Official Pacifican Announcement: Regarding Midway

[iamthey]

"Viniland and Tahoe as of present are the only two foreign nations which have been permitted to retain colonial holdings within the pacifican sphere. To this point we have held that it would be socially irresponsible to disrupt the present regimes reigning over Midway and Hawaii alike as they are tempered with many years of consistent and stable administration. However, with the recent fall of Viniland, and thus its Midway administration, we now are issuing a declaration of intent to assume administration of Viniland's former Midway holdings. While we are accepting of Tahoe's already established regime over Hawaii, we are not prepared to see them expand into midway.

Knowing Tahoe's feelings on colonialism, and their own anti-colonial policices we assume they will be understanding of this position, and will be ready to cooperate with our government in a formal turnover of the islands (midway)." - Thomas Devereaux, High Magistrate

Edited January 29, 2010 by iamthey

[Bacharth]

"Well, this is a change," Keith said while reading over an internet news article.

"What's that?" Vince replied.

"Seems Greater Pacifica is calling Tahoe out for Colonialism."

"Really. Well, we'll see how this ends."

[Californian]

"The Northern Republic has no position on the ownership of colonies however Midway remains a protectorate of Tahoe. With Greater Pacifica's longtime peaceful presence in the Pacific I'm sure a solution can be worked out."

[Sarah Tintagyl]

"This is an interesting move by our Pacifican allies and will cause the balance of power in the Pacific Ocean to shift. It is my belief that the powers in play. Ourselves, the Tahoeans, and the Pacificans will act as respectable nations and make sure that this issue is completely worked out. The Ocean must stay crystal clear for many years to come."

-HRH Hannah Asgeirsson

[Manetheren]

This is unfortunately unacceptable.

Midway is currently a Tahoan protectorate housing a large Vinilandese Military establishment. We have yet to deal with the former Vinilandese military, and thus the soldiers and all their hardware remains. We are dealing with a severe humanitarian crisis at the moment and Pacifcan attempts to stir up trouble will be looked on with the utmost concern. That said, Midway will remain in Vinilandese, now Tahoan, hands for the forseeable future. Discussion about the peaceful future of the Pacific is welcome from Tahoe to all our Pacifican neighbors.

[iamthey]

This is unfortunately unacceptable.

Midway is currently a Tahoan protectorate housing a large Vinilandese Military establishment. We have yet to deal with the former Vinilandese military, and thus the soldiers and all their hardware remains. We are dealing with a severe humanitarian crisis at the moment and Pacifcan attempts to stir up trouble will be looked on with the utmost concern. That said, Midway will remain in Vinilandese, now Tahoan, hands for the forseeable future. Discussion about the peaceful future of the Pacific is welcome from Tahoe to all our Pacifican neighbors.

We have no interest in stirring up trouble which is why we have chosen to begin with diplomatic means. However we need to begin this process at some point, and making it clear that there will not be a permanent Tahoan presence at Midway is a chief concern. If you are worried about the vinilandese military hardware, our nation is more than willing to supply manpower and resources needed to demilitarize the island, we have no interest in the military equipment of the former administration. If your problem is humanitarian then that is only more of a reason for allowing us to secure the island as our own stability and resources will prove more than sufficient to handle the issues and needs of the island. Your nation gains nothing through resisting us on this. We have respected your presence at Hawaii, and we have refrained from interfering in continental affairs, we ask for the same courtesy here.

[Centurius]

The Holy American Empire due to having 2 friends involved on opposing sides declares complete neutrality on the issue and offers Foundation as neutral haven for a peace conference.

[Sir Keshav IV]

"Tahoe talks about America is for Americans, It's time someone else talks for their region. We are happy to see this nation fighting for equal rights as Tahoe."

[king of cochin]

The Kingdom of Cochin finds merit in Greater Pacifican claims to Midway Island to being unity to the Pacific Islands. We hope Tahoe would respect their own ideals of non colonialism in non American lands and withdraws from Pacific Ocean islands as Greater Pacifica has already demonstrated their forbearance in recognizing Tahoean influence in Hawaii islands.

