TheEraser Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Would you mind outlining precisely the actions that my alliance and I have done that are tactless stupid and indecent since our formation? for starters your complete lack of tact when talking about and interacting with diplomats. Also, we could try threads like this one. Or how about This one? Fact is your members have proven time and time again through their actions and their words, that your alliance isn't worth much in any of those areas. Also, don't forget your past. You can not escape judgement no matter how many time you have to flip sides to avoid a beating, eventually you will get whats coming to you for everything you've done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Lightning Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 for starters your complete lack of tact when talking about and interacting with diplomats. Any examples of this? Also, we could try threads like this one. Or how about This one? What is wrong with either of those threads? Note that they have already acknowledged that their formation announcement was in poor taste and have apologised for it several times. Fact is your members have proven time and time again through their actions and their words, that your alliance isn't worth much in any of those areas. What actions and words? What areas? This appears to be a whole new variation of "fact" that I have hitherto not encountered. Also, don't forget your past. You can not escape judgement no matter how many time you have to flip sides to avoid a beating, eventually you will get whats coming to you for everything you've done. What have they done that has them eventually receiving "what's coming to" them? You haven't even said what they've done to get you all frothy at the mouth, let alone provide any evidence to prove they did it. All this rhetorical fluff might seem like a good idea when you come up with it, but you'll have to find something more substantial if you want to be taken seriously. At the moment, you just come off as someone with an axe to grind who doesn't seem to know why he's holding a grudge in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEraser Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 (edited) Any examples of this? thsi comment for starters "Well, it is good to know that Polaris speaks through such a sound, rational leader[referring, of course to AlmightyGrub, who is pretty much universally regarded as one of the most rational and respected leaders around]. Yikes. ~ Watchman" or this one "I never said anything about hard work. Grub is probably a very hardworking. I just think he is so obsessed with bitterness that he has gone bat!@#$ crazy. ~ Watchman" What is wrong with either of those threads? Note that they have already acknowledged that their formation announcement was in poor taste and have apologised for it several times. yeah cause that absolves them of all their sins. Someone should have told NPO that apologizing would have fixed EVERYTHING! What actions and words? What areas? This appears to be a whole new variation of "fact" that I have hitherto not encountered. see my response to your first comment What have they done that has them eventually receiving "what's coming to" them? Members of their alliance have proven that they are fine with turning their backs on their allies when it suits their own personal intersts. To their credit these sycophants are no longer leading the alliance, but the culture they created is still there. You haven't even said what they've done to get you all frothy at the mouth, let alone provide any evidence to prove they did it. All this rhetorical fluff might seem like a good idea when you come up with it, but you'll have to find something more substantial if you want to be taken seriously. At the moment, you just come off as someone with an axe to grind who doesn't seem to know why he's holding a grudge in the first place.oh i have an axe to grind, but its pretty well warranted Edited October 28, 2009 by elborrador Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OberstKrieger Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 If you find truth in your endeavours, then you will be fulfilled, even if your nation is destroyed. If you believe this is the right path, then pursue it with the greatest righteousness you've ever felt. And to TSO, I would assume you find this an affront, and therefore, be affronted, and defend yourselves; and with your upper hand smash any who oppose you, your friends, and your allies, with any and all power that you deem necessary and satisfactory, but do forgive in time. This user wants to be known, wants her voice to be heard, and perhaps one day will learn her own lesson, one which no amount of destruction can teach her but rather she must learn from within herself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Kremlin Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 thsi comment for starters"Well, it is good to know that Polaris speaks through such a sound, rational leader[referring, of course to AlmightyGrub, who is pretty much universally regarded as one of the most rational and respected leaders around]. Yikes. ~ Watchman" or this one "I never said anything about hard work. Grub is probably a very hardworking. I just think he is so obsessed with bitterness that he has gone bat!