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[quote name='Kalasin' timestamp='1304397587' post='2704737']
To the people complaining about the ~excessive reps to GOONS~ you got what was coming to you when you dogpiled them rather than showing some balls and declaring on MK or Umbrella instead.
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Well atleast you've been paying attention to this war, it's not like [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=97858]KN declared on MK[/url] and you know [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=98289]NADCs declaration on MK/Umbrella[/url] must have been false, maybe [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=98288]TSI ment GOONS when they said MK[/url].

That's 3 alliances who didn't declare on GOONS but paying reps to GOONS, so you are fine with them paying reps for as you say, having balls?

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[quote name='Arthur Blair' timestamp='1304397633' post='2704739']
Yes, we did. Problem?

Also I'd quote schattenmann and mergerberger from a page or two back, but instead I'll just tell you two that as far as I'm concerned paying reparations was never a problem. Regardless of defensive or offensive actions taken. Losers pay, that's fine. Why shouldn't it be?

Especially mergerberger, are you saying it was fine when you did it, but when we do it that's an atrocity? What changed and when?
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Demand war reparations to cover the damage of a war that yourselves started is completly ridiculous and proves that the only thing that changes on cyberverse is who currently has the power.

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[quote name='Beefspari' timestamp='1304398256' post='2704759']
Finally... someone gets it!
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I'm curious, had they declared on all 3, but still put all their top tier in PM would that have changed anything? Seems to me you guys were outnumbered in the bottom tier from the get go.

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Yay! Maybe now my nations environment won't be so covered with a nuclear malaise :P

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[quote name='Lord Curzon' timestamp='1304398305' post='2704761']
Maybe Umb can teach you how to gobble up that tech. That should help fill it.
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I lost a lot of weight this war.

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[quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1304397941' post='2704751']
Oh no, we "got what was coming to us" for the heinous crime of using strategy to do as much damage as possible.
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And how did that strategy work out for ya?

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[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1304398311' post='2704762']
Well atleast you've been paying attention to this war, it's not like [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=97858]KN declared on MK[/url] and you know [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=98289]NADCs declaration on MK/Umbrella[/url] must have been false, maybe [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=98288]TSI ment GOONS when they said MK[/url].

That's 3 alliances who didn't declare on GOONS but paying reps to GOONS, so you are fine with them paying reps for as you say, having balls?
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I realise that there are one or two alliances who attacked MK and kudos to them (although KN and NADC are terrible alliances.) However, their side as a whole decided to focus their efforts exclusively on GOONS, who took loads of damage and thus need the reps for rebuilding purposes.

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[quote name='Kalasin' timestamp='1304398187' post='2704756']
If you're trying to imply that I'm trying to suck up to GOONS, I'm really not. I don't give enough of a damn anymore to try and suck up to anyone. I barely even get on IRC.
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No, I'm saying the idea that GOONS were victims of some injustice worthy of reps is idiotic.

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[quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1304397941' post='2704751']
Oh no, we "got what was coming to us" for the heinous crime of using strategy to do as much damage as possible. Shame on us for not walking into the slaughter on our own like good little victims!
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Your strategy was terrible and now you're paying for it. Or more accurately, the larger alliances that matter are.
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[quote name='Kalasin' timestamp='1304398560' post='2704770']
I realise that there are one or two alliances who attacked MK and kudos to them (although KN and NADC are terrible alliances.) However, their side as a whole decided to focus their efforts exclusively on GOONS, who took loads of damage and thus need the reps for rebuilding purposes.
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What the $%&@? Any damage GOONS took was a result of their war of election on NPO.

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[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1304398581' post='2704771']
No, I'm saying the idea that GOONS were victims of some injustice worthy of reps is idiotic.
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I never said it was injustice, I just said it was going to piss them off.

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[quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1304397941' post='2704751']
Oh no, we "got what was coming to us" for the heinous crime of using strategy to do as much damage as possible. Shame on us for not walking into the slaughter on our own like good little victims!
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Francesca is an idiot best ignored. Don't give her the platform to jabber on with her self-indulgent nonsense.