[Imperator Azenquor]

"The government of Vauleyo-Buryatia watches the events with concern, however we are unable to take a definitive position at this juncture as we do not have all of the background information regarding the situation."

[iKrolm]

Selenarctos supports Greater Pacifica's steps to secure the pacific for pacificans.

"Viniland and Tahoe as of present are the only two foreign nations which have been permitted to retain colonial holdings within the pacifican sphere.

OOC: Pravus/Italian Federation has Guam too.

[iamthey]

OOC: Pravus/Italian Federation has Guam too.

OOC: True, but I was referring more to foreign powers allowed to own territory in the pacific as well as administrate civilian populations. Guam has zero cvilian presence and is only under lease. GP retains sovereign claim to the island itself. On the other hand midway is a territory with both a civilian presence and more importantly is at present a legal asset of tahoe.

IC: "We thank those who have offered their words of support, and thank those nations who are allies with both ourselves and tahoe, we respect your neutrality in this affair. We will reiterate once more our desire that this does not come to conflict; at this point, how this proceeds rests entirely upon Tahoe." - Thomas Devereaux, High Magistrate

Edited January 29, 2010 by iamthey

[Manetheren]

Tahoe is as much a Pacifican nation as any other with territory on the Pacific Rim. Midway is geographically much closer to North America than any continent. Midway was uninhabited until the twentieth century. Thus is will become a wildlife reserve just like the rest ofthe extensive Hawaiian chain (other than the main islands of course).

[Fizzydog]

"NTR doesn't care because we are on the Atlantic. Hahahahahaha. "

[Justinian the Mighty]

"NTR doesn't care because we are on the Atlantic. Hahahahahaha. "

Was that supposed to be a joke is the NTR made up of idiots?

[Voodoo Nova]

Was that supposed to be a joke is the NTR made up of idiots?

"They tend to think that making their voices heard by the big boys will make them a big boy as well. As to the matter at hand, we are withholding comment at this time and hope that our ally and Tahoe come to a diplomatic solution."

[Fizzydog]

"They tend to think that making their voices heard by the big boys will make them a big boy as well. As to the matter at hand, we are withholding comment at this time and hope that our ally and Tahoe come to a diplomatic solution."

"I was pretty sure you guys would ignore me, oh well. NTR does have interest and know it will effect them, so yes, you can say it was a joke AND we are imbeciles."

[Michael McBride]

**CLASSIFIED**

All forces on Guam are currently moving to high alert and DEFCON 3. However, defense and building projects will continue as usual.

[Rhodesia]

"Considering the previous ruling that it would be acceptable for both Tahoe and Viniland to retain colonial holdings in the Pacific, while also considering both were Pacific states, and finally considering that Midway is being held in conjunction with all other Viniland holdings in a protectorate for the Vinilandese, we personally do not see a problem with Tahoe's retention of Midway under its protectorate. Strike at us if you will, it is merely our opinion. It will not change the proceedings, nor would we expect it to."

-General Rhodes

[iamthey]

Tahoe is as much a Pacifican nation as any other with territory on the Pacific Rim. Midway is geographically much closer to North America than any continent. Midway was uninhabited until the twentieth century. Thus is will become a wildlife reserve just like the rest ofthe extensive Hawaiian chain (other than the main islands of course).

