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  1. ChairmanHal

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    I have no inside knowledge of the detection methods, but I would speculate that more than just your log in credentials gets passed over to the server when you log into to your account. Same goes for the data coming back at you, which probably consists of more than just the content of the web pages.

    That said above in my comments, I don't want or need to know their detection methods. However, what I need is to be assured that whatever methods they are using don't result in "false positives", such that situations where two people are legitimately playing the game and obeying the rules about nation interaction on the same IP don't get zapped. Statements like "it's more art than science" or "there is an amount subjectivity to the process" should cause you concern. Frankly I'd rather be playing knowing that there are probably a few people running an extra nation than watch honest people being shown the exit.

    As for forum bans, your experience may be different, but when I think back to all the people who were "warned out of the game" those that were genuine problems were the exception, not the rule.

    A lot of what you are saying here is why I was like, "either a) tell us more about the methods so we can believe that you know beyond a reasonable doubt, or b) set up an appeals process that is simple for nations affected by this."

    Because I cannot for the life of me figure out a way they could possibly know with such certainty that someone was breaking this rule without physically witnessing them do it.

  2. ChairmanHal

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    I agree, the mods are erring on the side of even a shred of suspicion = multi. And warning those who discuss moderation issues when all they're doing is asking legitimate questions about how rules are enforced, and maybe making the not unreasonable claim that they are being enforced too harshly and not fairly, is just plain dumb.

    And there's also this. Seriously warning someone for having a lowercase character rather than an uppercase one is Kafkaesque, we're talking actual insanity here.

    In fairness, I wasn't warned for that thread, but I'm sure if I posted another, asking a related question, I would be.

    Keelah's response was pretty much the same bs they keep saying when someone asks about how they determine that. "It has to be apparent."

    Apparent to whom? And what defines apparent? And since when does apparent = beyond a doubt?

    Finally, why are they so adamant to refuse hearing out evidence of innocence.

    In the case of Walsh, per Xanth (who said he has seen the email from admin himself), Walsh was banned for operating multiple nations, and when Walsh offered to provide evidence the nations were operated by two separate people, he was apparently (see - apparent =/= certainty because I have not seen the communications myself) told he had to wait 6 months to appeal the ban.

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