote] Attack GOONS seems to be next on their to-do list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejayrazz Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 [quote name='Epiphanus' timestamp='1286766328' post='2480985'] Regardless, this move only works out in ODN's favor. So I'm not upset at the slightest. It's just a giant dick move on the part of UPN. But then again, I didn't really expect anything more from them. [/quote] Eh, can't force something my friend. If this is how they feel, so be it. I am sure there were many things said and done in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
President S O Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Best of luck, you're going to need it. I thought for sure that this cancellation would be coming from the other end. Who is going to save you now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardonic Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 You're welcome, ODN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrigo Donkini Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Good Luck to UPN. It's always sad to see friends drift apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCToker Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1286766316' post='2480984'] The problem with OsRavan's actions is that he was acting in total contradiction to UPN's wishes. OsRavan undermined Peggy's authority and UPN's sovereignty by entering ex parte with GOONS and directly making a deal Peggy had rejected. That is not the act of an ally regardless of whether UPN's decision to reject GOONS offer was bad or not. Alliances don't pay off their allies' enemies to go away behind their backs and get a high-five. OsRavan's behavior is really rather shocking to me. [/quote] An ally's job is to protect those they are allied to. I'll admit though that this is probably an unheard of concept for you. GO GO GADGET SPELLING ERRORS Edited October 11, 2010 by KCToker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epiphanus Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 [quote name='Ejayrazz' timestamp='1286766438' post='2480989'] Eh, can't force something my friend. If this is how they feel, so be it. I am sure there were many things said and done in between. [/quote] If you read my time line on page 2 (or 3). That really is literally the schedule of events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Conrad Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 The fact that ODN saved you from a hilarious beating is probably the best part of all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baltus Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Congrats, ODN. UPN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicninja Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 UPN nations to be hit soon I bet. Watch their war screens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snibbmaster Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1286766316' post='2480984'] Alliances don't pay off their allies' enemies to go away behind their backs and get a high-five. OsRavan's behavior is really rather shocking to me. [/quote] Of course it is, it stopped you from enacting your grand plan. If I were you, I'd be bummed too Edited October 11, 2010 by snibbmaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beefspari Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 [quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1286766316' post='2480984'] The problem with OsRavan's actions is that he was acting in total contradiction to UPN's wishes. OsRavan undermined Peggy's authority and UPN's sovereignty by entering ex parte with GOONS and directly making a deal Peggy had rejected. That is not the act of an ally regardless of whether UPN's decision to reject GOONS offer was bad or not. Alliances don't pay off their allies' enemies to go away behind their backs and get a high-five. OsRavan's behavior is really rather shocking to me. [/quote] While this sounds terrible in isolation, you forgot the other half of the story. Namely the part where UPN was trying to manufacture a war with flimsy excuses, and trying to pull ODN and ODN's friends into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryuzaki Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1286766316' post='2480984'] The problem with OsRavan's actions is that he was acting in total contradiction to UPN's wishes. OsRavan undermined Peggy's authority and UPN's sovereignty by entering ex parte with GOONS and directly making a deal Peggy had rejected. That is not the act of an ally regardless of whether UPN's decision to reject GOONS offer was bad or not. Alliances don't pay off their allies' enemies to go away behind their backs and get a high-five. OsRavan's behavior is really rather shocking to me. [/quote] And I am sure your stance on this issue isn't influenced by personal feelings [b]at all[/b]. EDIT: Fixing grammar. Edited October 11, 2010 by Ryuzaki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdur Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 You have got to be freaking kidding me. Oh well, things have gotten interesting o/ODN Best of luck to UPN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 [quote name='snibbmaster' timestamp='1286766657' post='2481001'] Of course it is, it stopped you from enacting your grand plan. If I were you, I'd be bummed too. Putting together such a [i]well organized[/i] coalition [b]must [/b]have been terribly difficult. Oh that's right, you weren't able to. [/quote] I'll tell you what, snibb, you point me to ODN's last big accomplishment, and then I'll start paying attention to your jabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestro Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 [quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1286766879' post='2481016'] I'll tell you what, snibb, you point me to ODN's last big accomplishment, and then I'll start paying attention to your jabs. [/quote] /me looks at this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankees Empire Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 I think the word that sums it up is....welp. Good luck UPN, I feel as though you may need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 [quote name='magicninja' timestamp='1286766640' post='2481000'] UPN nations to be hit soon I bet. Watch their war screens. [/quote] That's a 120 hour cancellation period, please note. (I speak as a member of the General Assembly, not government, but I don't think you'll find a murmur of disagreement from any ODNer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixoux Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Congrats UPN, you've managed to make ODN look even [i]better[/i] than before. This may possibly even sway the most ardent believers of 'optional defense network'! Thanks for doing our side such a service. It's much too kind of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snibbmaster Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 (edited) [quote name='thedestro' timestamp='1286766933' post='2481017'] /me looks at this thread [/quote] Here is one. Edited October 11, 2010 by snibbmaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 [quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1286766879' post='2481016'] I'll tell you what, snibb, you point me to ODN's last big accomplishment, and then I'll start paying attention to your jabs. [/quote] Well there is the fact that UPN is not currently being smashed apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnCapistan Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 [quote name='Pingu' timestamp='1286767001' post='2481022'] That's a 120 hour cancellation period, please note. (I speak as a member of the General Assembly, not government, but I don't think you'll find a murmur of disagreement from any ODNer). [/quote] You sure? [quote name='Proximus' timestamp='1286764661' post='2480896'] Can we waive the cancellation period? [/quote] I don't blame him either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 [quote name='Mr Damsky' timestamp='1286767101' post='2481030'] You sure? I don't blame him either. [/quote] The point being, unless and until the two parties agree to waive it (and Prox has no authority to do so), then ODN will stand by our treaty obligations. At hour 121, things change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 [quote name='lionheart' timestamp='1286767046' post='2481026'] Well there is the fact that UPN is not currently being smashed apart. [/quote] Oh, I wasn't aware that sneaking around behind your ally's back was an accomplishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voytek Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 (edited) <+HeroofTime55> Peggy, when you came to us, you never once mentioned you had previously agreed to pay GOONS off * Peggy_Sue|UPN sets mode: +b * HeroofTime55 was kicked by Peggy_Sue|UPN (Peggy_Sue|UPN) This will never get old. Edited October 11, 2010 by Voytek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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