Lincongrad

CSN stayed in to help out last war. We don't forget stuff like that.

But real talk guys, What is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger. Someone had to say it.

[quote name='Laslo Kenez' timestamp='1343943620' post='3017941'] Sorry, but that's absolute crap, the expectation was that we'd disband at a time when that's what most people did. And to be honest, the members who stuck it through the war and the Viceroy showed more character and fortitude in that time than you've ever shown, in all your many years of posting whatever you need to in order to make a terrible point. [/quote] We get trolled all the time for our NPO viceroyship. Good stuff, huh? Mad respect for sticking through it. Not too many people can understand what a viceroyship feels like when they haven't been through one.

[quote name='Varianz' timestamp='1343907419' post='3017813'] Just trying to make sure I understand correctly, your terms to Legion are 1 round of war with their upper tiers and a surrender?And they rejected that? Wow. That doesn't sound like the Legion I remember dealing with who were, despite their faults, fairly reasonable. [/quote] As I understand it we're refusing to exit without the rest of our coalition coming to terms. But I'm not in the negotiating room. Also I have no problem with GATO being called in. Applying additional pressure during negotiations is perfectly valid.

[quote name='Ernesto Che Guevara' timestamp='1343889200' post='3017774'] Too bad, stop sucking so much and win a war for once. [/quote] I could have sworn we did.

[quote name='Jrenster' timestamp='1343763839' post='3017332'] It's one nation. Hardly a decisive defeat for GATO, nor is it indicative of how the war is shaping in general. [/quote] Come on, everyone knows that since a GATO nation pulled out first, GATO may as well surrender to us unconditionally. Game over, man, game over!

Welcome to the fite, GATO!

This is fairly brilliant.

[quote name='Ardus' timestamp='1340498990' post='2993933'] I appreciate a good verbal smackdown of Legion as much as the next guy, but I fear we're drifting from the subject of the thread. Y'all gonna burn, NATO. [/quote] Well said. If anyone is actually interested in clarifying something or simply trash talking Legion feel free to message me and I'll do what I can.

Mad respect for GPA.

I think it's perfectly fine that LSF requests that INT stay out so INT stays out. It's LSF's business. I'm just wondering how many of the people supporting INT staying out were also screaming for Polaris et al to enter during the Legion-Tetris war. Just thought I'd put that out there.

[quote name='Banksy' timestamp='1339736725' post='2984488'] why would we communicate? we want to attack them duh [/quote] That's what this leads me to believe, yes. Several people supporting MK's side have been unclear in that respect, so I was confused.

[quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1339729691' post='2984290'] Dave has a convo with Rota. CSN puts Dave on ZI list. MK accepts Dave knowing he's on CSN's ZI list. CSN gov contacted MK. Argument over whether Dave spied or not ensued. MK then launched attacks on CSN. [/quote] Gotcha. Well that's a lot better than I thought, but I still dislike it because I think Dave93 is guilty. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

So I'm way late to the party, I know, but I have a question. Did MK tell CSN to back off and/or discuss this with CSN before declaring war? Apologies if this has already been covered earlier in the thread. Of the first 15 pages or so of the thread which I read, I saw a lot of posts about the defending side being hypocritical in that if an MK-aligned alliance did what CSN did then detractors of the current war would be expressing outrage. I feel like some would, but really the main concern I have with this war is the lack of communication. If MK had talked to CSN and told them to step off, I feel like MK would have much more of an argument here. They didn't (did they?), and so MK's actions are clearly simply expressing their desire to stomp CSN. CSN, of course, should have come and talked to MK, but the burden of initiating conversation falls on MK... any rogue can hop back and forth between AAs, as I seem to remember reading that Dave93 has done, and it seems to be that the bulk of the responsibility for communications to halt attacks falls on the alliance whose AA he is on, since the ones who have previously sentenced the ZI have a prior claim. In summation, it's not so much the attack as the communication issue that I see as MK's fault. Going to war over whether or not someone should be ZIed is one thing. I believe that Dave93 deserves his sentence, but that's not my main issue with MK's actions. Jumping the gun in terms of attacks displays a clear agressive motive, and that's the main problem I have. Another set of apologies if I'm being unclear, or if me not reading the entire thread has made me miss something. I have no qualms about retracting my statement.

[quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1336520829' post='2965314'] I've lurked on Legion's forums some and I noticed everyone likes ponies. Legion-UE treaty, anyone? [/quote] I'd rather be known for torturing small mammals for sport than be known as pony-enthusiasts. We keep trying to crush the movement but it keeps bouncing back.