neneko Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I never said I didn't support or won't defend mhawk. Quite the contrary actually, I think mhawk is a great leader. You can't both support him as a leader and at the same time claim you shouldn't have to take responsibility for the action he takes for your alliance. Either you support him or not, you apparently do wich is great but it's not athens or anyone else responsibility what your leader does. Ultimately it falls down on TPF as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buds The Man Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) ****removed as little one managed to repost it LOL amazing what a 17 month old can do with a computer these days ************* Edited December 31, 2009 by Buds The Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Flinders Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Yeh, because I think he is lying. Exactly. It will likely be your new rallying cry now that the CB has been played to death and more or less, universally accepted. From a tactical point, it makes sense. From a motive point, it makes sense. Which calls the logs into question even more so, in an intelligent mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbacher Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 You can't both support him as a leader and at the same time claim you shouldn't have to take responsibility for the action he takes for your alliance.Either you support him or not, you apparently do wich is great but it's not athens or anyone else responsibility what your leader does. Ultimately it falls down on TPF as a whole. What about this new lovy dovy era of peace and understanding the karma war was supposed to bring in. Guess that all was a lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acca Dacca Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Exactly. It will likely be your new rallying cry now that the CB has been played to death and more or less, universally accepted. From a tactical point, it makes sense. From a motive point, it makes sense. Which calls the logs into question even more so, in an intelligent mind. "Intelligent mind" key word. Hiya Flinders, how are ya? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamerlane Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Oh the irony of certain people's comments in this thread is killing me inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neneko Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 What about this new lovy dovy era of peace and understanding the karma war was supposed to bring in. Guess that all was a lie. First of all I don't remember anyone promising that. Second, what does that have to do with not wanting to take responsibility for the actions of your leader? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anu Drake Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 That's turrible. Just turrible. I thought you'd find is smashing. We all shine on, baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbacher Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) First of all I don't remember anyone promising that.Second, what does that have to do with not wanting to take responsibility for the actions of your leader? There is a difference between not wanting to and not willing to. I don't want to get rolled because your buddies thought some bs was a valid cb, but I will get rolled if I need to, because I support my leader. Don't question my loyalty you chump, I was zied in the KARMA was like pretty much everyone else in TPF. Edited December 31, 2009 by jimbacher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzptm Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 So this has now become the Drama War... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shurukian Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I don't have the time, or effort, to read 16 pages, so If someone has asked this already, I apologize. Is there a reason, that even when you subtract the two hours, the timestamps don't match up? And has either of them provided proof that the other doctored the logs, other than their word? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neneko Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) There is a difference between not wanting to and not willing to. I don't want to get rolled because your buddies thought some bs was a valid cb, but I will get rolled if I need to, because I support my leader. Don't question my loyalty you chump, I was zied in the KARMA was like pretty much everyone else in TPF. I don't doubt your loyalty to TPF. You did claim that the general membership shouldn't get punished for what your leader did though. The way I see it as long as you stay in your alliance you're responsible for the actions of your leader, wether you want to or not. I don't have the time, or effort, to read 16 pages, so If someone has asked this already, I apologize.Is there a reason, that even when you subtract the two hours, the timestamps don't match up? And has either of them provided proof that the other doctored the logs, other than their word? No proof either way has been given by either side. The whole discussion has pretty much been about the burden of proof (wich both sides naturally claims is on the other side). Edited December 31, 2009 by neneko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buds The Man Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 So this has now become the Drama War... but of course dont they all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred von Tirpitz Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) nvm, need to learn to read better. Edited December 31, 2009 by Alfred von Tirpitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Flinders Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) "Intelligent mind" key word. Hiya Flinders, how are ya? All my words are key words !@#$%^. I'm having a grand old time. Can't you tell! It's like the NoV war all over again but people are actually listening to me this time. *edit The "b" word with an "a" thrown in there is filtered? Lame. Edited December 31, 2009 by Captain Flinders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred von Tirpitz Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 All my words are key words !@#$%^. I'm having a grand old time. Can't you tell! It's like the NoV war all over again but people are actually listening to me this time. You assume, people didn't listen to you then? Maybe most didn't, so it would seem as if no one did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilkenny Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I don't have the time, or effort, to read 16 pages, so If someone has asked this already, I apologize.Is there a reason, that even when you subtract the two hours, the timestamps don't match up? And has either of them provided proof that the other doctored the logs, other than their word? prob is a reason, but then that comes down to who you believe altered the logs. Each side is going to believe their guy is the trustworty one. Given the number of Edited/altered logs surfacing these days, who knows what is real and what is fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilrow Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Wonder if Hoo got his diploma from Ironchef's School of Log Manipulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Flinders Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) You assume, people didn't listen to you then? Maybe most didn't, so it would seem as if no one did. It was a cold dark time. I think it might have almost made me jaded. *edit "cold dark" sounds better. Edits are fun. Edited December 31, 2009 by Captain Flinders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Strider Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 In an earlier Conversation between Hoo and Warbuck, he stated something to the effect of; you better get off of aqua, you have no friends here." To me it is not too farfetched that he went a little bit further in telling people they need to leave the game. Combine that with being emotionally unstable and cocky, I think it is very likely that line is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shurukian Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) prob is a reason, but then that comes down to who you believe altered the logs. Each side is going to believe their guy is the trustworty one.Given the number of Edited/altered logs surfacing these days, who knows what is real and what is fake. ...Did this serously become 16 pages over a basic no u match of who has a more trustworthy player? There seems to be equal proof on either side, and unless new conversations and amazing screenshots of admissions pop up, I don't think we'll have a change. I figured there had to be something else hidden in these pages somewhere ._. Edited December 31, 2009 by Shurukian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Lee Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 There is a difference between not wanting to and not willing to. I don't want to get rolled because your buddies thought some bs was a valid cb, but I will get rolled if I need to, because I support my leader. Don't question my loyalty you chump, I was zied in the KARMA was like pretty much everyone else in TPF. you need to get rolled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilkenny Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 ...Did this serously become 16 pages over a basic no u match of who has a more trustworthy player?There seems to be equal proof on either side, and unless new conversations and amazing screenshots of admissions pop up, I don't think we'll have a change. I figured there had to be something else hidden in these pages somewhere ._. There is something hidden in here...do you feel it taking over your mind??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerichoholic Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I don't have the time, or effort, to read 16 pages, so If someone has asked this already, I apologize.Is there a reason, that even when you subtract the two hours, the timestamps don't match up? And has either of them provided proof that the other doctored the logs, other than their word? Not everybody has their clocks synced up. Unless you sync them regularly (at least weekly) they can start to run a few minutes away from each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Niagara Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 fake logs are fake...everyone must agree with Hoo... or you may be next. Honestly Hoo, even I know of the resentment towards CDT from my NATO days. I really don't think tbh these logs are fakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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