Crowdog07 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 [quote name='PotFace' timestamp='1295986727' post='2600785'] So really what's heppened here, is that DH didn't declare war; the members of DH independently declared war against the same target at the same time. Gotcha. By the looks of things, I can understand why you'd be so confused as to what's going on here - you simply have no idea. [/quote] How does us attacking in coordination with our friends mean that we used treaties to go to war? And where is FAN in this? I know that DH has a treaty tying us together, but that treaty did nothing to spur this war. In fact, I believe that even if that treaty did not exist we would still be in this spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironchef Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 So someone forgot to put Dumb House down for a nap and they have a mass temper tantrum. Wah Wah Wahhhhhhhh we don’t like Planet Bob so where going to blow it up, Wah Wah Wahhhhhh look at us we are special we can do things tooooooooo. This is just pathetic Let us all remember the importance of nap time. MK at its best http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WeL5FQwOA4&feature=related [b]Don't tell me STOP IT!!![/b] GOONS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Afb0SiT-aY [b]I didnt die!!!!!![/b] Umbrella http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLKukwm9ODo&feature=related [b]Yes they even have a guide for this[/b] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwuss Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 [quote name='Beefspari' timestamp='1295986589' post='2600781'] War is supposed to be [i]fair[/i], Ktarthan. [/quote] HONOR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uaciaut Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Liking the hate itt. Hope all the senders will actually get together and manage to shape it in some intelligent way that would work to their advantage. Not holding my breath though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotFace Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Crowdog' timestamp='1295986900' post='2600788'] How does us attacking in coordination with our friends mean that we used treaties to go to war? And where is FAN in this? I know that DH has a treaty tying us together, but that treaty did nothing to spur this war. In fact, I believe that even if that treaty did not exist we would still be in this spot. [/quote] Did you really just say you're not here because of a treaty, and even if you were here because of a treaty, you'd still not be here because of a treaty? Edit: Even though you really are here because of a treaty.... Edited January 25, 2011 by PotFace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldConqueror Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Does anyone else find this vast torrent of butthurt coming from Crymson about being SHUNNED AS MEDIATOR two years ago hilarious, or is it just me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrenster Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 At least you guys are honest about your immorality, or amorality. Unlike others on your side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecthelion Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 [quote name='ironchef' timestamp='1295986926' post='2600789'] So someone forgot to put Dumb House down for a nap and they have a mass temper tantrum. Wah Wah Wahhhhhhhh we don’t like Planet Bob so where going to blow it up, Wah Wah Wahhhhhh look at us we are special we can do things tooooooooo. This is just pathetic Let us all remember the importance of nap time. MK at its best http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WeL5FQwOA4&feature=related [b]Don't tell me STOP IT!!![/b] GOONS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Afb0SiT-aY [b]I didnt die!!!!!![/b] Umbrella http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLKukwm9ODo&feature=related [b]Yes they even have a guide for this[/b] [/quote] You...seem mad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crymson Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) [quote name='PotFace' timestamp='1295986727' post='2600785'] So really what's heppened here, is that DH didn't declare war; the members of DH independently declared war against the same target at the same time. Gotcha. By the looks of things, I can understand why you'd be so confused as to what's going on here - you simply have no idea. [/quote] I guess this was also the case when seven alliances from a variety of different blocs simultaneously brought the boot down onto your alliance in the WotC, then, eh? Edited January 25, 2011 by Crymson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 [quote name='Wad of Lint' timestamp='1295928233' post='2597911'] Brilliant Political Move. I'm real glad I fought for you guys during Karma. I suppose this proves there is no right side. You always become the monsters you fight. [/quote] Or you figure out at some point that if you're real lucky, you make a few friends that you keep here on Planet Bob for the duration, find a descent alliance of buzzed up, casualty hungry Vikings to hang out with, and live by your own rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotFace Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 [quote name='Crymson' timestamp='1295987554' post='2600804'] I guess this was also the case when seven alliances from a variety of different blocs simultaneously brought the boot down onto your alliance in the WotC, then, eh? [/quote] Something like that would take coordination, wouldn't you say? Where ever there's coordination and cooperation, you've got yourself a team. Do try and keep up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironchef Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 [quote name='Ecthelion' timestamp='1295987359' post='2600801'] You...seem mad. [/quote] No far from it. I have not been this happy in years. To see a meltdown like this is epic and I have been laughing none stop all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 [quote name='GeoLauzier' timestamp='1295979869' post='2600547'] If NPO had changed they'd have joined in the fight. They didnt enter so they can preserve their power and they can rise in influence over CN. Had they entered, they'd have gained respect from me and after that war, even if we would probably still have faced them, their gained respect would allow them to rise in influence. They decided to hide to preserve their nation strenght and so we'll destroy them. [/quote] No, they wouldn't. More than likely they were [i]hoping[/i] their inaction would lead to this pre-emption. In wars, the defender has the advantage, such