Dochartaigh Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Because NpO is attempting to tell us to do it. If Grub really wants peace all he needs to do is let us self regulate the issue. That's it, no owf drama about half assed statements and such. We're \m/ in case you haven't noticed we generally dislike others telling us how to run our affairs. again, that is all fine and dandy, but you need to get your membership to stop offering invites to the passerbys and gawkers then. That only applies to individual raids. Group raids fall under the discretion of the triumvirs. Though I will be making the effort to ensure we don't raid alliances, as quite simply to me it gets things way more complicated then it needs to be. thank you for the clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godwin Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 (edited) This crap has gone on long enough... From both sides. If we can all agree on SOMETHING here, it's that there is a huge error in the interpretability of the section of our charter dealing with wars. If we concede that point, apologize for it, and fix it, and NpO concedes that they will no further badger us about that, then can we end all of this drama? The actual war is great, but all the crap on the forums spanning more than TWENTY THREADS across all sorts of places and from all sorts of completely uninvolved people is getting to the point where I'm embarrassed to even be a part of this community as a whole, never mind any individual group. My point is, we $%&@ed up, you $%&@ed up, a bunch of people who should have been neutral $%&@ed up. Is there really any more to it than that? Can't we just call it a mistake of epic proportions, all stop whining about it, and go back to smashing in each-other's faces without the drama? Edited January 26, 2010 by Godwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald Meanĕ Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 again, that is all fine and dandy, but you need to get your membership to stop offering invites to the passerbys and gawkers then. Yea that's one of the arguments I never enjoy seeing people use regardless. As prodding people to take action generally gets them to take action. thank you for the clarification. No problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dochartaigh Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 This crap has gone on long enough... From both sides. If we can all agree on SOMETHING here, it's that there is a huge error in the interpretability of the section of our charter dealing with wars. If we concede that point, apologize for it, and fix it, and NpO concedes that they will no further badger us about that, then can we end all of this drama? The actual war is great, but all the crap on the forums spanning more than TWENTY THREADS across all sorts of places and from all sorts of completely uninvolved people is getting to the point where I'm embarrassed to even be a part of this community as a whole, never mind any individual group. My point is, we $%&@ed up, you $%&@ed up, a bunch of people who should have been neutral $%&@ed up. Is there really any more to it than that? Can't we just call it a mistake of epic proportions, all stop whining about it, and go back to smashing in each-other's faces without the drama? oh my god, i can actually agree with Godwin on this. though i hope by fixing the charter, he means to ensure no more raiding of alliances. but still... Yea that's one of the arguments I never enjoy seeing people use regardless. As prodding people to take action generally gets them to take action. most of the time, nope. it usually just causes more threads. this time, someone did take action though and it was invited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penkala Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Your like minded friends who didn't budge an inch to say boo? Unlikely they will do much. So then who? I will tell you simply, in the absence of anyone else who is prepared to move on something without a massive groundswell of public support, me. Looks like someone was a bit off base on their predictions. Way to drag your allies into a nuclear inferno over your ego, Grub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehChron Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Looks like someone was a bit off base on their predictions. Way to drag your allies into a nuclear inferno over your ego, Grub. Don't try and act like you aren't happy to see it happen. =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Savage Man Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 I would love to put an end to the drama because it is, in the end, pointless. But it's a pipedream, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dochartaigh Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Looks like someone was a bit off base on their predictions. Way to drag your allies into a nuclear inferno over your ego, Grub. do not forget that it is \m/'s ego that also started this war. tis amazing that this is all being put on Grub, when \m/ is as much to fault for it with their diplomatic prowess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodemofi-NPO Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 I would love to put an end to the drama because it is, in the end, pointless. But it's a pipedream, unfortunately. Bahahahaha, you've had the power to end this from the start. It's hilarious that you're trying to make it look like it's not your fault though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmightyGrub Posted January 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Looks like someone was a bit off base on their predictions. Way to drag your allies into a nuclear inferno over your ego, Grub. Hi You can not honestly read that sentence that way and claim to have passed Grade 2. Go away and read it again or I shall taunt you a second time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaytonG Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 This crap has gone on long enough... From both sides. If we can all agree on SOMETHING here, it's that there is a huge error in the interpretability of the section of our charter dealing with wars. If we concede that point, apologize for it, and fix it, and NpO concedes that they will no further badger us about that, then can we end all of this drama? The actual war is great, but all the crap on the forums spanning more than TWENTY THREADS across all sorts of places and from all sorts of completely uninvolved people is getting to the point where I'm embarrassed to even be a part of this community as a whole, never mind any individual group. My point is, we $%&@ed up, you $%&@ed up, a bunch of people who should have been neutral $%&@ed up. Is there really any more to it than that? Can't we just call it a mistake of epic proportions, all stop whining about it, and go back to smashing in each-other's faces without the drama? i can agree to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zessa Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 This crap has gone on long enough... From both sides. If we can all agree on SOMETHING here, it's that there is a huge error in the interpretability of the section of our charter dealing with wars. If we concede that point, apologize for it, and fix it, and NpO concedes that they will no further badger us about that, then can we end all of this drama? The actual war is great, but all the crap on the forums spanning more than TWENTY THREADS across all sorts of places and from all sorts of completely uninvolved people is getting to the point where I'm embarrassed to even be a part of this community as a whole, never mind any individual group. My point is, we $%&@ed up, you $%&@ed up, a bunch of people who should have been neutral $%&@ed up. Is there really any more to it than that? Can't we just call it a mistake of epic proportions, all stop whining about it, and go back to smashing in each-other's faces without the drama? You know what, I entirely agree with you. (Anything I say is not the official position of the New Polar Order.