SpacingOutMan Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Spitfire anyone? C'mon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWilliam Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 (edited) A lot of the alliance leadership positions really shouldn't need to be "big name" people. If you're in charge of any variety of internal processes it really doesn't matter how popular or famous you are outside of your alliance. Most of our best organizers, financiers, generals and other positions that deal with internal affairs never achieve recognition outside of our boards because they are too busy working hard to socialize with the rest of you. When I see a list filled to the brim with famous people and type A personalities that the starstruck suggester probably has never interacted with on any level to make a fair judgment, I chuckle to myself at how much of a disaster that alliance would be. Not only would most of those leaders be unable to tolerate the others for more than a few days, but they'd be such a mixed bag of political preferences, contacts, loyalties and approaches to foreign policy that the alliance would collapse in on itself internally even as the rest of the world fell madly in love with them. Well said, Penguin. Well said. The fantasy line-ups are fun and all, but they're not overly practical nor do they necessarily take into account the lesser profile, but as (if not more) valuable players in this game (and this comes from someone who was mentioned a few times). Personally I'm surprised no one mentioned Trace in this thread or in the other one (unless I missed it) - for one, he was excellent with our protectorates and their development, notably FoB. edit: fixed some of the wording Edited October 5, 2009 by SirWilliam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Boris Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Turetel in FEAR, definitely. Hard worker who is extremely easily likable and very competent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadshot Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 I would put Cheyenne on any council I created. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arwen Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 A lot of the alliance leadership positions really shouldn't need to be "big name" people. If you're in charge of any variety of internal processes it really doesn't matter how popular or famous you are outside of your alliance. Most of our best organizers, financiers, generals and other positions that deal with internal affairs never achieve recognition outside of our boards because they are too busy working hard to socialize with the rest of you. When I see a list filled to the brim with famous people and type A personalities that the starstruck suggester probably has never interacted with on any level to make a fair judgment, I chuckle to myself at how much of a disaster that alliance would be. Not only would most of those leaders be unable to tolerate the others for more than a few days, but they'd be such a mixed bag of political preferences, contacts, loyalties and approaches to foreign policy that the alliance would collapse in on itself internally even as the rest of the world fell madly in love with them. I support this quote 100%. It's easy to become popular. Most of the people who really matter work hard behind the scenes. Also, the smart leaders are good at deligating to get a lot of the work done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ModusOperandi Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 We Masons know our officers, Councilors and Grand Master are among the best; I hope everyone in a community believes the same about their own leaders as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiCkO Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Imperial, he brought us out of NPO's viceroyship and we have really grown thanks to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix von Agnu Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 DrunkMonkey is the best damn finance person I've ever worked with. E_C was amazing at IA as well. I remember those two working to get TPF ready for war, among others, and doing a stellar job of doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hizzy Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 I have to throw my hat in for the crew running RoA, Valdemar, Elfriede, and Sherman in particular... some of the most level headed and intelligent guys (and girl) I've ever worked with. If anything, they certainly showed it when they caught TGE spying... they had everything documented, they were professional, and at the end of the day when TGE's fate was in their hands they kept their head right and showed mercy. I'll take RoA over most big names any day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 fake edit: eh, my list looks more like a "CN zombie draft" than underrated draft. Oh well. Also destined for drama. e 2: More like a list of just people I liked working with. IA - Nintenderek. Dedicated, genial, hard worker, tops at academies WARNING: DO NOT allow near black ops IA - This user http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=19796 WARNING: Do not allow near FA FA - ChunkyMonkey FA - BobJanova (accent a plus) FA/IA - Biff Webster IA - Kahn Leadership: Zzzptm Anywhere: Flonker Anywhere: Jason8 Propaganda/Prose: Sarah Tintagyl Propaganda/Prose: m_ivko Propaganda/Prose: Zzzptm Thongs - Oreo I don't know if some of these people ever worked in the areas but I think they'd be cool there. I'd say both banned member (I think she's filtered – long time GOON Black Senator) The member in question: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=19796 That Cheyenne guy. Most