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Dujek Onearm

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  1. [quote name='Kortal' date='08 February 2010 - 06:58 PM' timestamp='1265666299' post='2169133'] let's not pretend the CB-less attack itself changed anything for anyone. None of TOP's supporters, past or present, thought less of them for it (we don't appreciate our allies being attacked mind you, but I didn't actually think less of them for hitting first, in the same manner that I don't think less of airport security for searching that big scary guy in line BEFORE he whips out a shoebomb), and as for enemies, everyone knew where CnG, TOP, and IRON were going to be in the conflict well before they went in. Far as I can see, TOP's only mistake here was (and continues to be) trusting polar, even if I wish they had chosen other targets entirely [/quote] Well, this is your personal opinion. I have heard other people saying other things. Also, looking to the fact that alliances were fighting on the "crusader's" side and now are against TOP's side only shows the obvious: they lost support with their move.
  2. [quote name='shahenshah' date='08 February 2010 - 06:01 PM' timestamp='1265662882' post='2169055'] I do not know the numbers you saw, but the ones I saw suggested that this war might be the most equal ever in history of Bob, In my view if all the tiny alliances here and there were accounted for, you guys actually had advantage. [/quote] Well, multiple projected scenarios appointed to a very equal conflict. But i) they were just projections, things could have gone very differently than expected (as they in fact went) and ii) I believe he was referring to the moment where TOP and co entered the conflict, and at that point the crusaders' side had an advantage over the raiders'. That is a fact. So at the point you entered the war, no help was needed. Again, you entered based on the assumption that CnG would enter against your alliances. It could have happened as likely as it could not. It was dependent on a series of factors, no one could say for sure what would have happened. You hadn't any real proof of your claims and declaring a war against an entire uninvolved bloc based on feebly assumptions like you did is very, very questionable. Of course you already realized this, when you saw a great deal of the support you previously had vanishing right before your eyes.
  3. [quote name='MikeTheFirst' date='06 February 2010 - 03:01 PM' timestamp='1265479267' post='2164779'] I never saw Grub as a great emperor. I do agree on your view of what's been happening, though. [/quote] To be fair, he was a great emperor as I see it. But what made him a great emperor is not so well known by the public. His presence at Polaris head during the no-CB war and what came afterward was of paramount importance in keeping the alliance together during the war and the reparations period and in allowing it to have that swift recovery both statistically and diplomatically after everything was done. I was there back then and I can say the man was an excellent leader in that period. He made his share of mistakes, specially recently, and has his flaws, but no one can deny the importance he had in Polaris' history.
  4. [quote name='HellAngel' date='06 February 2010 - 01:15 PM' timestamp='1265472908' post='2164599'] Why would they massively sent nations into peacemode if they are only a neutral bystander? Hah. [/quote] I never said CnG was going to be neutral. I said CnG was uninvolved at that moment. Perhaps we would join the conflict in another front or perhaps peace would be reached before that (the most likely outcome hadn't you attacked us). So yeah, this was never about coming into Polaris defense. Your moves were all about trying to attack CnG in a opportunistic way, because you saw us as a threat to you, as you have stated a few times since the war started.
  5. [quote name='D34th' date='06 February 2010 - 05:58 AM' timestamp='1265446730' post='2164083'] Sorry, but I'm not asking for forgiveness, we are fixing our own mistakes, we aren't asking "Please forgive us, next time we will do different, we changed!" Also people are blaming/hating and us for honoring a treaty what's is complet different from what ODN did, and must say, I love it. [/quote] I see that you still want to hold some sort of moral high ground here. Let me say you something, yes the situations are a little different. Yes, you are fighting both sides, while we fought only one. And why are you doing that? Because [b]you[/b] started this war despite your allies, who were asking you to stop this madness for it would put everyone in difficult positions. You were the ones who attacked an ally of an ally. You were the ones who gave TOP the ok to attack CnG and said you wouldn't enter the war. When you realized that your friends were nuking each other to dust because of you, the only thing left to do was to help your friends on both sides of the war [b]you[/b] started. To reach this point, though you broke you word, you broke treaties, you pissed friends and you screwed up big time. Just like we did. Like it or not, despite some small differences, the situations are pretty much the same and you trying to paint it as if you are still above us in that matter just shows the type of person you are. A person who puts his grudges above everything else. I, for one, don't blame Polaris for anything you have done. You were in a very tight and difficult situation. And in situations like that is very likely that you will make mistakes. We, ODN, have been there and we know how it works. I won't label Polaris, I won't say you are liars, treaty breakers or anything like that. I will only wish you good luck on your war and hope that you manage to repair everything that needs to be repaired very soon. Despite all the crap some of your members have thrown in our way in the last year or so, I still like Polaris very much and I sincerely hope to see you well.
  6. Polaris was in a very difficult situation and made a very difficult decision. Some will like, some will not. This type of decisions always have this kind of effect. You had allies on both sides, and you decided to help both, as costly as it will be to you and I deeply respect that. Good luck on your wars Polaris, may you get out of this difficult situation soon. [quote name='HellAngel' date='06 February 2010 - 09:40 AM' timestamp='1265460023' post='2164289'] You shot yourselves in the foot with this Polaris. No one will ever trust you again. What are you trying to save with this? The MK MDP? Thats laughable. We came to your defense and you $%&@ed us. [/quote] You really believe this, don't you? Tell me, how attacking two of Polaris' treaty partners, who were uninvolved in the war and would never attack NpO, is coming to their defense? Stop playing the victim here.
  7. We know too well how this kind of decision can be difficult. Much respect for you, STA. Good fighting and show them hell.
  8. [quote name='MCRABT' date='03 February 2010 - 12:55 PM' timestamp='1265212524' post='2156617'] All this ODN tough talk is making me cringe. It's a shame you guys are an even worse flop on the battlefield than we expected. My targets from ODN have done nothing but roll over for 5 days. [/quote] Well, the same could be said about a lot of IRONers. So what's your point? I thought you were better than making this kind of silly comments... Oh, wait!! I didn't! [quote name='Hymenbreach' date='03 February 2010 - 01:34 PM' timestamp='1265214861' post='2156676'] ODN don't do wars. Unless they have an overwhelming numerical advantage, of course. It's the opposite of bravery. whatever that word is. [/quote] Homework for you, young man! Make a research and an essay about Citrus War and GWIII. Regarding the current conflict, well we are fighting a defensive war here. If our aggressors were dumb enough to attack a superior side for no reason at all, it is really not our fault.
  9. [quote name='Daikos' date='01 February 2010 - 05:53 PM' timestamp='1265057600' post='2150990'] [img]http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/827/darthballoon.jpg[/img] [/quote] Pretty good.
  10. Congrats Legion, you have been through a lot and managed to overcome it all. That is quite an achievement. I really hope one day our alliances will at least be friends once more.
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