Laslo Kenez

[quote name='General Argent Doom' timestamp='1341137343' post='3001104'] Awesome, no one gives a belly rub and tickle quite like GATO does. [/quote] Plus, treats for good performance.

I agree there's too much whining. My issue with PM usage in this war is that it's a terrible strategy. You're preserving NS in the hope of a battle our side grows tired of, but you have achieved nothing. You preach this "Fungicide" stuff, but the damage to MK so far is laughable; if you want to stop MK being a relevant player, use your NS to take this medium term defeat and put a dent in them that reduces their political relevance. Don't just sit there in peace mode, hoping and praying we get bored of aiding our smaller nations.

[quote name='Scorponok' timestamp='1341052883' post='3000562'] Edit: double post Good to pass 6million on this auspicious occasion. How come people still think we are much smaller? [/quote] Dunno, but it'll be a nasty surprise eventually for them Best of luck, guys.

It's a shame you two couldn't work it out, but I think you were both put in a tough spot. Best of luck, App.

Excellent! My last guy stopped twitching. How come we end up fighting the two XX alliances we actually hold a conversation with now and again? Very strange

Always good to recognise our allies (but never, ever, Craig).

[quote name='KainIIIC' timestamp='1340912173' post='2999522'] yeah that was not what really happened. 1) GATO never entered onto Polar's coalition in the first place 2) the treaty was non-chaining, whereas TOP directly attacked ODN/Athens which WAS mandatory 3) the treaty was dropped by Omni, something that pretty much all GATOans disagree with how it went about 4) NSO left Brown because it was small and trades were incredibly hard to find (Silence, COIN, Rome and 57th had all disbanded), whereas we had allies and ex-allies on white, not to dis GATO. Sure, there were some grumblings during BiPolar (which dwarfed our anger against Grub) and after Omni cancelled the treaty (which mostly subsided when Omni joined a month later), but NSO for the most part does not hold any beef against GATO.. 'cept for Griff. [/quote] Said it far better than I could

[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1340908914' post='2999497'] Also alliance like GATO might not of gotten reps from TOP, but they did switch sides in the war as soon as TOP entered. Making sure TOP would be in a losing position where they would need to pay high reps, making them to blame for enabling these other alliances to get reps out of TOP much like NpO was blamed with enabling the reps from being taken from TOP. TOP's side lost due to alliances like them who thought TOP entering on their side made the war they were currently fighting not worth continuing, instead declaring on alliances in what they considered TOP's side while they aligned themselves with the winning side. [/quote] lol this is the biggest stretch I've seen in a while in regards to feuds Hey TOP/TSO, do you have a single bad word regarding our conduct defending ODN and Athens (two of our first three MDP partners post Viceroy) and then being one of the few alliances who took no reps at all?

[quote name='smurthwaite' timestamp='1340897626' post='2999363'] Looking back through this thread, I can honestly see where lots of the comments made here would reflect this. I think I personally have come off sounding, as you have pointed out, like I have a sense of entitlement. That wasn't and isn't my intention. I have been friends with the people in HB since I came to planet Bob. As individuals, I don't think there is a one who I wouldn't burn for...except Jache, because let's face it, nobody burns for Jache Please don't see this as a bunch of whining. That isn't the intention. [/quote] No worries, that does actually explain a lot, thanks for clarifying

[quote name='Hastein' timestamp='1340811503' post='2998389'] Truly a middle class neo-liberal perspective as far as not seeing how you contribute to the problem or [OOC]understand how you're guilty of what Zizek calls "racism light."[/OOC] [/quote] Haha, that's hilarious.

[quote name='King Wally' timestamp='1340887712' post='2999301'] Treatys are piss easy to activate when times are good, coalitions are winning and the spoils are there to be had. A real test of an ally though is to find yourself in something heavy and see how they react. Don't worry HB your far far from being an isolated case in this war, in fact this entire SF/XX front of the war was built apon this very notion of sidestepping an ally and rediverting commitments to guarantee a better outcome. It's just disapointing that your name had to be added to that list. Hell had you at least hit CSN I could of at least written it off as a fued war, but R&R? Seriously? I don't get it man. Worst part is I know a lot of you HB guys are pretty cool, changing sides/allys honestly doesn't bother me... [/quote] In what sense are they "changing" sides though - both Apparatus and GATO have gone in with aggressive action, HB decided they'd prefer to be over here rather than on a suicide charge on NG. They didn't sidestep anything. They don't owe SF/XX anything. I don't get where this entitlement to support comes from, other than apparently some friendships a long time ago?

