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how funny that other people talk about others not understanding them being sarcastic when they themselves don't see the sarcasm of others, eh?

glad to have your vote of confidence. We do try

I don't see how that matters to you, being in peace and all...

It seems to me that the intentions of "The Bodybag" are truly known only by its creator. I've been assured that it was never the intention to offend or insult. As the Echelon Minister of Communications, who among many other duties is responsible for the oversight of alliance-related propagandas, I can tell you this, Echelon doesn't support propaganda that sets out to offend or insult. While I may not understand your objection fully, I apologize if you were offended and assure you that such was never the intention. Perhaps so, but whats ironic is that your profile says your a member of the New Sith Order. Whats funny about that is is how your throwing out all sorts of support to Karma, when your alliance is led by the individual who masterminded many of the tactics and deeds which fuel Karma's fire. Perhaps the high road doesn't belong to me, but I doubt it belongs to any of the Echelon bashers who relentlessly thrash us in threads like these. I'm simply human, I do the best i can. I play this game for fun, always have and always will. I try to play with honor and dignity, but nobodys perfect, I just do the best i can. Just a few short months ago, I likely would have been piling on Echelon just like you guys. I've played this game for an awfully long time, it'll be 3 years next week to be exact. I remember a time a little over two years ago where I was ZI'd at the hands of the New Pacific Order and her allies. I remember hating Pacifica so vehently as I watched as my first alliance, The National Alliance of Artic Countries disbanded. I recall wanting so badly to exact my revenge, to get even. As the time went on, I went through several alliances before I finally landed in Echelon. As times change, so do your friends, and as your friends change so do your enemies. Who's right and who's wrong in this game are all a matter of perception, As time goes on, your perceptions will change, and who knows, in 6 or 12 months, you might look back and be ashamed of your present actions (or maybe not, who knows?). When I see all these people go on about how "awful" Echelon is, I chuckle. I chuckle because these people don't know Echelon like i know Echelon, if they did we'd have people beating down the door to get in because we're seriously that awesome. I've only been in Echelon for 6 months now, and it doesn't phase me when people talk about what Echelon's done in the past. Its irrelevant, of all my time in cybernations, I've enjoyed my time in Echelon the most, the people in Echelon are great and make the game fun. At the end of the day, I think that counts for an awful lot. Sure, i guess it could be that, but since that was hardly mentioned aside from a breif sentence clear at the end, I almost missed that. Sure, he contends that the offer is open, but that clearly takes a backseat to the bigger message he tries to convey: That the leadership of Echelon doesn't care for its membership and that they favor a war that continues indefinately. As a member of Echelon's government, I know that such is nothing further from the truth. I have no doubt what-so-ever that NoFish's message was intended first and foremost as a direct insult to the Echelon leadership and his intention was to use "mind games" to weaken Echelon to acheive his personal goals. Echelon is not averse to paying reparations, we don't expect white peace, and we understand that such is simply part of the game. Its true that we've not come out of this war on top. The terms that were presented to Echelon tonight were unfair and a kick in a face. The leaders of Echelon were willing to come to the table and would have been conducive to reaching a solution which included fair and reasonable reparations. Being out of this war would be nice, but I agree with the conclusions of Echelon's represenatives at the peace talks that it isn't worth the unfair and unreasonable terms which were presented to us tonight. May everybody have a nice day, Even in the darkest of times theres never a reason to be uncivil. -mp

its no lie that some players of this game have no sense of humor. That particular propaganda was made completely in fun and games, and never has Echelon ever published any propaganda formed with malice aforethought. Echelon has always acted with poise and honor and tried to stay on the right side of the line of whats appropriate and whats not appropriate. To compare NoFish's actions with that of Echelon's The Body Bag are like comparing poodles and great bernards. There is no comparision. Regardless of what Echelon may have done in the past, we never sank to the levels of which NoFish did tonight, and besides, two wrongs never make a right, sinking down to their level makes you just as bad, etc. I can for one say that I'm very disappointed in NoFish's actions tonight and was saddened he stooped to this level.

I agree with Matt and support this message 100%. Echelon has never acted uncivil or without honor. We expected the same from all our opponents, however its clear that we expected too much of GOD.

yet another alliance against us? Wow, we must be uber popular (or else you all see us as a threat, in which case, who can blame you - we're awesome after all!)

you shouldn't have any problems with TDE, of their 225 nations they have a whopping total of 15 SDIs. They are essentially an alliance of nuclear weapon recepticles.

Assassins Order.... hmmm doesn't really ring a bell.... who are you again? I'll be looking forward to seeing you on the battlefields (if your brave enough to make it there).

I joined NAAC at the very close of the first great war, and was there with the brief exception of about two weeks right up until the end. Good times, certianly times that can never be forgotten. I've been in several alliances since then, ODN, FIST, Dark Fist, and now Echelon.

I demand a recount on the queen votes. Electron Sponge got jipped. anyway, it was a nice Ball. Hope you have many many more in the future.

hello AirMe, glad to see you again I guess i should give a question... how do you think the game is doing in terms of survival? fewer new members, etc makes for a static game, in your opinion, do you see any reason that the game might ever stop?

how is this correlating in any way to real life? In rl nations can alert people on the drop of a dime and its ok. this change is just unnessacary. I vehemently oppose this.