Ultimatum to Tahoe

[iamthey]

At 07:19 on the morning of the 29th of January 2010 a letter of intent was delivered to the government of Tahoe making clear Greater Pacifica's position on the collapse of Viniland, and the future of Midway and its people. In it we expressed a sentiment of tolerance with respect to Tahoe's presence in the Pacific, but made clear that we would not accept the further expansion of Tahoan holdings through the take over of Midway, in any form. We moreover detailed a willingness to to work with Tahoe on the turn over, and a flexibility with respect to time frame. Each offer, all reasonable, were met with the stubborn refusal of the Irish regime. This refusal and lack of empathy to the anti-colonial sentiment fly's in the face of decades of Tahoan regional policy, and intolerance to Foreign expansion in the Americas. We have always been receptive, and respectful to such policies when they were the enforcer and arbiter, and it is now nothing short of hypocrisy and total disrespect that they should refuse to work with us now. We will remind the nations of the world that they have on multiple occasions refused the so called sovereign will of American nations to lease, and allocate land to foreign powers, they have denied foreign claims to American territory even when the land being claimed was entailed away by the former regime, they have denied nations American Status on the basis of their diplomatic ties, their culture, and the fact that they own territory external to the Americas. Each appeal used by those opposing Tahoe's regional policies is now being used by Tahoe to justify their claims on Midway. They have asserted Viniland's sovereign right to transfer its territory, they have asserted Viniland's final wishes, and they are asserted their status as a Pacific nation, though the vast bulk of their land is American, their culture is firmly American-centric, and their diplomatic ties exclusively extra-pacific. All little more than appeals they themselves have deemed on more than one occasion 'flimsy excuses and e-laywering'.

We will also remind the nations of the world that in this matter of Tahoe's colonial activities in the Pacific we have been many times more tolerant and reasonable than any Tahoan precedent. We approached the Viniland midway, and the Tahoan Hawaii from the position of a moderate, accepting that it would do more harm than good to oust the respective administrations after so many years of establishment. Now that Viniland has collapsed and thus the Administration of Midway, we believe that as a nation sharing a region with the colonized island, and sharing more in common with Viniland culturally and socially than Tahoe, it is now the time to begin a turn over. This began with a simple and mutually respectful diplomatic overture, allowing Tahoe to accept without losing face, and even now we continue to maintain this option for a diplomatic solution. Our handling of this matter stands in sharp contrast with the many Tahoan precedents of uncompromising aggression, and domineering regional paternalism.

Tahoe has twenty-four hours to formally express an intent to cooperate with a turn over of midway administration to Greater Pacifica. We await their statement, and maintain our willingness to work out the meat of the turnover (the time frame, and whatever reservations there might be) in diplomatic conference.

Sincere Regards,

High Magistrate of Greater Pacifica

OOC: 24 Hours RL

Edited January 30, 2010 by iamthey

[Manetheren]

No

[Zoot Zoot]

EDIT

ooc nvm

Edited January 30, 2010 by Zoot Zoot

[iamthey]

"Tahoe's response has been noted." - Thomas Devereaux, High Magistrate

Edited January 30, 2010 by iamthey

[Azrael Alexander]

No

Kyraylian News Network

It has come to our attention that the Ultimatum given to Tahoe by the Pacific has been rejected. Many fear this will lead to needless war between the two nations. I believe and hope like I know my fellow Kyraylians do. That cooler heads will prevail.

[Jordosaur94]

The Reich hopes that war will be avoided between Tahoe and Pacific Oceania, for the Scottish Ultimatum against Louisiana led to war between the two countries, and we hope that some sort of peaceful compromise is reached.

[Centurius]

Dispatch from the Foreign Affairs Department of the Holy American Empire

Due to the escalation on this issue the Holy American Empire once again confirms her neutrality due to the Diamonds Pact and American Sovereignty Pact conflicting on this issue. All Imperial waterways will be open to Pacifican and Tahoan ships both Military as Civilian. We hope diplomacy is still able to prevail.

Edited January 31, 2010 by Centurius

[Kaiser Martens]

"Even if arguably it may be right in principle to oppose Tahoe's expansion, does this warrant a war? This seems like a disgraceful repeat of the last war. Pacifica's stance seems to be nowhere better than Tahoe's: Countering expansion with their own desires to expand. But more importantly, nobody has considered making any referenda or plebiscites so that the people living in the disputed sector may actually voice their opinion, the opinion of the people seems to be what matters the least here, and they're handled as herded animals, stuck between two Giants. We'll give them shelter if we have to, in fact, a ship is on its way with this purpose...an unarmed ship, of course. We hope that Pacifica will not push this further. Ultimately, Tahoe obtained the land peacefully, and in our eyes that is more valid than doing so through warfare."

Privately... "But who am I fooling? Of course they'll go to war anyway."

