murf666 Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 o/ GGA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCRABT Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Saves me the trouble of pestering ODN to cancel this B) Nice of you to clarify who pulls the strings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grossman Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Well, to be honest, it does help that I own the old GGA Forums, and also Degenerate messaged me earlier to find out the history of the treaty so I had already looked it up. Helps who you or GGA? You could just let them have what should be GGAs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenex Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Nice of you to clarify who pulls the strings He said it saves him the trouble of pestering us. He never said anything about forcing us. So who pulls the strings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Helps who you or GGA? You could just let them have what should be GGAs. I could see more of an issue if it were their current forums, but considering that it's an archive... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iotupa Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 This is the smartest thing I've seen GGA do in two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataduanes Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Nice of you to clarify who pulls the strings I thought it was common knowledge that we are sycophantic followers of MK's lead B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Mango Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Best of luck to our allies in GGA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkerNinja Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I thought it was common knowledge that we are sycophantic followers of MK's lead B) Did you clear that with MK before you posted it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der_ko Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 This is the smartest thing I've seen GGA do in two years. Didn't GGA give you the boot around two years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataduanes Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Did you clear that with MK before you posted it? Lets just say MK have given me carte blanche B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) Nice of you to clarify who pulls the strings I don't think I've ever had any love for GGA and even when I was in GR I had bugged Arsenal about the treaty with ODN. This was something personal, not representative of MK, though I won't hesitate to admit that the majority of MK feels the same way. Then again, which of ODN's allies does have positive feelings for GGA? Obviously what I said leaves it very open for interpretation, and you took advantage of that but I don't think either of us will change our views. Just thought I'd let you know my reasons for saying what I did anyways. Edited December 9, 2009 by Drai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iotupa Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Didn't GGA give you the boot around two years ago? Yeah, that's about the time they stopped making good decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIEIXIAIS Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Good move GGA. Good luck to both parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffron X Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Yeah, that's about the time they stopped making good decisions. Your ego is impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iotupa Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) Your ego is impressive. Well I'm certainly not saying that that was the first of their bad decisions, it's just a good point on the timeline around which things started going south. However, I was attempting to move the GGA away from the NPO at the time I was kicked out, which certainly would have saved them from a number of problems they've faced since then. Edited December 9, 2009 by Jonathan Brookbank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flak attack Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Yeah, that's about the time they stopped making good decisions. I could have sworn that happened between GW1 and GW2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iotupa Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I could have sworn that happened between GW1 and GW2. In my experience that seems to be a common belief of members of MK. I certainly don't hold that against you, it is your opinion and you are welcome to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coursca Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 I wonder if the demonstration of disrespect you show towards an alliance you were allied to 3 days ago is either symptomatic of low self-esteem, patent by being allied to someone you seem to have such low consideration for and with whom, judging from your post, you should have probably cancelled the treaty much earlier, or if you're you're just being a jerk for whatever reason.In either case, I have no reason to love GGA but, I was under the impression ODN was aiming to conduct themselves by higher standards overall. Considering the particular source of the comment you refer to, its entirely unsurprising. Meh. Anyway, I digress...this move makes sense given the gradually increasing distance between ODN and GGA's alliance ties. However, it is always unfortunate to see such a long-standing document dissolved. I believe the treaty was at least two years old -- it was here when I first got here. Probably even older. Cheers to my old allies in GGA. Best of luck. :beer: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Looks like GGA didn't want to be associated with ODN's new C&G-centric FA direction. Interestingly, GGA is surprisingly isolationist these days. Its only major ally is IRON. Hopefully their increased independence (not from ODN particularly, just the general situation) will help them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style #386 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 (edited) Looks like GGA didn't want to be associated with ODN's new C&G-centric FA direction.Interestingly, GGA is surprisingly isolationist these days. Its only major ally is IRON. Hopefully their increased independence (not from ODN particularly, just the general situation) will help them. To clarify... Once upon a time, not so long ago, I tried to upgrade our treaty with GGA. That failed miserably, and the consensus within ODN turned against GGA. When they learned of our intent to vote on cancellation, they took advantage of our slower, democratic process and canceled first. Given what could be perceived as jerking them around, I don't blame them. Edited December 10, 2009 by Style #386 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caffine Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 To clarify... Once upon a time, not so long ago, I tried to upgrade our treaty with GGA. That failed miserably, and the consensus within ODN turned against GGA. When they learned of our intent to vote on cancellation, they took advantage of our slower, democratic process and canceled first.Given what could be perceived as jerking them around, I don't blame them. Well this should be interesting, considering I know the real reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poobah Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 To clarify... Once upon a time, not so long ago, I tried to upgrade our treaty with GGA. That failed miserably, and the consensus within ODN turned against GGA. When they learned of our intent to vote on cancellation, they took advantage of our slower, democratic process and canceled first.Given what could be perceived as jerking them around, I don't blame them. This would have been a great post if it had used something...what's the word? Oh, factual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerbum Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 (edited) This would have been a great post if it had used something...what's the word? Oh, factual. Actually, my dear friend Poobah, everything that my Secretary General has said is factual. Well I'm certainly not saying that that was the first of their bad decisions, it's just a good point on the timeline around which things started going south. However, I was attempting to move the GGA away from the NPO at the time I was kicked out, which certainly would have saved them from a number of problems they've faced since then. Actually, I beg to differ. The GGA may not even be around today if it weren't for the fact that it stuck by NPO. Of course, we can argue about 'maybes' all day, but that's just my opinion. Edited December 10, 2009 by soccerbum879 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joracy Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 This would have been a great post if it had used something...what's the word? Oh, factual. Well, your post certainly would! Thats exactly how things went. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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