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrie Melodies Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 do not forget that it is \m/'s ego that also started this war. tis amazing that this is all being put on Grub, when \m/ is as much to fault for it with their diplomatic prowess. Do you dispute it was Grubs DoW that started this war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmightyGrub Posted January 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Do you dispute it was Grubs DoW that started this war? I do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruHartBrakN Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Hello Grub. You are still my favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kulomascovia Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 This crap has gone on long enough... From both sides. If we can all agree on SOMETHING here, it's that there is a huge error in the interpretability of the section of our charter dealing with wars. If we concede that point, apologize for it, and fix it, and NpO concedes that they will no further badger us about that, then can we end all of this drama? The actual war is great, but all the crap on the forums spanning more than TWENTY THREADS across all sorts of places and from all sorts of completely uninvolved people is getting to the point where I'm embarrassed to even be a part of this community as a whole, never mind any individual group. My point is, we $%&@ed up, you $%&@ed up, a bunch of people who should have been neutral $%&@ed up. Is there really any more to it than that? Can't we just call it a mistake of epic proportions, all stop whining about it, and go back to smashing in each-other's faces without the drama? I'm afraid I don't understand. You stated that \m/ and NpO made a mistake but instead of rectifying that mistake you're suggesting that they destroy themselves over it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heft Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Looks like someone was a bit off base on their predictions. Way to drag your allies into a nuclear inferno over your ego, Grub. Grub has done everything correct, and if we must fight in order to defeat the shallow pettiness of those he sought to correct, then we are glad to do so. Joyous, even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earogema Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 (edited) Bahahahaha, you've had the power to end this from the start. It's hilarious that you're trying to make it look like it's not your fault though. We go along with an attack our enemy makes, and we're crazy for fighting? Oh boohoo. EDIT: The hypocrisy is strong in me Edited January 26, 2010 by Earogema Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dochartaigh Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Do you dispute it was Grubs DoW that started this war? from what i have read and heard it was a logical conclusion given the situation it sprang from. since \m/ was part of that situation as was Polaris, i would state that both of ya'll started this war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrie Melodies Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 from what i have read and heard it was a logical conclusion given the situation it sprang from. since \m/ was part of that situation as was Polaris, i would state that both of ya'll started this war. If I were to argue against this it would not pass the straight face test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrie Melodies Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 I do Without that flowery declaration you posted there would be no war, that is fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zessa Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Without that flowery declaration you posted there would be no war, that is fact. Without that uncouth raid your alliance performed there would be no war, that is fact. Godwin is correct. (Not the official position of the New Polar Order) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliph Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Without that uncouth raid your alliance performed there would be no war, that is fact. Godwin is correct. (Not the official position of the New Polar Order) Without Polar getting involved in that tech raid when all the involved parties in the tech raid had already reached a solution there would be no war. This war is here because Polar wanted to hit \m/. No more, no less, and nothing \m/ could have done would have stopped it. This war occured because Polar wanted it, that was clear if you had paid attention to his demands from the start. We do not, nor will we ever, bow to Polar or accept another alliances sovereignty over us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proko Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 (edited) This crap has gone on long enough... From both sides. If we can all agree on SOMETHING here, it's that there is a huge error in the interpretability of the section of our charter dealing with wars. If we concede that point, apologize for it, and fix it, and NpO concedes that they will no further badger us about that, then can we end all of this drama? The actual war is great, but all the crap on the forums spanning more than TWENTY THREADS across all sorts of places and from all sorts of completely uninvolved people is getting to the point where I'm embarrassed to even be a part of this community as a whole, never mind any individual group. My point is, we $%&@ed up, you $%&@ed up, a bunch of people who should have been neutral $%&@ed up. Is there really any more to it than that? Can't we just call it a mistake of epic proportions, all stop whining about it, and go back to smashing in each-other's faces without the drama? You're far too intelligent and inspired to be \m/ leadership. Please tell me you're \m/ leadership. Edited January 26, 2010 by Proko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kulomascovia Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 You're far too intelligent and inspired to be \m/ leadership. Please tell me you're \m/ leadership. What is intelligent about destroying each other over a recognized mistake? I don't get why people are hailing that post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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