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[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1304398631' post='2704773']
What the $%&@? Any damage GOONS took was a result of their war of election on NPO.
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The days where reps were only demanded in defensive wars are long gone. Like I said, I don't care enough anymore to give a damn about Cyber Nations morality. Doomhouse attacked NPO because they were bored and wanted a fun war and instead NPO hid in peacemode and NPO's allies attacked GOONS because they were too scared to take on anyone bigger. This pissed off Doomhouse (particularly GOONS) and these terms are the result.

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[quote name='Kalasin' timestamp='1304398636' post='2704774']
I never said it was injustice, I just said it was going to piss them off.
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I love the new mentality of CN Politics "We dislike the strategy that you used because it made us take more damage than we expected when we made the plans to start the war, thus you will pay reparations to us."

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[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1304398311' post='2704762']
Well atleast you've been paying attention to this war, it's not like [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=97858]KN declared on MK[/url] and you know [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=98289]NADCs declaration on MK/Umbrella[/url] must have been false, maybe [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=98288]TSI ment GOONS when they said MK[/url].

That's 3 alliances who didn't declare on GOONS but paying reps to GOONS, so you are fine with them paying reps for as you say, having balls?
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KN isn't an alliance and even if it was, Methrage's actions are questionable at best. I doubt he'll be paying any reps anyway, just like 64digits won't be. There's no clause saying each alliance has to pay a certain amount, and I'm sure the glorious NPO banks will cover most of that so the tiny inconsequential alliances can focus on recovering.
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[quote name='Mergerberger II' timestamp='1304395909' post='2704679']
Indeed. They learned only that Pacifica played the game very, very well, and if they played the game in the same fashion, they could be just as successful. It is atrocious to watch the hope that was given to this world by Karma be exploited, twisted, and finally annihilated.
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NPO supported Karma?
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[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1304398921' post='2704778']
I love the new mentality of CN Politics "We dislike the strategy that you used because it made us take more damage than we expected when we made the plans to start the war, thus you will pay reparations to us."
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It is called "spoiled brat" syndrome.

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[quote name='Sardonic' timestamp='1304394837' post='2704641']
You know, I would have shaved 400m off the rep amount had you done that play.

Food for thought.
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You know I would have paid $800m not to write it. I'm paying $219m.

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[quote name='Kalasin' timestamp='1304398918' post='2704777']
The days where reps were only demanded in defensive wars are long gone. Like I said, I don't care enough anymore to give a damn about Cyber Nations morality. Doomhouse attacked NPO because they were bored and wanted a fun war and instead NPO hid in peacemode and NPO's allies attacked GOONS because they were too scared to take on anyone bigger. This pissed off Doomhouse (particularly GOONS) and these terms are the result.
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You do understand that there's a difference between "scared" and 2:1 tech advantage?

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[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1304398921' post='2704778']
I love the new mentality of CN Politics "We dislike the strategy that you used because it made us take more damage than we expected when we made the plans to start the war, thus you will pay reparations to us."
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That's not exactly new.

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[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1304398311' post='2704762']
Well atleast you've been paying attention to this war, it's not like [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=97858]KN declared on MK[/url] and you know [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=98289]NADCs declaration on MK/Umbrella[/url] must have been false, maybe [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=98288]TSI ment GOONS when they said MK[/url].

That's 3 alliances who didn't declare on GOONS but paying reps to GOONS, so you are fine with them paying reps for as you say, having balls?
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In order to apply some pressure to alliances to exit the war, MK began to apply tech contract terms to alliances it was engaged with that did not strike GOONS. During the collective bargaining, these terms were converted to simple cash reps in order to organize everything under one number that could be more effectively negotiated and redirected toward GOONS.

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[quote name='Tygaland' timestamp='1304399062' post='2704783']
It is called "spoiled brat" syndrome.
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It's called "everyone who attacked GOONs knew ahead of time they'd be paying reps so it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone and definitely not a point of complaint."
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