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I also prefer Ham over Turkey, Turkey is an inferior meat for those who hate flavor. Some would say pork is filthy, and perhaps it is, but its tasty. I think there might be a correlation. Every few years my parents will shell out and we'll have prime rib for Thanksgiving, but alas, this year it was just ham.

kill it with fire!

When I saw the blog post title, I was expecting something a little different... So Jesus and three nuns walk into a bar...

Fight the power!

[quote name='Jacapo Saladin' timestamp='1321231941' post='2844366'] Bro, go back through my post history and see if you can tell when we merged based on my posting style. Guessing you can't, and the fact that you have to resort to this argument is a sign that you have nothing. In other news; U mad. [/quote] That sounds like a lot of work to achieve something that I frankly don't give a $%&@ about. And yes, U mad is always a great argument to resort to, good work.

[quote name='Jgoods45' timestamp='1321206414' post='2844144'] If you think a treaty with TPF would deter us, you are mistaken. Furthermore, I was clearly NOT serious in my post. God damn, chill a little. [/quote] I was simply saying to anybody who might be interested in bullying TPC because of a perception of them being unknown, they are known to us, and we'll go to bat for them. I frankly don't give a $%&@ what would or would not deter you, TPF is not above and beyond doing foolish things, and while TLR and its great military might might not be touchable, I'd like to think it wouldn't exactly be painless. That said, I fully understood the message you were attempting to convey in your post. [quote name='Jacapo Saladin' timestamp='1321207291' post='2844154'] Look at the little guy flailing his arms around like that. [/quote] Thats rich coming from a guy who had to merge his !@#$ alliance into a group of 5 other alliances just so they could all feel big and relevant.

[quote name='Diabloz' timestamp='1321124121' post='2843802'] Being the kings of this planet i think we can [/quote] so what, who cares. no one cares what you do. seriously. [quote name='Jgoods45' timestamp='1321126125' post='2843821'] On behalf of the Orange Defence Network and her C&G allies, I must reject this apology and recognize the activation of the Mutual Defence AND Aggression articles of the C&G charter. You shall burn. [/quote] As TPF has a treaty with TPC, I think we might be very interested if you were to do so.

No, absolutely not. My nation has high tax rates, forces people into labor camps, routinely strips its people of their rights, and has been nuked around something like a hundred times. Leninland is truly, a terrible place to live. If we didn't have guards stationed at all the exits shooting anybody who tries to leave, I think its population would be much smaller.

[quote name='Artigo' timestamp='1320775415' post='2841727'] Man you can read us like a book [/quote] I looked at the cover.

Something something MK something something VE. Also, thought your post in that original topic would have been sufficient, but of course you guys need to make a bajillion topics to hog the attention you crave.

On behalf of TPF, congrats to Rayvon on his ascension, and congrats to youwish on his well deserved retirement. o/ New Sith Order may your future be bright and prosperous.

[quote]Bottom line, if your member raids us, we probably won't ask for reps or even bother chatting you up. We'll just get an angry mob together and steamroll the little punk who forgot to do his homework[/quote] I look forward with interest to seeing how this willl play out. Some alliances prefer to have a nice little chat before that sort of thing happens. I think its fair to say that some alliances are more then capable to putting together a larger angry mob then TGE might be capable of.

Possibly look at their protector Robster, I'm fairly sure there's somebody far worse than FEAR giving them guidance.Shhh uI'm sure menotah will be dealing with this disrespectful outburst. Portectorates should be seen and not heard untill they have proven they can behave and this lot deffinatly havn't Your alliance should disband. Some protectors treat their protectorates with a little more respect and allow them to act as a sovereign alliance. The protectors that don't obviously don't have the balls to really protect anybody. When USN produces a protectorate that actually turns out to be a success, perhaps your opinion would be valued higher in what protectorates should and should not do.

[quote name='Kzoppistan' timestamp='1319062771' post='2828824'] Was it truly a wrong that was done, RV? Or was it incompatible strategies in a forced coalition? You feel you were wronged because YOU didn't get what YOU wanted out of some one? And it cost you. So you blame others. Because the Legion didn't follow some haphazard plan constructed by the side that was lacking any coherent strategic command and already destined to lose, that is your real beef? [/quote] No, as somebody who, unlike yourself, was there and knows what happened, I can tell you that it was just Legion being a bunch of little !@#$%*es and taking the easy route out while others put it on the line to honor their treaties. Nothing less, nothing more. Perhaps if Legion hadn't known about the strategy and then changed their mind half-way in...

My mind wasn't made up about NPL, but thanks to this treaty, now it is. Congrats, I'm sure you deserve each other.

[quote name='Il Impero Romano' timestamp='1318821043' post='2826753'] Maybe there was a reason they downgraded, and a reason to no longer let SOS be ridiculous while hiding behind them. [/quote] Yes, that may be. I guess what I'm curious about is this, in the past RIA had allowed SOS to act ridiculously and to hide behind them. What changed? I don't know how SOS could possibly have become any more ridiculous over the course of the last few months.

[quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1318820273' post='2826728'] We downgraded. [/quote] That has like, absolutely nothing to do with it. Remember when SOS hit NsO and RIA was there saying that anybody who hit them would have to deal with RIA? Where is your eagerness for war these days?

One has to wonder if RIA will puff out their chests and stand behind SOS in this war endeavor as they did in SOS's last war. I'm doubtful. Also, its a terrible shame that this didn't come before Locke parted ways with SOS.

[quote name='Frederico Rodriguez' timestamp='1318595835' post='2824814'] I see the concept of irony is lost on TPF... well at least it will be by the way you guys are talking lol [/quote] Amusing, I'd like to say that the joke might be on GATO, however I think, more accurately, the joke [b]is[/b] GATO. I could also say that being a good alliance is 'lost' on GATO, but I'm not sure if GATO ever actually found it. These jokes kind of write themselves.

[quote]Then we would have to consider flattening you since you are in no way related to this war...[/quote] Would like to see you [b]try.[/b]

[quote name='Sabcat' timestamp='1317892907' post='2818275'] I find the behaviour of Tetris to be shameful, the NSO goading to be utterly transparent, the NsO support ill advised and don't get me started on IAA, I can't work out what the hell's going on with them. In the time honoured "do something about it" CN way I've switched AA to The Legion and started fighting. Sometimes you just can't stand by. [/quote] oh my god, who cares. I wish that there were more wars, and that people hadn't become !@#$%*^ and started doing the whole 'we're going to ask our allies to stay out of it'.

[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1317881410' post='2818140'] They are going to claim they want Legions allies to come in, then call legions allies !@#$%*^ for not coming in. They are retarded. Legion will NOT call in its allies because we know its going to be a curbstomp (NSO brings in MJ, Tetris brings in VE/SF/PB IAA brings in C&G).. what the $%&@ is left? No. We will take our beating, deal as much damage as we receive. Then position ourselves to be better prepared next time. [/quote] Your allies are !@#$%*^ for not coming in. Looking at you, Polar. Also, maybe people just want to inflict as much damage upon Legion as possible, not as if they don't deserve it.

[quote name='Spaarlaamp' timestamp='1317834265' post='2817152'] Lol, you don't know me [/quote] No, and yet I don't feel as if I'm missing out on anything. [quote name='Spaarlaamp' timestamp='1317834265' post='2817152'] As you know by now, the attack had been canceled before the target list was leaked. Europa has two reasons for being pissed: 1) They have a spy. 2) Mogar accepted spied info and acted on it. The second thing is reason enough to war someone over, that's nothing new. All the other stuff you mentioned is irrelevant to this situation. [/quote] If an attack has been cancelled, why do you not take the target list offline? What makes Europa so special that the rest of the world should be quiet when they neglect to protect their information adequately? Personally, I do not go out and solicit information like this, I do not ask for it, and I do not care if somebody gives it to me or not. If somebody tells me something out of the blue and I don't have an obligation to stay quiet about it, I won't act as if I do. I don't see why its Mogar's responsibility to keep his mouth shut, it should have been Europa's responsibility not to make it so easy to fall into Mogar's hands. As for the other stuff being irrelevant, that is the kind of mindset that undoubtedly makes you a great asset to your alliance. Better practices would have minimised risk and none of this would have ever happened, and that is very relevant.

[quote name='Spaarlaamp' timestamp='1317813888' post='2817004'] How does having a spy equal being stupid? [/quote] Let me spell this out in words that even you could understand. There are significant differences in the way Europa has/is handling this and the way my alliance and I would handle this. I'll elaborate on those below. 1) Generally speaking, we do not tell our general membership who we are attacking prior to 11:30 CN time the night of attack, much less link a target list. 2) If somebody leaks, the damage would be minimal due to such short notice. 3) If somebody leaks, we would find out who and we would hold [b]them[/b] accountable. 4) We wouldn't go around acting like a 'big tough guy' to cover up our failure/lack of foresight. So Europa says they expected better from their members, it sounds all nice and peachy and admirable, but I think it has been demonstrated to be exactly what it is, stupid. If you are serious about what your doing, you expect nothing more then the absolute worst case scenario. I guess Europa isn't serious about maximising their military ability, I guess they are more intent upon going around and telling people to 'come at them, bro', and hoping the brashness acts as a deterrent.

[quote name='Ernesto Che Guevara' timestamp='1317802477' post='2816947'] [b]Just to be crystal clear on this, Mogar is on our ZI list. Aiding him will be seen as an act of war. [/b] [/quote] [i]"We screwed up, so we're going to play Mr. Tough Guy and hope people forget about how stupid we were.[/i] -Europa Government You guys are a great alliance, don't ever change a thing!