PHDrillSergeant Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 (edited) Dearest people of the world, I am an old nation. I have been here for a long time, just minding my business. The other day I was attacked by [url=http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=182612]another nation[/url]. I had been away a few days so by my return there was little I could do. I sent a message petitioning that this other nation ceasefire, because I could not and would not return fire. There was not reason for innocent people to die. The nation replied saying it regretted the loss of lives, but it had its orders. It would send surrender terms asap. The next day I awake to find that this nation has dropped a nuclear weapon onto my people, killing countless innocent people and destroying the environment. And right afterwards, he sent surrender terms. Now at this junction I had already stated that I was ready to surrender. There was NO REASON to drop a nuclear weapon. So why would a nation do this? Is its leader simply a murderous killer? This was an unwarranted nuclear strike against a non-nuclear capable nation. So this leads me to this question: why do we, as alliances, treat every other alliance member on opposing sides as an enemy? If there are 100 nations in an alliance, and seven have offended you, why do the other 93 have to take the fire? I am not out there in world politics, and I am not a leader in my alliance. There is no reason for this kind of behavior, and it leads to needless bloodshed. I have been though six alliances, each one ending in war. I pray it will end. Porphyric Hemophiliac Prime Minister of [url=http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=40067]Galifrey Seven[/url] As afterthought: Donations to the rebuilding of Galifrey will be taken at the foreign affairs office in New New York. Edited February 8, 2010 by PHDrillSergeant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian LaCroix Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 The Green Protection Agency. Look into it. Also, this war isn't about TOOL offending people, it was about TOOL defending its allies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potato Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 (edited) I doubt you'll get much sympathy here. You're in an alliance for the good AND the bad times. You've enjoyed the protection they offer in times of war, you should accept the fight someone brought to your door. If you want to know why and who you are fighting, talk to your leaders, they'll be able to explain. If you just want to sit on your sorry $@!, growing your nation, you should join an neutral alliance such as GPA. Also, didn't you learn your lesson in Karma? You surrendered then too. Edited February 8, 2010 by potato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHDrillSergeant Posted February 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 I did join GPA. And then I was hit by nuclear weapons several times. In fact, When GPA ordered my nation to surrender, I did so and CONTINUED being attacked (this was later chalked up to a miscommunication). PH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred von Tirpitz Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 (edited) Did you join the GPA as in ask them if you could join and they said yes? Or did you decide to join them without their say so? In that case, i believe what they did to you is what is termed Ghost Busting. Anyways you are in TOOL now, and TOOL is part of a war, so TOOL nations would be fair game for all those at war with TOOL, same as TOOL is attacking the nations of all the alliances at war with TOOL. War, two way street, incoming and outgoing fire, both. Best you realize that it is nothing personal and it is just war. I will not comment on your desire to surrender. That is between you and your current alliance. [size="1"]edit: one miss-spelt word and such havoc in intent! Lordy!![/size] Edited February 8, 2010 by Alfred von Tirpitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHDrillSergeant Posted February 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 (edited) No, I joined GPA, went through their training. Became a full member. I didn't simply say "Look at me I'm GPA now". Don't insult my intelligence. When GPA was attacked, and I was hit with nuclear weapons, GPA ordered me to surrender to the enemy. Also, I'm obviously not surrendering NOW. After being hit with a nuclear weapon? are you kidding? PH Edited February 8, 2010 by PHDrillSergeant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred von Tirpitz Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 I apologize if my previous post came across as a slight to your intelligence. Such was not the intent of it. In hindsight, i should have realised it would seem rude since you obviously did state you were an old nation, and as such would know what ghosting and ghost busting was. Again, my apologies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchh Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 (edited) You changed your AA to LoSS PoW or something and then changed it back. If you are fighting only for yourself, I have no pity. Edited February 8, 2010 by mitchh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHDrillSergeant Posted February 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 I am a leader of a nation. I fight for my people's freedom. Pity me if you want. -PH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potato Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 No, you don't. You surrender for your people's freedom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHDrillSergeant Posted February 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 I have been around too long, surrendered too many times. I will not subject my people to being prisoners again. If I die, I die with knowledge that I gave my every last in defense of a nation of prosperity and kindness. Support my endeavor or don't but at least respect my love for the people of Galifrey. The time for running has ended. -PH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald Meanĕ Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 [quote name='PHDrillSergeant' date='08 February 2010 - 04:23 PM' timestamp='1265646232' post='2168782'] Now at this junction I had already stated that I was ready to surrender. There was NO REASON to drop a nuclear weapon. So why would a nation do this? Is its leader simply a murderous killer? This was an unwarranted nuclear strike against a non-nuclear capable nation.