A joint announcement and a few housekeeping notes from UCR

[RevolutionaryRebel]

OOC: If you were all true to 'Leftist' principles, you would do what the Socialists did in World War 1 and declare complete neutrality and pacifism so as to estrange yourselves forever from the bourgeois wars over Planet Bob's capital. "Our enemies are not Equilibrium, and not LSF or C&G. The common enemy of us all, no matter what nationality to which we belong - is the beast within us. Nowhere is this truth so clearly confirmed, as now, when, intoxicated, and excessively proud of their false science, their foreign culture and their civilization of the machine, people of the 20th century have suddenly realized the true stage of its development: this step is no higher than that which our ancestors were at in the days of Dave and The Internationale. It is infinitely sad to know that many years of Leftist Alliances have passed almost without a trace upon the people." (Apologies to Valentin Bulgakov)

[Optimistic]

OOC: If you were all true to 'Leftist' principles, you would do what the Socialists did in World War 1 and declare complete neutrality and pacifism so as to estrange yourselves forever from the bourgeois wars over Planet Bob's capital. "Our enemies are not Equilibrium, and not LSF or C&G. The common enemy of us all, no matter what nationality to which we belong - is the beast within us. Nowhere is this truth so clearly confirmed, as now, when, intoxicated, and excessively proud of their false science, their foreign culture and their civilization of the machine, people of the 20th century have suddenly realized the true stage of its development: this step is no higher than that which our ancestors were at in the days of Dave and The Internationale. It is infinitely sad to know that many years of Leftist Alliances have passed almost without a trace upon the people."(Apologies to Valentin Bulgakov)

But where's the fun in that?

[Cataduanes]

OOC: exactly, this is a game afterall.

[Garion]

Leftist drama, I almost missed it. A pity SWF is not in this, though :(

[shwampy]

cyber nations would be a poorer place without lol-commie-dramaz :)

[Ayatollah Bromeini]

You're all revisionist splittlers.

[Sunwise]

You're all revisionist splittlers.

 

No, you are--in fact--the turd.

[tamerlane]

Don't get me wrong, the path that INT has taken was well-deserving of the words hurled against it. And it certainly caused quite a lot of grief, pixel-ruin notwithstanding. But the chosen degree of involvement Die Linke has in this war is defense of our allies. The goal is not the destruction of INT or ODN, but merely an end to the aggression against NATO in a manner that satisfies NATO. Your alliance's destruction will not be because we desire revenge but because we desire Justice. Justice for our friends in NATO. As for our own Justice, that is a seperate matter not relevant to our involvement in this war, but to the matter as to why Die Linke was forged. To blaze a new path rooted in the traditions of the Left. To show the error of your covetousness of power.

Although the true destruction of INT will be how its covetousness made itself a blight before the world, hitching its wagon to a train of desperation in selling its soul. Not LSF bloodlust.

There isnt enough NS in your alliance to really achieve any of the goals you outline here,  you know? 

[Ernesto Che Guevara]

This comment would make more sense if UCR/LSF hadn't already shared an MDoAP before signing this.

 

 

Hahahaha. Yes, it is definitely good work that leads to INT's current situation. :rolleyes:

 

 

Well that and a lot of cowardice on the opposing side. At least equilolbrium's original members took on Umbrella with only slight odds on their side. Your copycat attacks are just sadly pathetic. 

[Hereno]

Well that and a lot of cowardice on the opposing side. At least equilolbrium's original members took on Umbrella with only slight odds on their side. Your copycat attacks are just sadly pathetic. 

I really hope that you don't actually believe this and are just in here trying to defend your coalition partners, because it's a really dumb argument you guys are using and it is making you look bad. The only reason UCR's DoW came later than the others was because they had to take longer and vote on it, and I don't think that allowing the enemy any greater odds than they had to be allowed was the plan of any alliance in any war, ever.

 

Although I think you will find that this particular aggression activation had more to do with bad blood than anything else. If all of the alliances on the opposite side really wanted to take a shot at INT, with many of them being leftists, ex-allies, or both, maybe you should consider that maybe the problem isn't that everybody wants to hit INT, but rather that INT's own policies made so many people want to kick them in the mouth. Your "No fair! Dogpiling!" is little more than the battle-cry of someone who is losing and can't do anything else about it.