[quote name='Scorponok' timestamp='1340844769' post='2998885'] Apparatus are fine folks and so are TOP. Have a bash fella's. [/quote] Sums it up quite nicely

[quote name='Phaedron' timestamp='1340836144' post='2998782'] The opposite of what you represent, I believe. [/quote] This is a meaningless series of statements, fyi. "You're a cumfiddler!" "What does that mean?" "Well, it's something I definitely am not, that's what." [quote name='King Wally' timestamp='1340836289' post='2998786'] Couldn't handle App hey NG... I think I gave you guys too much credit in backchannels by the sounds of it. [/quote] SF/XX Coalition: Enemies of tactical resource division, success, not getting beaten up.

[quote name='Garion' timestamp='1340835297' post='2998758'] I didn't state anything strange... HB is not on SF side and never has been (not complaining about this, mind... it's their choice). It's stupid to pretend otherwise. The thing I'm mostly disappointed in is the choice of the oA on R&R. I guess we deserved it. This said, the HB people I know are all nice and reasonable (apart for Jache), so I hope this war will be enjoyable for everyone. [/quote] We have a pretty friendly front going on, so one more face for that can't hurt

Enjoy the war, both of you.

[quote name='han fei zi' timestamp='1340779116' post='2998107'] [IMG]http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk57/H_a_n_88/furry.jpg[/IMG] I thought I'd give it a try. [/quote] Made me lol, anyway. Accusing HB of "side changing" is dumb. We were discussing our treaty for weeks beforehand while they still remained arguably closest to Legacy, and it is a big big stretch to "lay claim" because it fits your narrative.

[quote name='Mixoux' timestamp='1340735152' post='2997411'] Honestly? We're the ones getting attacked and we fully expected it. I have no idea why/what people are arguing over it. [/quote] Glad to hear it - I find it baffling that is apparently strange or distasteful for some reason.

[quote name='Pingu' timestamp='1340725217' post='2997293'] Their hate only makes us stronger. That's how evil we have become. I guess we won't be voted 'friendliest alliance' any more now that we're driving everybody away from Bob. [/quote] And you, you're the worst of all! With your impossibly high demand on fish stocks forcing people to look at moving away from Bob.

[quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1340729821' post='2997342'] For god's sake. [/quote] Honestly, give up, some people are incapable of even the most basic reading comprehension and thought processes. The NPO announcement, and then this declaration, is one of the most simple and open narratives to follow of this war, and people are still messing it up.

If you were referring to all of history, you were using the wrong tense. Apologies if English is a second language; if not, be embarassed.

[quote name='AndrewHG' timestamp='1340714455' post='2997149'] Have you checked? There are no cushy spots any more. We are down to 13k nations since 29k ish at karma. ODN simply adds support to the practical destructive nature of MK members and quickens the flight from Bob. We all now know the mentality- some gravitate to it in order to protect themselves and others stand up to it. CN has become far more toxic to new nations. My opinion but hey.. people who will dispute this will generally be the higher NS/longer standing people. This guys is one of the last few big wars. Regardless of funded owf haters we all have enjoyed the last 5 years, made some brilliant friends. We'll be here at the end in one form or another. [/quote] Choosing to make this personal with ODN would be a bad idea

As others have said, blatantly fake by virtue of the poster tags.

Ooh, vegan food. TLR are always the nicest

Sucks to be MCXA, will anything be left after the 5th consecutive rolling? Tune in next week!

Some points to consider for the slow of mind! 1) GOD and NPO dislike each other 2) NPO had a clearly identifiable policy about this war 3) GOD knowingly triggered that policy 4) If that policy weren't completely serious across the board, would NATO really be sitting without a counter right now? So. How is NPO the bad guy?