[/quote] Probably to ensure you do surrender. Do as much damage as possible, and sort out the rest afterwards. [quote name='PHDrillSergeant'] So this leads me to this question: why do we, as alliances, treat every other alliance member on opposing sides as an enemy? If there are 100 nations in an alliance, and seven have offended you, why do the other 93 have to take the fire? I am not out there in world politics, and I am not a leader in my alliance. There is no reason for this kind of behavior, and it leads to needless bloodshed. [/quote] Because when in a war with an alliance every member is an enemy. They can be the nicest guy in the world, but once war starts they'll be doing damage like everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin32891 Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 [quote name='mitchh' date='08 February 2010 - 11:54 AM' timestamp='1265648094' post='2168808'] If you are fighting only for yourself, I have no pity. [/quote] My feeling as well, go join a neutral alliance or quit crying you coward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weirdgus Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Posting in an epic thread. Thank you for putting smile on the faces of all the people in Gusandria, they really laugh at your pathetic whine over a single nuclear attack and are also amazed by the unwillingness of your countryman to stand up for any alliance and by extreme cowardice displayed by repeated hoping to other alliances as soon as war breaks out and they are needed the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinite Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Being the government of the alliance that was attacked by TOOL I can tell you seven of them didn't offend me. As a matter of fact, none have offended me (except Ikaru because he didn't attack me). Their ally (your ally) was attacked and they went to war in defense of their ally. Your story of continual cowardice on the other hand does offend me. Don't cower behind the walls of an alliance for protection from raiders and then abandon them as soon as they need you. Even now when are finally going to fight it isn't for anything larger than yourself. I pity you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flak attack Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Adrian LaCroix' date='08 February 2010 - 11:28 AM' timestamp='1265646482' post='2168786'] The Green Protection Agency. Look into it. [/quote] No, don't. GPA doesn't need cowards that won't fight when needed. Edited February 8, 2010 by flak attack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoLauzier Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Seems like TOOL is the perfect alliance for you, really. Stay there ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunterman1043 Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 (edited) War is war. Things happen. Move on. If you want peace, you can accept the individual surrender terms, but in order for them to be valid, you must keep within the terms. Since you went back to TOOL, seems like your nation is up for attack. Edited February 8, 2010 by Hunterman1043 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Co God Ben Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Just accept (and adhere to) the terms if you don't want to fight for your alliance. And might I suggest finding an alliance you are willing to fight for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heft Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaliph Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 what was the last war that tool won? by my memory they only won one war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Brendan Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 (edited) I would suggest you nuke your attacker 25 times than quit, but you don't even have nukes. Edited February 8, 2010 by Lord Brendan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantastico Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 [quote name='PHDrillSergeant' date='08 February 2010 - 10:23 AM' timestamp='1265646232' post='2168782'] The nation replied saying it regretted the loss of lives, but it had its orders. It would send surrender terms asap. The next day I awake to find that this nation has dropped a nuclear weapon onto my people, killing countless innocent people and destroying the environment. And right afterwards, he sent surrender terms. Now at this junction I had already stated that I was ready to surrender. There was NO REASON to drop a nuclear weapon. So why would a nation do this? Is its leader simply a murderous killer? This was an unwarranted nuclear strike against a non-nuclear capable nation. [/quote] Our planet is filled with demented nation leaders. The same thing happened to GPA members, too. Good luck finding peace and rebuilding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Chocolate Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 [quote name='PHDrillSergeant' date='08 February 2010 - 10:23 AM' timestamp='1265646232' post='2168782'] Dearest people of the world, I am an old nation. I have been here for a long time, just minding my business. [/quote] Very well written. Thanks. I hope things work out for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin32891 Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 [quote name='kaliph' date='08 February 2010 - 03:01 PM' timestamp='1265659264' post='2168987'] what was the last war that tool won? by my memory they only won one war. [/quote] Please explain how this is relevant to this situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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