Edited January 27, 2013 by Hereno

[Ayatollah Bromeini]

I really hope that you don't actually believe this and are just in here trying to defend your coalition partners, because it's a really dumb argument you guys are using and it is making you look bad. The only reason UCR's DoW came later than the others was because they had to take longer and vote on it, and I don't think that allowing the enemy any greater odds than they had to be allowed was the plan of any alliance in any war, ever.

 

 

 

The only reason UCR's DoW came later than the others was because they had to take longer and vote on it

 

 

 

 

 

 

 they had to take longer and vote on it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another alliance took longer voting on something than LSF did?

 

 

Dark times.  :mellow:

Edited January 27, 2013 by Ayatollah Bromeini

[Sabcat]

We don't vote on MD clauses. We vote on signing the treaty, once we've signed it there's nothing to vote on, we enter. If it was an OA clause, we'd have voted as well.

[Gingervites]

There is no recognition of hostilities. There is only a dog pile. There is only a despicable act with no real precedent in the history of the CN left. You are shooting your comrades while there was no treaty obligation for you to do so. No legalistic mumbo-jumbo can change the essence of your act. I have no words.

Int must be a beacon of light in this dark land, a saint among sinners right? Right?? You guys are a joke and you claiming that this is despicable is very ironic considering how you left LSF, your leftist "comrades"  to burn. You guys deserve every beating you are taking and are gonna take this war.

[Cataduanes]

cyber nations would be a poorer place without lol-commie-dramaz :)

 

I beg to differ, we had plenty of Leftist failure in the Great Wars era. One of the motivating factors for me when I served in the CPCN and INT was to help forge a leftist movement within CN that could avoid the humiliations of the past...you can imagine how disappointing it is for an old fart like me to see how things have panned out in 2012/13  :mellow:

Edited January 27, 2013 by Cataduanes

[Ernesto Che Guevara]

Why didn't LSF take a pass at Int on their own, then? They had to wait until odds were overwhelmingly in their favor? And Int are the cowards? Laughable.

[Subcomandante VL]

I beg to differ, we had plenty of Leftist failure in the Great Wars era. One of the motivating factors for me when I served in the CPCN and INT was to help forge a leftist movement within CN that could avoid the humiliations of the past...you can imagine how disappointing it is for an old fart like me to see how things have panned out in 2012/13  :mellow:

 

It's all because you didn't come back Cata. :(

[Cataduanes]

It's all because you didn't come back Cata. :(

You flatter an old man, tbh I always saw the likes of Finnish Commie, Karl Marx, Craig and Q as far more capable leaders than myself.

[Anarquista]

Why didn't LSF take a pass at Int on their own, then? They had to wait until odds were overwhelmingly in their favor? And Int are the cowards? Laughable.

 

24 hours after our MD ally was hit, we had to jump on the opportunity to find targets

 

i can tell you though, we aren't afraid of ruins

[Comrade Craig]

This is about the Left, which you resolutely turned your back on a long time ago, clinging to your beloved new comrades in pawn-shuffling power blocs that would have had you abusing our honorbound oath to you to reduce the oldest Left alliance to yet another mere pawn.

INT made its choice, and defiled our traditions, trading integrity for coin. And while we may share a common cause with Equilibrium, in the end, we are doing what we've always done, by honoring our treaty with NATO. And now, after months of discussion and years of building camaraderie, we have joined our banner with UCR's, to build the kind of unity that the high-and-mighty International refused to consider unless it was only under its own sole dominion.

I recall when Senator Swedes refused to sanction a rogue who was attacking INT. First he lied, claiming he couldn't do it, then he retreated to an excuse about how he wasn't a senator for his alliance and therefore had no obligation. At some point his selfish motivation was revealed: the rogue was his trade partner.

You have zero integrity, old friend. You hide behind cheap slogans to hide your complete lack of it

-Craig

[Comrade Craig]

The funny thing is we're not even the ones really doing the shooting.
 