that the attacker must be of overwhelming force to overcome them. By forcing your hand like this, they gain the benefit of being the clearly defensive party, among other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steodonn Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 [quote name='ironchef' timestamp='1295986926' post='2600789'] So someone forgot to put Dumb House down for a nap and they have a mass temper tantrum. Wah Wah Wahhhhhhhh we don't like Planet Bob so where going to blow it up, Wah Wah Wahhhhhh look at us we are special we can do things tooooooooo. This is just pathetic Let us all remember the importance of nap time. MK at its best [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WeL5FQwOA4&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.c...feature=related[/url] [b]Don't tell me STOP IT!!![/b] GOONS [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Afb0SiT-aY"]http://www.youtube.c...h?v=6Afb0SiT-aY[/url] [b]I didnt die!!!!!![/b] Umbrella [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLKukwm9ODo&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.c...feature=related[/url] [b]Yes they even have a guide for this[/b] [/quote] I don't think its us that's having the temper tantrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecthelion Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 [quote name='ironchef' timestamp='1295987714' post='2600809'] No far from it. I have not been this happy in years. To see a meltdown like this is epic and I have been laughing none stop all day. [/quote] Well, as long as you're not mad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 [quote name='steodonn' timestamp='1295987761' post='2600811'] I don't think its us that's having the temper tantrum [/quote] The child(ish) never does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktarthan Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 [quote name='ironchef' timestamp='1295986926' post='2600789'] Wah Wah Wahhhhhhhh, Wah Wah Wahhhhhh [/quote] Oh dear does baby need a bottle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Catalyst Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 [quote name='Locke' timestamp='1295987741' post='2600810'] No, they wouldn't. More than likely they were [i]hoping[/i] their inaction would lead to this pre-emption. In wars, the defender has the advantage, such that the attacker must be of overwhelming force to overcome them. By forcing your hand like this, they gain the benefit of being the clearly defensive party, among other things. [/quote] but the attacker chooses the target so each member can attack someone weaker than themselves, which means each defender is overwhealmed? assuming the numbers are evenish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 [quote name='ktarthan' timestamp='1295986047' post='2600758'] And I didn't realize you are unable to follow simple logic, as I never said anything of the sort. [i]My[/i] bad. [b]MY POSITION, SIMPLIFIED[/b] [i]Attacking an alliance while it is weak is a solid strategic decision.[/i] [/quote] Yes, it is. His point was that NPO isn't the enemy as they aren't a threat, and that you're attacking a weakened alliance for the hell of it more than to bring about any change. You may hold a different opinion on that, but I think the majority of Bob has moved on from Karma by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowdog07 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 [quote name='PotFace' timestamp='1295987193' post='2600794'] Did you really just say you're not here because of a treaty, and even if you were here because of a treaty, you'd still not be here because of a treaty? Edit: Even though you really are here because of a treaty.... [/quote] No. I said we may have a treaty, but the treaty is by no means our cause for war. We know this because we would be in this same position even if we didn't have the treaty. Do we need to start bringing back Bob Sanders quotes, my goodness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 [quote name='The Catalyst' timestamp='1295987984' post='2600818'] but the attacker chooses the target so each member can attack someone weaker than themselves, which means each defender is overwhealmed? assuming the numbers are evenish? [/quote] I can see someone's never played politics before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Catalyst Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 [quote name='Locke' timestamp='1295988217' post='2600829'] I can see someone's never played politics before. [/quote] *facepalm* ive made 15 posts. work it out. <---FULL STOP OMGOMGOMG OMFG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniard United Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Weak. Nice to see the moral high ground remains intact ... oh wait. Really sucks cause I got stuck with GOONS tools instead of the MK @#$%. Couldn't even get someone relevant ... maybe I need to post here more often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotFace Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 [quote name='Crowdog' timestamp='1295988189' post='2600828'] No. I said we may have a treaty, but the treaty is by no means our cause for war. We know this because we would be in this same position even if we didn't have the treaty. Do we need to start bringing back Bob Sanders quotes, my goodness. [/quote] How convenient. Good luck convincing everyone of that. In the meantime, you guys have a reputation for being against the treaty web, but use it to wage war. That's something that's to be expected of MK... pretty standard. If you wanna be the class clown, be prepared to get called out for clownish activity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktarthan Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Locke' timestamp='1295988015' post='2600820'] Yes, it is. His point was that NPO isn't the enemy as they aren't a threat, and that you're attacking a weakened alliance for the hell of it more than to bring about any change. You may hold a different opinion on that, but I think the majority of Bob has moved on from Karma by now. [/quote] And you make the same mistake as the first guy who tried to argue his point. Here, I'll quote the original point for reference: [quote name='Darth Andrew' timestamp='1295978429' post='2600491'] Well said. If they were actually "saving the game," they would have attacked NPO long before this, and not waited like opportunistic !@#$%^&* until NPO was weak and without much support. [/quote] They are still saying that attacking NPO is consistent, just our timing is wrong. Edited January 25, 2011 by ktarthan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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