underrated at quitting hurrrrrrrr (I love you but it was easy; plus no one has seriously said that for months) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proko Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 I'm just going to list a couple of great Polars that don't get much international attention GEWilliam (William Krieger on these boards) Not Sane Swiper Goalintos Moridin These guys are all spectacular at what they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehChron Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Well said, Penguin. Well said. The fantasy line-ups are fun and all, but they're not overly practical nor do they necessarily take into account the lesser profile, but as (if not more) valuable players in this game (and this comes from someone who was mentioned a few times). Personally I'm surprised no one mentioned Trace in this thread or in the other one (unless I missed it) - for one, he was excellent with our protectorates and their development, notably FoB.edit: fixed some of the wording What's truly amazing about the original NPO councils (which are comprised of many "big name" individuals of today) is that they actually did do all the legwork way back when. Bakunin's Dream would be the best example of this, I would think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrael Alexander Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 FA - BobJanova (accent a plus)Propaganda/Prose: Zzzptm I would not consider these two as underrated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneLOL Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 For me, I'd say: King Xander Jorost NCC Extraduty Emperor Marx Shurukian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 I would really, truly love to see ChunkyMonkey and Bob Janova on the same alliance's FA team. That's not to say it's a good idea, but it would be spectacular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicalTrevor Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Empirica is a great shout for this thread, very much underated. As are the 3 Romanians, Delendum lebubu & uaciaut, a lot of what is good about MK at the moment has come from those 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heracles the Great Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Not sure how he's rated by most, but I'd say Liquid Mercury is one of the best leaders that I've ever worked with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchman Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 I'm going to cast my lot with Lusitan from TFD. Great diplomat, great at finance, game mechanics ... everything. Very underrated. Also, I'll give a special shout to one of our Commanders at TSO - Sleepib. Most people have never heard of him. But, when it comes to in game elements (war, finance, etc) there is nobody better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWilliam Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 (edited) Not sure how he's rated by most, but I'd say Liquid Mercury is one of the best leaders that I've ever worked with. He's rated pretty highly by many. Edited October 5, 2009 by SirWilliam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandwich Controversy Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 (edited) edit: wrong thread noooo Edited October 5, 2009 by Sandwich Controversy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff Webster Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 FA/IA - Biff Webster Love myself better than I love myself. My pick would be M_a_C_a from the GPA. Hardest working man in CN period. Place him in charge of anything and he will succeed. The only weaknesses I can see are that he is prone to take things on himself instead of delegating, although once you've proven yourself, he has your back. He would need a little more personal vanity to truly become a world leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinite Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 WandMDave. Ever heard of him? Probably not if you aren't in Sparta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 WandMDave. Ever heard of him? Probably not if you aren't in Sparta. Yeah, I've heard of him. No, I don't know him. But that can be said of me and nearly everyone in Sparta, especially now that oddjob's left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistedRebelDB47 Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Some of the best people I've worked for, with, or against: JBone - he's always been the real master of defense for TPF, not TBB; an honor working for him Greenacres - one of the best military minds, as well as a surprisingly effective internal leader Jason8 - lead RAD through more than enough of its lulz-caused hurdles Prince Arutha - always had the utmost respect for him as the leader of Nueva Vida, added plus that he was one of the best people I ever fought against in a war Ramirus Maximus - everyone talks about Liquid Mercury, but this guy was a crucial part of the Karma war effort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uralica Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 (edited) So it's not just the "boss" then eh? Well then, there are a few I could put here: Atora (TOOL) - Finance genius. He's actually a big reason TOOL's where it is today. Ogden Chichester (CCC) - Everyone should be blessed by the awesomeness that is Oggie. He is about the gentlest soul you'll ever meet in this game, and a great FA guy to boot. PlanckBorn (TOOL) - Atora version 2.0. Mirreille (AODB) - FA win and a true lady of CN. Who could possibly hate her? :wub: Edited October 6, 2009 by Uralica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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