[HHAYD]

Private, in TUO's HQ:

"$100 says they go to war!"

"$500 says it is going to turn into another curbstomp fest!"

"$3,500 says FSA is going to get involved!"

"$10,000 says FSA defeats us!"

Everyone glares at the 4th person

"Um, 10,000 says it turns into a nuke fest?..."

[Manetheren]

This has nothing to do with expansion. If we were turning Midway into a fortified island with an extensive military pesence, we could understand Pacifica's concern. Unfortunately, it is an uninhabited wildlife reserve. Starting a war (which would be difficult to carry out across thousands of miles of open ocean against land based targets) is foolish.

We have no intentions of fighting aggressive wars, as our neutrality doctrine states.

[Kaiser Martens]

German satellites can verify that. There hardly seem to be any human structures to begin with.

"In that case, the situation is different from that in the last war, in which a base was being built. Will a natural reserve truly be turned into a scorched battlefield? We hope not. This is the equivalent of a DMZ, but also a "De-humanized zone"...there truly is no danger. I hope that nations of the world can diplomatically come together to end this before it starts."

[king of cochin]

The Kingdom of Cochin reiterates its support for Greater Pacifica.

[Mergerberger II]

"The Revolutionary Socialist Syndicate of the Netherlands shall support the Tahoe Republic in this affair. They have made no actions which have warranted this type of response from Pacifica, and Midway is certainly something not warranting a conflict, especially considering its nature as an uninhabited wildlife preserve rather than an actual military installation."

Sebastian Saviri

Prime Minister of the Revolutionary Socialist Syndicate of the Netherlands

[Executive Minister]

"Ultimatums are soooo 09'"

[Biohazard]

"As an American nation, I, and the rest of Puerto Rico, would like to express our vocal support for Tahoe. They have done nothing wrong, and Greater Pacifica has made its intents known, by sending this ultimatum.

Hopefully, peace can be attained, diplomatically, and without resorting to violence," stated Francis Ferrer.

[loannes]

"We continue to support Greater Pacifica on this matter."

-HRH King James II

[iamthey]

OOC: It is not a wildlife preserve, it was a Viniland military complex with a civilian population. You expressed an intent to transform it into a wildlife preserve but that couldn't have taken place in the last 24 hours. That's god moding.

Edited January 31, 2010 by iamthey

[Californian]

"We remain neutral but will take appropriate action should one of our allies become involved in this conflict."

[V The King]

OOC: For clarification: Midway was not permanently populated - it had a single building which served as both as a monitoring station for local wildlife and a (very) minor refueling base for Vinilandese ships. It is far too small to have a significant military base in there.

[Botha]

[color="#000080"]The Government of Transvaal supports its Tahoe bretheren. It is foolish to make war over a wildlife reserve.[/color]

[Sir Keshav IV]

"So if we expannd into America it warrants war. What hypocrites America is. We support Greater Pacifica."

[Sir Keshav IV]

"So if we expannd into America it warrants war. What hypocrites America is. We support Greater Pacifica."

[DeSchaine]

We find the GP to be overly paranoid in this situation. To issue such an ultimatum about a barely inhabited island in the middle of nowhere is mentaller. It is made even more so when one takes into consideration that it is NOT a Tahoe holding, but rather a protectorate.

We also note that GP did not have a problem with an American nation holding the island until this point. Why? V-land subscribed to the same anti colony policies as Tahoe.

[Bacharth]

[quote name='Botha' date='30 January 2010 - 09:52 PM' timestamp='1264917138' post='2146833']
[color="#000080"]The Government of Transvaal supports its Tahoe bretheren. It is foolish to make war over a wildlife reserve.[/color]
[/quote]

If it is a Wildlife reserve, why is Tahoe so bent on keeping it?

[Manetheren]

Why would we want to hand over a strategic island to a hostile nation? Would you give a wildlife reserve to an enemy inside your nation?

No. Midway is part of the Hawaiian Island chain geographically, a State of the Tahoe Republic which has been an integral part of the Republic for longer than Greater Pacifica has existed. It is as much a colony to Tahoe as French Polynesia is to Greater Pacifica (both the same distances from our respective homelands).

Imperial Wellington and Greater Aotearoa broke their backs straining desparately for hegemony in the Pacific. Imperial Wellington and Greater Aotearoa both made genocidal attempts to destroy Tahoe and claim Hawaii as their own. Imperial Wellington and Greater Aotearoa collapsed into dust, their leaders in exile or dead, many destroyed and their bodies hung to the elements at the entrance to Pearl Harbor. Greater Pacifica may desire war, but it is not a war they can win. We suggest they put this behind them, as we will, and go about business as usual in their nation and leave us and ours alone.

Rememeber the lessons of Greater Aotearoa. The coniving and ruthless rulers of New Zealand have a poor track record against the proud Tahoan warrior.