Krath Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 it seems Ivan's memory isn't as good as he claims Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earogema Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 All fine alliances. To glory my friends! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 That doesn't make any sense. MK fought in a number of wars and Karma was the first victory. That in itself means they were not just collecting stats because they were willing to sacrifice their alliance on multiple occasions. Not really. The other wars were in situations were they believed themselves to be going in with an advantage, whether that proved true or not. In the Karma War the initial stage was not so certain and the stigma against taking on the big bad NPO was strong. It took quite a bit to build up to that point. I didn't state that MK had never fought in a war. Please read what is stated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Stark Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 No, my memory is quite good. It took MK two years to build up the resolve to do what it did in the last big war, and I believe that was your very first win ever. Good job. So the fact that MK was on the losing side of multiple wars before Karma makes us stat collectors? I don't follow your logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandwich Controversy Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Not really. The other wars were in situations were they believed themselves to be going in with an advantage, whether that proved true or not. In the Karma War the initial stage was not so certain and the stigma against taking on the big bad NPO was strong. It took quite a bit to build up to that point. I didn't state that MK had never fought in a war. Please read what is stated. Yes, MK went into noCB thinking we had a massive advantage. That is exactly what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowbeast Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 (edited) Not really. The other wars were in situations were they believed themselves to be going in with an advantage, whether that proved true or not. In the Karma War the initial stage was not so certain and the stigma against taking on the big bad NPO was strong. It took quite a bit to build up to that point. I didn't state that MK had never fought in a war. Please read what is stated. Yeah like in the NoCB war. We were utterly SHOCKED to see that the side we chose was vastly outnumbered. EDIT: F U babyj Edited January 25, 2010 by Snowbeast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flak attack Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 (edited) No, my memory is quite good. It took MK two years to build up the resolve to do what it did in the last big war, and I believe that was your very first win ever. Good job. Probably has to do with the fact that we don't run as soon as the people that have stood by us are in trouble. You wouldn't understand anything about that, though. Not really. The other wars were in situations were they believed themselves to be going in with an advantage, whether that proved true or not. In the Karma War the initial stage was not so certain and the stigma against taking on the big bad NPO was strong. It took quite a bit to build up to that point. I didn't state that MK had never fought in a war. Please read what is stated. You nailed it. MK went into the NoCB thinking they could take NPO, TORN and their friends, all at the same time. Edited January 25, 2010 by flak attack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earogema Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Don't forget UJW all you MK members, you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendoftheSkies Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Good luck Stickmen. Have fun out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Ah, so you found me out, I was absent for over a year and might have missed one. Good show. Regardless, it makes no difference. MK has gone on and on about Polar acting out of their supposed world view and have gone out of their way to try to police the world because now that they have the authority, by God they are going to use it. Well you know what, screw that. I don't give a damn about MK or its agendas and I don't operate under fear of them attacking me because I don't tow their line and you know what I get for that? A bunch of people following me around because they don't have anything better to do that to tell me that I can't do things my own way. Well, do something about it. If you are so gung ho to make me shut up then do it. Oh, that's right, you won't. Because as usual the Cyberverse is full of cowards that don't actually like to take part in the aspects of the world that make it fun, they just want to sit back, collect a few more alliance points and !@#$ talk those of us actually trying to enjoy it for what it was meant to be. You have truly illustrated why I have always considered you to be LUE 2.0. Good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Stark Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Indeed. An alliance (three alliances overall) with a much higher average NS found more targets available to them against an alliance of over 400 nations. What a surprise. For all the talk from your leadership in private about wishing to remain neutral and complaining about Polar getting involved in \m/'s business you MK people sure do like to spout off about things that don't concern you. Hypocrisy is not surprising. The lack of a declaration to back it up is somewhat. NSO: 51 Wars – 184 members Stickmen: 104 Wars – 203 Members There were more targets NSO could have hit. The success of update blitzes really reflect on the quality of leadership tbqh. And that's not even considering the fact that NSO launched with what... 30 mins until update? lolol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zekarde Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 o/ Stickmen! This should be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 NSO: 51 Wars – 184 members Stickmen: 104 Wars – 203 Members There were more targets NSO could have hit. The success of update blitzes really reflect on the quality of leadership tbqh. And that's not even considering the fact that NSO launched with what... 30 mins until update? lolol. No. Quite frankly the ability to organize the logistic aspects of a war have very little to do with leadership. Aside from that, the average NS of those alliances is higher than ours and we do not have many nations in the upper ranges. Most of our nations do not have targets in range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpdogg Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Here I was thinking that whoever surrenders lost the war. Apparently success in war is only measured by the time to update from when you post your DoW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earogema Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Ah, so you found me out, I was absent for over a year and might have missed one. Good show. Regardless, it makes no difference. MK has gone on and on about Polar acting out of their supposed world view and have gone out of their way to try to police the world because now that they have the authority, by God they are going to use it. Well you know what, screw that. I don't give a damn about MK or its agendas and I don't operate under fear of them attacking me because I don't tow their line and you know what I get for that? A bunch of people following me around because they don't have anything better to do that to tell me that I can't do things my own way. Well, do something about it. If you are so gung ho to make me shut up then do it. Oh, that's right, you won't. Because as usual the Cyberverse is full of cowards that don't actually like to take part in the aspects of the world that make it fun, they just want to sit back, collect a few more alliance points and !@#$ talk those of us actually trying to enjoy it for what it was meant to be. You have truly illustrated why I have always considered you to be LUE 2.0. Good job. You probably shouldn't attempt to talk about history if you don't know it. And btw: MK doesn't attack who their allies consider friends. NSO will be safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozenrpg Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 NSO: 51 Wars – 184 members Stickmen: 104 Wars – 203 Members Come on now, war = peace and blah blah blah something something darkside something something complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krath Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 you know you could at least COUNTER our attacks..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Come on now, war = peace and blah blah blah something something darkside something something complete. Your alliance, just like anyone else, is welcome to declare on NSO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 you know you could at least COUNTER our attacks..... iFOK declared on NSO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shovel Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 No. Quite frankly the ability to organize the logistic aspects of a war have very little to do with leadership. Aside from that, the average NS of those alliances is higher than ours and we do not have many nations in the upper ranges. Most of our nations do not have targets in range. No, organisation is not down to the leadership. It just spontaneously happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NationRuler Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Well, do something about it. Wow. Never heard that one before. Got some new material lately, Moldavi, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Wow. Never heard that one before. Got some new material lately, Moldavi, huh? Yeah, but when I say it everyone runs away or makes snide comments. Amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krath Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 no one has countered. i wasn't talking to you directly, a general statement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 no one has countered. i wasn't talking to you directly, a general statement Ah. Odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamazlilmistake Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 My boys... Welcome to the party o/ STICKMEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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