INT dug its grave long before the big LSF debacle last year, and anyone who's been there long enough is completely aware of this.

INT will be alive and strong when the UCR is nothing more than a footnote in our history books. You, like your allies in the LSF, have betrayed the workers of Planet Bob. This act of class betrayal will not be forgotten by the workers, who have long memories. Even now, the children of the fallen are plotting their revenge.

-Craig

[Subcomandante VL]

You flatter an old man, tbh I always saw the likes of Finnish Commie, Karl Marx, Craig and Q as far more capable leaders than myself.

 

FC didn't come back either, Marx has been gone forever, and Q went inactive, all of which left Craig to pursue effectively whatever he wanted.

[Subcomandante VL]

INT will be alive and strong when the UCR is nothing more than a footnote in our history books. You, like your allies in the LSF, have betrayed the workers of Planet Bob. This act of class betrayal will not be forgotten by the workers, who have long memories. Even now, the children of the fallen are plotting their revenge.

-Craig

 

It's funny you should talk of betrayal when you flat out abanoned the alliance that you put in such a shitty situation.

 

But I guess that is pretty hard to digest.

[Comrade Craig]

FC didn't come back either, Marx has been gone forever, and Q went inactive, all of which left Craig to pursue effectively whatever he wanted.

I love the ego here. UCR, SWF, and LSF are filled with would-be dictators whose visions of power and glory were thwarted by INT's strong adherence to democratic principle. You failed to sway the Party, and resigned in disgrace, as Swedes had done before you. You retreated to the comfort of your own little pond.

Let's not pretend this has anything to do with principle. This drama-within-a-drama that you've launched is about your pride and nothing else.

I can't help but laugh about the accusation that somehow all the "blame" resides in my hands. I resigned from the alliance some time ago. You'll need to come up with a new bogeyman.

It's funny you should talk of betrayal when you flat out abanoned the alliance that you put in such a !@#$%* situation.

But I guess that is pretty hard to digest.

Since I resigned from the Party, I have volunteered all my spare time towards assisting them in whatever capacity was needed or requested. My commitment to socialism on Planet Bob is absolute. What support have you provided since your departure? All I've seen thus far from you and your crew is a bit of attention whoring; most recently in the form of a paper declaration of war with no follow-through.

Talk minus action equals zero.

-Craig Edited January 28, 2013 by Comrade Craig

[Ernesto Che Guevara]

24 hours after our MD ally was hit, we had to jump on the opportunity to find targets

 

i can tell you though, we aren't afraid of ruins

Then why wait until now? 

[Subcomandante VL]

I love the ego here. UCR, SWF, and LSF are filled with would-be dictators whose visions of power and glory were thwarted by INT's strong adherence to democratic principle. You failed to sway the Party, and resigned in disgrace, as Swedes had done before you. You retreated to the comfort of your own little pond.

Let's not pretend this has anything to do with principle. This drama-within-a-drama that you've launched is about your pride and nothing else.

I can't help but laugh about the accusation that somehow all the blame resides in my hands. I resigned from the alliance some time ago. You'll need to come up with a new bogeyman.

-Craig

 

1) Virtually everyone involving themselves in CN politics is a would-be dictator. So I don't see how this is relevant.

 

2) I didn't fail to sway the "Party" (I still love your adherence to these corny Soviet-style altruisms, never change), I failed to sway your personality cult because you're a better and more experienced charismatic authority than I.

 

3) I resigned after two years of fighting your (and others', but mostly your) desire for more. More power. More pixels. More friends. More entanglements. More will lead us to greatness. There's an old saying that I think applies well: Capitalism is the childish notion that there's no such thing as "too much."

 

Yeah I had my hand in some of it, hell I even wrote the Umbrella treaty. There became a point where it was futile to even try and fight your influence over everything, and then a point where I was too disgusted by what I was doing.

 

I can't imagine how lost INT is without you to be quite honest. I understand Q has made somewhat of a comeback though, which has been nice to hear. He was always quite a tad more level-headed than you.