Starfox101 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Oh yes, Bilrow, you're the right guy to be calling someone out for being jerks. No hypocrisy at all, here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedj Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Oh yes, Bilrow, you're the right guy to be calling someone out for being jerks.No hypocrisy at all, here. exactly, dont we keep hearing that NPO is stalling on their rep payments? As the song goes "Little less talk and alot more action" tl;dr version: meet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iotupa Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Oh yes, Bilrow, you're the right guy to be calling someone out for being jerks.No hypocrisy at all, here. Starfox, as someone who has had their points attacked based on who you are, you should be the LAST person I see on here dismissing a message solely because it comes from a certain person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilrow Posted December 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 (edited) Oh yes, Bilrow, you're the right guy to be calling someone out for being jerks.No hypocrisy at all, here. You could say I'm an expert at noticing it, obviously. exactly, dont we keep hearing that NPO is stalling on their rep payments? As the song goes "Little less talk and alot more action" Not the topic of this thread, but we have meet our minimum requirements every month as outlined per the Terms. If you would like to discuss it more, feel free to open your own thread. Edited December 2, 2009 by Bilrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime minister Johns Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Oh yes, Bilrow, you're the right guy to be calling someone out for being jerks.No hypocrisy at all, here. Nice Tu quoque logical fallacy. This issue is still valid regardless of who raises it. And attacks on the person who raised the question are not answering the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moridin Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 I am sure if there is a problem with how quickly reparations are being paid that members of Ni are more than capable of bringing this issue to everyone's attention on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twizzler Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 While I'm quite unhappy with the reason this was brought up (I'm sure it has nothing to do with Bilrow caring about the Knights of Ni!) the issue itself does concern me. They said they'd pay reps, now they need to pay them. Starfox, as someone who has had their points attacked based on who you are, you should be the LAST person I see on here dismissing a message solely because it comes from a certain person. Nice Tu quoque logical fallacy.This issue is still valid regardless of who raises it. And attacks on the person who raised the question are not answering the question. [OOC]This thread is making me want to smash my head into my desk. [/OOC] The question has already been answered. Negotiations are still ongoing. Reps will be paid after the negotiations and the final amount is settled on. I don't give a damn that its Bilrow saying it, I give a damn that this is still being discussed and the same damn question is being repeated over and over and over without anyone noticing that it has already been answered.. Yes, we can all say Bilrow made a good point (if not agreeing with the method). The question was promptly answered. So.. what exactly are we talking about now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsoxbronco1 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 I didn't call the OP a character attack. I said the message in the OP was superficial. I also said that mindlessly labeling legitimate critiques of the motivations of Bilrow and his choice of wording as "character attacks" would result in a far more boring thread. Guess I misunderstood. My point is that we've taken it as far as we can and we're just playing a waiting game now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iotupa Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 [OOC]This thread is making me want to smash my head into my desk. [/OOC]The question has already been answered. Negotiations are still ongoing. Reps will be paid after the negotiations and the final amount is settled on. I don't give a damn that its Bilrow saying it, I give a damn that this is still being discussed and the same damn question is being repeated over and over and over without anyone noticing that it has already been answered.. Yes, we can all say Bilrow made a good point (if not agreeing with the method). The question was promptly answered. So.. what exactly are we talking about now? Well, then I agree with you. I'm mainly still responding solely to respond to people basing this solely on who the person with the message is, not talking about the message. I think in the interests of the sanity of everyone involved, we should probably just let Bilrow continue his little show with the countdown (or would it be countup, since the number is rising?) and ignore it. All relevant questions have been answered and the people who have made stupid comments based solely on who posted this and what alliance he is in have been rebuked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperator Hades Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Oh look, its Bilrow being his typical self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twizzler Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Well, then I agree with you. I'm mainly still responding solely to respond to people basing this solely on who the person with the message is, not talking about the message. I think in the interests of the sanity of everyone involved, we should probably just let Bilrow continue his little show with the countdown (or would it be countup, since the number is rising?) and ignore it. All relevant questions have been answered and the people who have made stupid comments based solely on who posted this and what alliance he is in have been rebuked. I wouldn't make comments simply because an NPO member called Bilrow posted this. I would post comments because I doubt the motive behind posting this thread was to help KoN! get their reps in a timely fashion. I question the why, not the who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 (edited) Oh look, its Bilrow being his typical self. And yet...he has a point. Athens should have started rolling the aid train immediately and not waited on KoN government to get its act together. It was the individual nations suffering attacks that need the rebuilding aid, not KoN government. FYI: I made this statement when the incident first came to light. Pay them their damn money already. Edited December 2, 2009 by ChairmanHal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iotupa Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 I wouldn't make comments simply because an NPO member called Bilrow posted this. I would post comments because I doubt the motive behind posting this thread was to help KoN! get their reps