SiCkO Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 [quote name='goldielax25' date='11 February 2010 - 07:47 PM' timestamp='1265946428' post='2176349'] Well according to your charter, the Imperator decides on peace, not a vote. [/quote] and our Imperator made it clear that we were not surrenduring. Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watcher Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Remove my name from that document. I never signed it. I didn't even see it till this thread. -Watcher, Minister of Economics, The Legion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Xander the Only Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 No wonder Legion surrendered. They sound very unstable internally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King William IV Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Problem with all of your arguments is he got offline and as soon as he goes away power passes to LF. Meaning he is indeed in position of power, read the whole charter and don't just pick and choose what you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Savage Man Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 I always enjoy a Legion spectacle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Conrad Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Hey Legion, please understand your own charter next time. It would be greatly appreciated. From what I've gathered is that your Imperator sent out your MoFA to accept our offer of peace without knowing that if he's "away" he grants all remaining power to Lord Flingolfin (however you spell it). This is getting damned annoying dealing with your governments' inadequacies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrux Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 ok back to war fellas. [img]http://www.chucksconnection.com/waynesworld/wayne05.jpg[/img] Game on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincongrad Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 [quote name='goldielax25' date='11 February 2010 - 07:47 PM' timestamp='1265946428' post='2176349'] Well according to your charter, the Imperator decides on peace, not a vote. [/quote] This is correct. I am saying that having talked to Hubb and seen the results of the various votes, I doubt he intended his statement of white peace as anything other than a presentation of a hypothetical situation. Misinterpretation, anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 As the new ruler of the Legion I am going to have my alliance surrender. Good fight Sparta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joracy Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) [quote name='King William IV' date='11 February 2010 - 10:49 PM' timestamp='1265946593' post='2176368'] Problem with all of your arguments is he got offline and as soon as he goes away power passes to LF. Meaning he is indeed in position of power, read the whole charter and don't just pick and choose what you want. [/quote] If the top guy can make a decision, and the second in command can overrule it nearly instantly against the top guys wishes, then you have a serious command problem :| EDIT: As SOP of #legion, I declare #legion the official Legion channel. I believe the management of #legion will do an amazing job as the new leaders of legion, and bring Legion into a new era of prosperity. Edited February 12, 2010 by joracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watcher Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 [quote name='Matthew Conrad' date='11 February 2010 - 07:50 PM' timestamp='1265946657' post='2176376'] Hey Legion, please understand your own charter next time. It would be greatly appreciated. From what I've gathered is that your Imperator sent out your MoFA to accept our offer of peace without knowing that if he's "away" he grants all remaining power to Lord Flingolfin (however you spell it). This is getting damned annoying dealing with your governments' inadequacies. [/quote] I understand it just fine, that is why we are just about to veto the original order regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King William IV Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 [quote name='joracy' date='11 February 2010 - 10:51 PM' timestamp='1265946707' post='2176384'] If the top guy can make a decision, and the second in command can overrule it nearly instantly against the top guys wishes, then you have a serious command problem :| [/quote] The top guy never made said decision in the first place, he was clarifying what the offer was IMO. Also regardless of what the top guy says there is always more to the charter, such as: C: The Consulate has the power to overturn an Imperial Decision by at least a 3/4 vote. The vote must be set up no longer than 24 hours after the decision is made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandmdave Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) Wow, this was a pretty pathetic show Legion, but I'm sure you'll have plenty of time to get your house in order before the next round of talks start. Edited February 12, 2010 by wandmdave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme 142 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Lovely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watcher Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 [quote name='King William IV' date='11 February 2010 - 07:54 PM' timestamp='1265946840' post='2176397'] The top guy never made said decision in the first place, he was clarifying what the offer was IMO. Also regardless of what the top guy says there is always more to the charter, such as: C: The Consulate has the power to overturn an Imperial Decision by at least a 3/4 vote. The vote must be set up no longer than 24 hours after the decision is made. [/quote] Almost there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolfe2015 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 [quote name='Lincongrad' date='11 February 2010 - 10:51 PM' timestamp='1265946672' post='2176380'] This is correct. I am saying that having talked to Hubb and seen the results of the various votes, I doubt he intended his statement of white peace as anything other than a presentation of a hypothetical situation. Misinterpretation, anyone? [/quote] Look, people can flame me all they want, but I spoke with him, he agreed to white peace, he had to go, he sent Imperial to finalize the document, we all put sigs on it, we posted it. That's exactly how it went. If anything the one mistake we did was post before he cameback online, but we got the ok from Legion and her allies prior to posting this. I fail to see how this is an issue unless Legion plans to overrule its leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joracy Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 [quote name='King William IV' date='11 February 2010 - 10:54 PM' timestamp='1265946840' post='2176397'] The top guy never made said decision in the first place, he was clarifying what the offer was IMO. Also regardless of what the top guy says there is always more to the charter, such as: C: The Consulate has the power to overturn an Imperial Decision by at least a 3/4 vote. The vote must be set up no longer than 24 hours after the decision is made. [/quote] Well, if he did make that decision, and you want to use that clause, I'd make sure legion gets a vote set up ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennox Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 This is an interesting development. Especially with Legion in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watcher Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 [quote name='wandmdave' date='11 February 2010 - 07:54 PM' timestamp='1265946842' post='2176399'] Wow, this was a pretty pathetic show Legion, but I'm sure you'll have plenty of time to get your house in order before the next round of talks start. [/quote] Our house is great, that is why we are overturning this decision. If you have a problem with that, then take it to us in game. I would expect nothing less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincongrad Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) From Hubb on his phone posting on the Legion boards: [QUOTE]I'm on my iPhone right now. We have been in discussion all day. No member of this government gave permission for anything to be posted, as we were still in the discussion phase. Again, no final decision was made.[/QUOTE] As expected, misinterpretation by Sparta. Edited February 12, 2010 by Lincongrad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randalla Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Now if anyone wonders why Amazon Nation signed under protest, this sort of thing is only partially why. I will reserve further public comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NemaK Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 [quote name='joracy' date='11 February 2010 - 09:55 PM' timestamp='1265946903' post='2176403'] Well, if he did make that decision, and you want to use that clause, I'd make sure legion gets a vote set up ASAP. [/quote] We did, we had two polls set up for the GM. In both, an overwhelming amount of people voted no. This was nothing but a mis-communication. Veto vote is taking place atm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watcher Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 [quote name='joracy' date='11 February 2010 - 07:55 PM' timestamp='1265946903' post='2176403'] Well, if he did make that decision, and you want to use that clause, I'd make sure legion gets a vote set up ASAP. [/quote] As soon as I found out what was going on I called the Veto vote. Just waiting for people to vote. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Blitzer Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) [quote name='King Xander the Only' date='11 February 2010 - 10:49 PM' timestamp='1265946589' post='2176366'] No wonder Legion surrendered. They sound very unstable internally. [/quote] Well they've only had 2 peace agreements today they've backed out of Edited February 12, 2010 by Darth Blitzer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaGneT Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Just when you thought this war couldn't get any crazier . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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