"If you intend to decommission existing infrastructure, and evict the civilian population then I see no reason why you should even wish to retain the island as it would offer no benefit other than a label on the map to your nation. That being said this rational doesn't satisfy us. As for your claim to status as a pacifican nation this is also inadequate. Culturally your nation is American-Centric, and views itself firmly as a continental American Nation. Using your own legal understandings of what constitutes an american nation lets keep in mind that your definition is so firm that it to you disqualifies Greenland from being considered American. Greenland as a nation considered itself American, it further shed its foreign holdings, and diplomatic associations with europe to establish this. You on the other hand firmly consider yourself American, you have only extra-pacific diplomatic ties, and the vasts majority of your holdings are outside of the Pacific. To pre-empt your argument further we are not a pacific rim nation, our mainland territory of New Zealand is geographically located on the pacific plate, culturally we are pan-pacifican, and legally we have a long established stewardship over the Pacific, in other words, we are a pacific nation. While we have tolerated your presence on Hawaii, we will not abide by an expansion on your part." - Thomas Devereaux, High Magistrate

*Classified*

The Navy of Greater Pacifica, and its Military/Air-force force have been placed on high alert. A naval task force and a troop of 600,000 Soldiers and 6000 armored units are presently being gathered and transported to the diversified outposts in and around johnston's atol.

*Private*

Devereaux sat in contemplation, he had a personal adversity to war, but it appeared Tahoe would remain uncooperative. Turning to his personal accountant and lawyer, William Blake he at last sighed. "Draw up an ultimatum give them forty-eight hours to comply." Blake nodded and left the room.

"Considering the previous ruling that it would be acceptable for both Tahoe and Viniland to retain colonial holdings in the Pacific, while also considering both were Pacific states, and finally considering that Midway is being held in conjunction with all other Viniland holdings in a protectorate for the Vinilandese, we personally do not see a problem with Tahoe's retention of Midway under its protectorate. Strike at us if you will, it is merely our opinion. It will not change the proceedings, nor would we expect it to."

-General Rhodes

It was acceptable because the two regimes were already firmly established. Now one has fully collapsed and Tahoe has to move in and establish another. There is no net benefit to allowing Tahoe this expansion because intrinsically it will cause just as much upset for GP to establish its own administration over the island.

Edited January 30, 2010 by iamthey

[DeSchaine]

**Private**

As DeSchaine read his briefings on the matter, he shook his head and chuckled. "Vultures" He said. "That country hasnt even been down that long and they're already trying to carve it up. Disgusting."

**Official Statement**

Considering that before they left, the V-land government asked Tahoe to take stewardship of their holdings with an intent to return, and that both nations are old and well established nations, we see no reason for anyone to be at odds with the way things are being handled. Especially when it appears that Tahoe has NO intention of annexing the holdings for their own use.

[comrade nikonov]

The Federal Union of Slavic Republics recognizes the sovereignty of Tahoe over the Midway Islands as a protectorate.

[Zoot Zoot]

New Canada recognises Tahoes Sovereignty over the Midway Islands as a protectorate and offers Tahoe assistance if diplomacy breaks down.

[iamthey]

**Official Statement**

Considering that before they left, the V-land government asked Tahoe to take stewardship of their holdings with an intent to return, and that both nations are old and well established nations, we see no reason for anyone to be at odds with the way things are being handled. Especially when it appears that Tahoe has NO intention of annexing the holdings for their own use.

Simply because Tahoe has guaranteed that they will not annex the territory means very little. Go back to their original acquisition of Hawaii, they gave their strong assurances of merely maintaining it as a protectorate. They expounded upon how the native population would be incompatible with the Irish Tahoan population, and assured us of self determination. Weeks later they proceeded to annex it, exile political dissidents, and colonize it with their own Irish ethnic majority. As for the V-Government returning, what is this a monarch going on holiday? Thats not how things work in this day and age. Their government fell, Tahoe a close ally and neighbor took stewardship of their mainland, an admirable move, however they have no business establishing further colonial holdings in the Pacific.

OOC: I don't know what arrangement was made between mudd and v implicit or explicit, but if there was one it was ooc. IC there are no assurance that the V government will be returning in the foreseeable future.

[Centurius]

Perhaps it would be mutually beneficial to agree to a compromise? For example, Tahoe will be authorized to keep Midway as their Protectorate however observers from Greater Pacifica will be appointed to make sure they do not annex it?