@#$ crazy. ~ Watchman" To be fair neither of those are any worse than what's been said in this thread (or really that out of the ordinary to see in any thread). I'd say TSO has put up with far worse abuse than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Jo Harte Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 for starters your complete lack of tact when talking about and interacting with diplomats. Well as I'm sure you've seen as you posted quite tactfully in the announcement thread, I've just been appointed our co Director of Foreign Affairs, and if there is a problem with our interaction with diplomats it does need to be brought to my attention. We have no drama on our Embassy forums though. We get on pretty well with diplomats from what I've seen and we've always acted tactfully around them. But if you think there is a problem with how interact with diplomats on other forums I have not seen please highlight them for me. Also, we could try threads like this one. Or how about This one? Well both of those threads are in relation to our formation and the price we paid for it, I'll be the first to admit it went absolutely awfully in a manner no one planned but that isn't the point. You said; Since then they've done nothing to prove that they have tact, intelligence, or any sense of decency. I had even underlined the word since in my post to try and further infer that I had been referring to after our formation. You have given me no incidents where we have acted in the manner you have described since then. Fact is your members have proven time and time again through their actions and their words, that your alliance isn't worth much in any of those areas. Also, don't forget your past. You can not escape judgement no matter how many time you have to flip sides to avoid a beating, eventually you will get whats coming to you for everything you've done. If that is the case you're not arguing this fact very well. If that is true could you give me some facts or examples to back it up? I'm not going to forget my past anytime soon, and I've heard quite enough of that from the Karma War thanks very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ololiqui Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 for starters your complete lack of tact when talking about and interacting with diplomats. tact n. 1. Acute sensitivity to what is proper and appropriate in dealing with others, including the ability to speak or act without offending. I've always found you quite the opposite of tactful elborrador. i.e. from this thread alone... thsi is a quality thread. My only concern is that your nation doesn't own nukes. its also sad that your aid slots are full at least do some damage to them on your way down, i'm sure it'll be fun. so hopefully you can understand how i figured, apparently wrongly so, that this thread was about how spineless TSO was and how they have a history of abandoning people when it suits them too. know i get what you're saying, but lets be honest about the split. it wasn't just a few friends leaving to form their own alliance, it was a large majority of the government (sam was a chancellor at the time) and a whole slew of other nations that they specifically recruited. When they decided to leave, they decided not to wait till they had fulfilled their obligations to their current alliance and instead decided to do something that would basically cripple MCXA (who has since made a quality recovery, and are actually significantly better now). They knew what they were doing and they knew what it would do to MCXA, and they did it anyways. They intended to harm MCXA, or at least knew their leaving would create a huge destabilization. Fran did what she did b/c she was trying to help MCXA. Then again the road to hell is paved with good intentions... What TSO did was far more than your garden variety spin off alliance, and their intentions make what they did far worse than what Fran did in my eyes, though she was still not right. i believe their actions speak louder than words on that issue, and their actions are that of 3rd graders who don't quite know what tact is yet. Since then they've done nothing to prove that they have tact, intelligence, or any sense of decency. As i stated originally, the only thing that sucks about this issue is that Fran doesn't have nukes and a huge warchest. Actually the evidence to the contrary is just to numerous to continue on. "Tact", my good sir, is simply not something you have in abundance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Fran, Fran, Fran... You've gone in a horrible direction post Vox and this is another terrible attempt at whatever it is you're trying to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OberstKrieger Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Fran, Fran, Fran...You've gone in a horrible direction post Vox and this is another terrible attempt at whatever it is you're trying to do. It would seem a fragment of Vox rebellion still lives in her; unfortunately I am not well versed enough in current political affairs to state against what she is rebelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Jo Harte Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 If you find truth in your endeavours, then you will be fulfilled, even if your nation is destroyed.If you believe this is the right path, then pursue it with the greatest righteousness you've ever felt. And to TSO, I would assume you find this an affront, and therefore, be affronted, and defend yourselves; and with your upper hand smash any who oppose you, your friends, and your allies, with any and all power that you deem necessary and satisfactory, but do forgive in time. This user wants to be known, wants her voice to be heard, and perhaps one day will learn her own lesson, one which no amount of destruction can teach her but rather she must learn from within herself. I think you win the thread with this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin32891 Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 I did, actually. All three of the targets I hit on the first day. You, on the other hand, took three days to anarchy me, and couldn't even do it without a nuke. Hey look on the bright side instead of just going you get to go with a "bang". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhysicsJunky Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 unfortunately I am not well versed enough in current political affairs to state against what she is rebelling. Maturity? The fading spotlight? There are a thousand good one liners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Jo Harte Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 thsi comment for starters"Well, it is good to know that Polaris speaks through such a sound, rational leader[referring, of course to AlmightyGrub, who is pretty much universally regarded as one of the most rational and respected leaders around]. Yikes. ~ Watchman" or this one "I never said anything about hard work. Grub is probably a very hardworking. I just think he is so obsessed with bitterness that he has gone bat!@#$ crazy. ~ Watchman" Well that's relatively moderate to some of the posts we have had to deal with in threads to be perfectly honest. So in that case, can I assume you find all those people who have gone against on the OWF to be even more tactless than you think we are? And you cannot say that Watchman represents the entirety of TSO, we have many other tactful posters I assure you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teriethien Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 (edited) That was a horrible video Have fun Francesca [ooc] with exams & uni [/ooc], and come back soon. Edited October 28, 2009 by Teriethien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Fingolfin Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Well this is entertaining. I dug the video. At least you guys were competant enough to throw each of your 3 attack targets in anarchy. Good luck TSO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dujek Onearm Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 You remind me of a certain ex-senator from ODN known as Adeva Avatara. It would be freakin' hysterical if you two were the same person or even sisters, as it would explain your behavior, but even then. I was trying to remember from where I knew someone like her. Thanks for reminding me, Soccer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Srqt Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 are you done yet? Seriously it takes a lot to conjure positive feeling towards TSO from me but you managed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEraser Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 I've always found you quite the opposite of tactful elborrador. i.e. from this thread alone...Actually the evidence to the contrary is just to numerous to continue on. "Tact", my good sir, is simply not something you have in abundance. never said i had any tact, but good on you for side stepping the real issues at hand, pull that one out of sams playbook did ya? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Boris Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 are you done yet? Seriously it takes a lot to conjure positive feeling towards TSO from me but you managed. Addition of a negative charge into a sea of negative charges does not miraculously yield a positive charge, my good sir. Fran may have temporarily softened the animosity of some of the community by directing it at her instead, but in the long run it isn't likely to give TSO a net benefit in how they are perceived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libera Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 never said i had any tact, but good on you for side stepping the real issues at hand, pull that one out of sams playbook did ya? So how can you accuse of someone of not having a quality that you, yourself don't possess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEraser Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 (edited) So how can you accuse of someone of not having a quality that you, yourself don't possess? to be fair the only group of nations i treat this way is, TSO. i refuse to show them any respect as you deserve none. I'm quite pleasant to others most of the time Edited October 28, 2009 by elborrador Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libera Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 to be fair the only group of nations i treat this way is, TSO. i refuse to show you any respect as you deserve none. I'm quite pleasant to others most of the time Assuming that you were meaning me and not just generalizing I feel a need to inform you that I'm not in TSO. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor José Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 This should be fairly common sense, but just to clear up any confusion, anyone aiding a nation at war with a member of The Sweet Oblivion will be dealt with swiftly and harshly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Sykes Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Wow, so many emotions pulling me in so many different directions. On one hand, Fran is beyond annoying, and has burtn through more spotlight bulbs in her CN career than anyone in Hollywood ever has. On the other hand, there is TSO, the very epitome of everything that is, and can be, wrong with this planet. Bad luck to both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penkala Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 To correct Cortath, whom is a busy man, I believe it was BTO who asked for that sanction, stating the case for TSOSeems even more people dislike you nation BTO loves to ask for sanctions on small rogues without nukes and no real capacity to hurt anyone. They've caused at least a couple of trade circles to fall apart that didn't need to fall apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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