Reptyler Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Can anyone name a treaty partnership that has been in effect longer than VE and GOD? Balkan Entente: http://forums.cybernations.net/?showtopic=26054 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='Reptyler' timestamp='1322931909' post='2860716'] Can anyone name a treaty partnership that has been in effect longer than VE and GOD? Balkan Entente: http://forums.cybernations.net/?showtopic=26054 [/quote] There are quite a few treaties older than that, with the RIA-TTK NAP being the oldest treaty that we know of currently (Nov. 2006). Military-treaty wise, I believe the VE-GOD MDP is the oldest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Savage Man Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 the ordinance of the orders will never die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 (edited) Actually Rep is a tard, there has been a VE-GOD treaty in place since October of 2007, the [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=4620]Maroon Entente[/url]. BE is a bloc treaty. Edit: Link Edited December 3, 2011 by goldielax25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonewall Jaxon Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='Chief Savage Man' timestamp='1322932145' post='2860719'] the ordinance of the orders will never die [/quote] He beat me to it. Hell will freeze over before the Ordinance is ever cancelled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWilliam Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 There was a thread on this very topic not too long ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='SirWilliam' timestamp='1322932615' post='2860724'] There was a thread on this very topic not too long ago. [/quote] I google'd it. Unless I missed a more recent one, the one I thought of was actually in early 2010. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamven Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 (edited) [quote name='goldielax25' timestamp='1322932415' post='2860721'] Actually Rep is a tard, there has been a VE-GOD treaty in place since October of 2007, the [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=4620]Maroon Entente[/url]. BE is a bloc treaty. Edit: Link [/quote] Just shows how much we each other Edited December 3, 2011 by Jamven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealthkill Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 I don't remember the exact date off the top of my head, but I thought TOP-IRON was the oldest military treaty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='Stealthkill' timestamp='1322935530' post='2860759'] I don't remember the exact date off the top of my head, but I thought TOP-IRON was the oldest military treaty. [/quote] [url="http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Hearts_of_Iron_II"]Hearts of Iron II[/url] was signed in October of '09. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus PDOX Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 July 3rd, 2007 was the date when TOP and IRON signed a MDP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Keshav IV Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/The_Napalm_in_the_Morning_Accords Sep 2007 definitely older then GOD-VE it seems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Those treaties have not been in effect for the entire time since they were signed though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baltus Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 (edited) There is no force in the cyberverse capable of coming between the Orders. EDIT: Technically, the oldest treaty that mandates defense would be [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=814"]the SuperFriends Pact[/url]. Edited December 3, 2011 by Baltus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Keshav IV Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='goldielax25' timestamp='1322942176' post='2860849'] Those treaties have not been in effect for the entire time since they were signed though [/quote] Last activated Feb 07 2010 not many wars since then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhysicsJunky Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='Delta1212' timestamp='1322932744' post='2860727'] I google'd it. Unless I missed a more recent one, the one I thought of was actually in early 2010. [/quote] I answered a question about it in the "CN World Records" thread recently. The oldest continuously active treaty is a NAP between RIA-TTK (October 20th, 2006). I believe the second oldest continuous treaty, and oldest military, is between the 2nd VE and GOD (October 12, 2007). That's considering the FCC-LOSS non-military SISTER treaty to be defunct in practice as the FCC has four members and lacks a government now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='Baltus' timestamp='1322942540' post='2860853'] There is no force in the cyberverse capable of coming between the Orders. EDIT: Technically, the oldest treaty that mandates defense would be [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=814"]the SuperFriends Pact[/url]. [/quote] Yeah, so it seems. SF! was created on Sept. 7th 2007, so that would make it both the oldest military treaty and bloc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flak attack Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='SpacingOutMan' timestamp='1322943363' post='2860869'] Yeah, so it seems. SF! was created on Sept. 7th 2007, so that would make it both the oldest military treaty and bloc. [/quote] Wouldn't that make it likely that there's an RIA-Fark treaty that predates that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feanor Noldorin Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='SpacingOutMan' timestamp='1322943363' post='2860869'] Yeah, so it seems. SF! was created on Sept. 7th 2007, so that would make it both the oldest military treaty and bloc. [/quote] [quote name='Deus PDOX' timestamp='1322936932' post='2860775'] July 3rd, 2007 was the date when TOP and IRON signed a MDP. [/quote] TOP/IRON is older than that unless of course you want to disqualify it because the words of the treaty were updated. I would find that rather silly though because the mutual defense part has remained unchanged since July 3, 2007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='Feanor Noldorin' timestamp='1322944513' post='2860885'] TOP/IRON is older than that unless of course you want to disqualify it because the words of the treaty were updated. I would find that rather silly though because the mutual defense part has remained unchanged since July 3, 2007. [/quote] I would argue that they are different treaties. Semantics? Yes, but there are no doubt current military treaties that were upgraded from ToA-or-lower treaties that precede the TOP-IRON MDP as well (one could argue that ToAs/PIATS are ODPs depending on how they are worded, at least ToAs and PIATS in the old days). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='flak attack' timestamp='1322944039' post='2860876'] Wouldn't that make it likely that there's an RIA-Fark treaty that predates that? [/quote] We have a PIAT from June 2007 that pre-dated SF, but that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banksy Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Last time we did this, wasn't it a NADC/CCC/MCXA treaty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manis B Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 our oldest looks like its from 09. most of our old treaties have been evolved or merged or canceled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='Banksy' timestamp='1322946730' post='2860912'] Last time we did this, wasn't it a NADC/CCC/MCXA treaty? [/quote] CCC's oldest standing military treaty is with NpO (6/5/2009). The only treaty NADC & CCC share is an EDP, which was signed in July of 2011. MCXA's treaty with NADC was signed in 2008 and with CCC in 2011. None of their wikis have defunct/inactive treaties so maybe there was a bloc at some point. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reptyler Posted December 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='goldielax25' timestamp='1322932415' post='2860721'] Actually Rep is a tard. [/quote] Always and forever. Many thanks to those who are far more knowledgeable than I in these matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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