in a timely fashion. I question the why, not the who. Well, I questioned the "what" first, until Athens came in and said that Bilrow was incorrect and that Athens nations will be paying the reparations. Even with a questionable "why," the "what" can still be important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twizzler Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Well, I questioned the "what" first, until Athens came in and said that Bilrow was incorrect and that Athens nations will be paying the reparations. Even with a questionable "why," the "what" can still be important. I feel as though the 'what' was taken care of a while ago, or at least the stance that Athens intends to take was made clear. Yet this thread lived on with people asking the same questions again and again. I don't mean to undermine the importance of the what, but since that was taken care of so long ago, my attention has shifted to questioning the 'why'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygaland Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 (edited) And yet...he has a point.Athens should have started rolling the aid train immediately and not waited on KoN government to get its act together. It was the individual nations suffering attacks that need the rebuilding aid, not KoN government. FYI: I made this statement when the incident first came to light. Pay them their damn money already. Once again ChairmanHal wades in without bothering to read first. Londo has already said they are still working out the amount of reparations to be paid to KoN! and currently are awaiting a response from KoN! on that issue. Why would they start paying reps when no reps amount has been agreed yet? It isn't that long of a thread so no real excuse for not reading it. Edited December 2, 2009 by Tygaland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Conrad Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 (edited) "Look at me, I'm an attention whore!"Pathetic. This describes things nicely. This attempt at waging a PR war against Athens, an easy target at the moment, is so obvious it's pretty sad. Edited December 2, 2009 by Matthew Conrad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaghul Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 And yet...he has a point.Athens should have started rolling the aid train immediately and not waited on KoN government to get its act together. It was the individual nations suffering attacks that need the rebuilding aid, not KoN government. FYI: I made this statement when the incident first came to light. Pay them their damn money already. If KoN really cares and their nations really need it, than there's no reason they shouldn't be able to deal with this quickly. The delay is on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexxar Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 It's been 15 days+ since November 14, 2009 when Athens attacked the Knights of Ni!. So far the only reps paid has been: offer accept money tech 143815 240174 3000000 0 215032 162216 3000000 0 How long does it take to pay up for your mistake? Surely you don't think 6 million is enough to cover the damage? 17 Days And Still No Reps From Athens *Updated daily till Reps Start being Paid. ** Updated in Op. Why are you calling them out on this? NPO has failed to send out reps at any decent rate after the karma war. Maybe you should get a jump on sending your own reps before you call others out on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedj Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 "Look at me, I'm an attention whore!"Pathetic. i think i you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iotupa Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 I feel as though the 'what' was taken care of a while ago, or at least the stance that Athens intends to take was made clear. Yet this thread lived on with people asking the same questions again and again. I don't mean to undermine the importance of the what, but since that was taken care of so long ago, my attention has shifted to questioning the 'why'. Sure. I agree. This describes things nicely. This attempt at waging a PR war against Athens, an easy target at the moment, is so obvious it's pretty sad. Why are you calling them out on this? NPO has failed to send out reps at any decent rate after the karma war. Maybe you should get a jump on sending your own reps before you call others out on it. i think i you And then you have more people who come in, STILL attacking the person posting the message and the alliance he is from, completely ignoring the message he posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twizzler Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Sure. I agree.And then you have more people who come in, STILL attacking the person posting the message and the alliance he is from, completely ignoring the message he posted. You mean the majority of the posters here are mindless idiots? I would have never guessed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperator Hades Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 (edited) And yet...he has a point.Athens should have started rolling the aid train immediately and not waited on KoN government to get its act together. It was the individual nations suffering attacks that need the rebuilding aid, not KoN government. FYI: I made this statement when the incident first came to light. Pay them their damn money already. Yes...bilrow has a point..Athens has not sent the reps yet they have justified their reason for not doing so. Namely KoN not getting back to Athens about the total amount due. What is Bilrow's justification for making this thread though? Is bilrow the Overseer of Reps in CN now? Didnt think he was... Edited December 2, 2009 by Imperator Hades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Nothing surprises me about Londos Athens anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperator Hades Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 To paraphrase something Pacificans love to say, Athen's affairs are their own and nobody else should stick their nose in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinite Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 And then you have more people who come in, STILL attacking the person posting the message and the alliance he is from, completely ignoring the message he posted. I'm with you that the what no matter who it is brought up by a problem should be addressed, but you're acting like pointing out the why and the hypocrisy in making this thread has no place here. The what has been dealt with. If people ignore the message and bash the messenger, that's bad. If the messenger tries to make a problem when none exists and continues to posture after having every concern he's brought up fully refuted, then he deserves what he gets. You're acting like those people are ignoring some problem by attacking Bilrow. They're not. They're attacking Bilrow for making up a problem when none exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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