Bad JuJu Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Thank you TSO! Lets get that party going! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Cato Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Hopefully TSO and CNG will kill each other off =P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banned Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I see a lot of talk in this topic about "why declare on an entire bloc?" What everybody should realize, is that in the case of C&G, it's not like if you declare on an ally of IRON and are expecting IRON to get into the fight. I mean, if you declare on a C&G alliance, there's integrity there, and a sense of urgency. They will be at your doorstep. It would be different if you were declaring on an ally of TOP or IRON because you could expect to wait 7-30 days while they decide if honoring their treaties is worthwhile. (see also Karma War, TPF Conflict) In that case, you could do a lot of damage to one party before their allies would come to do anything about it, but such is not the case with C&G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltoi Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I see a lot of talk in this topic about "why declare on an entire bloc?" What everybody should realize, is that in the case of C&G, it's not like if you declare on an ally of IRON and are expecting IRON to get into the fight. I mean, if you declare on a C&G alliance, there's integrity there, and a sense of urgency. They will be at your doorstep. It would be different if you were declaring on an ally of TOP or IRON because you could expect to wait 7-30 days while they decide if honoring their treaties is worthwhile. (see also Karma War, TPF Conflict) In that case, you could do a lot of damage to one party before their allies would come to do anything about it, but such is not the case with C&G. Other than the dig at TOP and IRON, I agree completely. Declare on one, declare on all is the way we viewed it. Good luck to you and yours. also, lolfran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchman Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I see a lot of talk in this topic about "why declare on an entire bloc?" What everybody should realize, is that in the case of C&G, it's not like if you declare on an ally of IRON and are expecting IRON to get into the fight. I mean, if you declare on a C&G alliance, there's integrity there, and a sense of urgency. They will be at your doorstep. It would be different if you were declaring on an ally of TOP or IRON because you could expect to wait 7-30 days while they decide if honoring their treaties is worthwhile. (see also Karma War, TPF Conflict) In that case, you could do a lot of damage to one party before their allies would come to do anything about it, but such is not the case with C&G. That is one way to spin it. The truth isC&G as a bloc wanted this war. In the words of Crymson, "This is a war they have brought upon themselves." It is fascinating that C&G members will act as a bloc to harm our TOP brothers, but then complain when their entire bloc is forced to pay the consequences. o/ Paradoxia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I don't see CnG complaining. More - what's the word? - celebrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lafiel Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 (edited) We don't run from the end of the world. We CHARGE! TSO hereby activates the Concordia Compact and declares war on the Complaints and Grievances Union. Emperor José Jessejames SleepiB I wonder why TSO entering this war By declaring against C&G because according to Concordia Compact Article V: Optional AggressionShould one signatory be involved in offensive action, the other signatory has the option, but not the obligation, to come to the aid of the former by any means the latter deems fit. they had no obligation to enter the war Against C&G but they could argue that they had obligation to enter the war against the alliance such as Dark Fist ,AirCastle and Aloha Edited January 30, 2010 by Lafiel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Certainly, ODN cannot be among them. o/ TSO No we are pretty stoked actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltoi Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I wonder why TSO entering this war By declaring against C&G because according to Concordia Compact they had no obligation to enter the war Against C&G but they could argue that they had obligation to enter the war against the alliance such as Dark Fist ,AirCastle and Aloha This is correct, we had no obligation but rather a strong desire. win-win for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scutterbug Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 That is one way to spin it. The truth isC&G as a bloc wanted this war. In the words of Crymson, "This is a war they have brought upon themselves." It is fascinating that C&G members will act as a bloc to harm our TOP brothers, but then complain when their entire bloc is forced to pay the consequences. o/ Paradoxia Crymson is a paranoid leader, and has let their paranoia seal his own fate. Seriously he thinks C&G/SF were plotting against TOP. So instead of seeing if its not true he allows C&G to openly do it by declaring first. All i see in this war is TOP/IRON being oppurtunistic and damn right suicidal in declaring against a whole bloc. Any of your allies activating their MDP's in order to defend you now will also be burning to rubble. This war will go down in history alright. Will be noted as the pre emptive paranoid strike. Just a shame to see some of the smaller alliances being dragged down by Crymson the puppet master. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raasaa Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 (edited) Certainly, ODN cannot be among them. o/ TSO Congratulations to TSO for proving your naysayers wrong. As far as I'm concerned, this is a damned good way towards earning back the honor you lost in the noCB War.. So your basically agreeing that what they did was dishonorable......so then why did your alliance protect them ?? What the hell is it with you and TOP channeling your inner Chris_Kaos and declaring on an entire bloc? Suicidal, happens every once in a while when an alliance has been hoarding infra and hasnt fought a proper battle in years Does this mean Polaris can finally roll TSO? Not only Polaris, they just declared war on an entire bloc of treaties.....they will not know who is going to hit them and from which direction. Heck, alliances which are supposed to be on their side might go rogue and jump to the CnG side of this war. This is correct, we had no obligation but rather a strong desire. win-win for everyone. completely agree, win-win for everyone Edited January 30, 2010 by raasaa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banksy Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 That is one way to spin it. The truth isC&G as a bloc wanted this war. In the words of Crymson, "This is a war they have brought upon themselves." It is fascinating that C&G members will act as a bloc to harm our TOP brothers, but then complain when their entire bloc is forced to pay the consequences. o/ Paradoxia Yes, everything Crymson says is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriekfreak Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 (edited) That is one way to spin it. The truth isC&G as a bloc wanted this war. In the words of Crymson, "This is a war they have brought upon themselves." It is fascinating that C&G members will act as a bloc to harm our TOP brothers, but then complain when their entire bloc is forced to pay the consequences. o/ Paradoxia Protip: You might not want to quote Crymson, cause quoting Crymson is like quoting Bush, that he is a leader of something doesn't make him intelligent, or literate. Edited January 30, 2010 by kriekfreak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banned Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 (edited) Other than the dig at TOP and IRON, I agree completely. Declare on one, declare on all is the way we viewed it. Good luck to you and yours. The facts were presented in my statement. If that's a dig at anybody, then it was brought about by the actions that those alliances have taken and not by the twisting of any facts. TOP and IRON aren't exactly known for their sense of urgency in honoring their treaties. Glad to see that there are alliances in that treaty web that do value their allies enough to step up. Sad that others in that treaty web would not be so quick to support them on the other end. Edited January 30, 2010 by Banned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style #386 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 (edited) TSO managed a whopping three wars against ODN before the first ODN declaration against them. Certainly, ODN cannot be among them. o/ TSO I'm digging it. I'm pretty sure the retaliation will trump their finger. Or just break it off. Edited January 30, 2010 by Style #386 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lebubu Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 IRON and TSO are the only alliances I genuinely dislike so it's nice to see them lined up for annihilation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrideAssassin Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 (edited) IRON and TSO are the only alliances I genuinely dislike so it's nice to see them lined up for annihilation. Couldn't do it last time, won't do it this time. get a new hobby, aye? Unless failure is what floats your boat. Certainly, ODN cannot be among them. o/ TSO ODN is an Alliance? lol Coulda fooled me. Onward TSO! Fitting name! Let's rain fire! Edited January 30, 2010 by PrideAssassin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style #386 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Couldn't do it last time, won't do it this time. get a new hobby, aye? Unless failure is what floats your boat. ODN is an Alliance? lol I've got to say, you are one of the top to bottom least coherent posters on these forums. Good job sir, someone's got to be the worst, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denial Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Oh, how I've been waiting for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diogenes Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 That is one way to spin it. The truth isC&G as a bloc wanted this war. In the words of Crymson, "This is a war they have brought upon themselves." It is fascinating that C&G members will act as a bloc to harm our TOP brothers, but then complain when their entire bloc is forced to pay the consequences. o/ Paradoxia "CnG wanted this war" *links to TOP declaring war on CnG* *is watchman* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrideAssassin Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I've got to say, you are one of the top to bottom least coherent posters on these forums. Good job sir, someone's got to be the worst, right? And you're one of the most gutless Alliances on Bob. Any questions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio II Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 This is one of those beautiful occasions where both sides are happy with the result of this war dec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George the Great Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 And you're one of the most gutless Alliances on Bob. Any questions? If you were hoping to deflect what he said, I'm sorry to inform you that you merely bettered his case. :| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Diorno Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 (edited) And you're one of the most gutless Alliances on Bob. Any questions? It took IRON 5 days and an attempted cancelation to enter the Karma war. It took 7 days and a lot of planning to defend your ally TPF in the TPF war. Now after 3 days of not defending NSO, IRON is stupid enough to declare war on an uninvolved bloc of alliances and you are suddenly filled with bravado that ODN lacks? Don't make me laugh, IRON is the most pitiful alliance that ever existed, you make GGA look like a team of star players. Go back to being the lapdog, maybe when TOP dies you can latch onto MK and be our little lapdog IRON. yap. yap. yap. EDIT: oh and i forgot this Edited January 30, 2010 by Jack Diorno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrideAssassin Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 It took IRON 5 days and an attempted cancelation to enter the Karma war. It took 7 days and a lot of planning to defend your ally TPF in the TPF war. Now after 3 days of not defending NSO, IRON is stupid enough to declare war on an uninvolved bloc of alliances and you are suddenly filled with bravado that ODN lacks? Don't make me laugh, IRON is the most pitiful alliance that ever existed, you make GGA look like a team of star players. Go back to being the lapdog, maybe when TOP dies you can latch onto MK and be our little lapdog IRON. yap. yap. yap. Right, so ODN was tired of being the lapdog of a lapdog? rofl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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