Californian Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 The odds are 0-100. as in 100% Meaning if you have 60% then a 60 or lower wins, if you have 50% a 50 or lower wins. Same odds, different % limits. AMAZING. ...stop trolling. You're not funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 The odds are 0-100. as in 100% Meaning if you have 60% then a 60 or lower wins, if you have 50% a 50 or lower wins. Same odds, different % limits. AMAZING. Wow, that is so ...I didn't know that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Terra Di Agea Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Wow, that is so ...I didn't know that... Somewhere in the galaxy, a spaceship powered by the collective sarcasm of mankind just entered warp speed... On an unrelated note, I still feel we place way too much credence in Spy rolls, RP really should be the deciding factor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahsir Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 ...stop trolling. You're not funny. Wow, that is so ...I didn't know that... I'm not trolling, I was explaining so that multiple rerolls don't need to occur. That was a 50% spy odd in the screen shot, not a 60%. Could you roll again using a 50% spy odd? Because of things like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Nova Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 (edited) Somewhere in the galaxy, a spaceship powered by the collective sarcasm of mankind just entered warp speed...On an unrelated note, I still feel we place way too much credence in Spy rolls, RP really should be the deciding factor No system is perfect enough to avoid infiltration. EDIT: Most roleplayers do not detail every little thing they do for their anti-spy measures. Every time someone RP's doing some form of infiltration, there will be one more layer always added on. For example, someone is entering a federal building, but the only thing mentioned is the person must have a valid ID. Say the spy gets the ID and tries to enter the building, now all of the sudden the building also has mandatory fingerprint ID to enter the building. Unless every single person details every single bit of security they have, these spy rolls are the best way to handle spy RP's. Edited January 9, 2010 by Voodoo Nova Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The FSM Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Or you could do a spy roll, and then RP the successful/unsuccessful spy operation. Or just work something out separately with the person you are spying on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 No system is perfect enough to avoid infiltration. EDIT: Most roleplayers do not detail every little thing they do for their anti-spy measures. Every time someone RP's doing some form of infiltration, there will be one more layer always added on. For example, someone is entering a federal building, but the only thing mentioned is the person must have a valid ID. Say the spy gets the ID and tries to enter the building, now all of the sudden the building also has mandatory fingerprint ID to enter the building. Unless every single person details every single bit of security they have, these spy rolls are the best way to handle spy RP's. This is why I have the policy that at least 3 (random) measures of that kind have to be implemented on any governmental facility more important than school-organisation. (Usually, it's a unique ID, which would be insanely hard to fake, a fingerprint scan and a retinal scan.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 This is why I have the policy that at least 3 (random) measures of that kind have to be implemented on any governmental facility more important than school-organisation. (Usually, it's a unique ID, which would be insanely hard to fake, a fingerprint scan and a retinal scan.) Last time I checked the mythbusters managed to create a glove that had fingerprints on them and the fingerprint scan enabled door opened yet the company that produced those fingerprint scans claimed they were never tricked by fake fingerprints before. As for the retinal scan, that can be done with the correct contact lens (though it would take a lot of effort to copy the correct real one). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Nova Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Last time I checked the mythbusters managed to create a glove that had fingerprints on them and the fingerprint scan enabled door opened yet the company that produced those fingerprint scans claimed they were never tricked by fake fingerprints before.As for the retinal scan, that can be done with the correct contact lens (though it would take a lot of effort to copy the correct real one). I have the perfect "three" measures that would be near impossible to pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Last time I checked the mythbusters managed to create a glove that had fingerprints on them and the fingerprint scan enabled door opened yet the company that produced those fingerprint scans claimed they were never tricked by fake fingerprints before.As for the retinal scan, that can be done with the correct contact lens (though it would take a lot of effort to copy the correct real one). Or you can take a chemical and organic sample of the finger prints all in the same process as a secondary process. If certain trace organic cells are dead (they don't last very long anyways), it means it's a fake, thus is denied. Same with the secreted chemicals. If it's done with a certain material, like latex, it would be picked up and thus denied. As for the retinal scan, you could use a corrected contact lens, but it can easily be thwarted by detecting a lens in the first place. So a secondary measure would be to remove all lenses, including contacts. Sure, you could make a new material, but it still keeps out the common day idiot. And for I.Ds, all people should have their identification scanned onto their brains. The only way you could forge an ID would be to, well, steal their brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerreyRough Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Or you can knock out an employee and use his eye/hand/ID. Spaceballs FTW! Now, is this a discussion thread? It would be better to take the discussion to the OOC thread, since we all know that this is a no discussion thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Requesting spy roll on Disparu: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verum vox vocis Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 if it's all right with you, since the current GM's seem to be busy, I'll do the roll, if you like. So...1-30 means fail, 31-100 is a success. For you, you get a...98. Congratulations, you are successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I have a question, how can we solve the problem of people threatening OOC but acting "peaceful" IC? Nation A doesn't like what Nation B did, but wants to appear peaceful. So, Nation A goes to an OOC chat and tells Nation B if they don't do this or that, they will be nuked/at war with them IC. Nation A then approaches IC peacefully, and the deal goes through because of the OOC threats. I do not want to name names, but I've seen this happening, and I was wondering if there was some way to stop it from happening. Perhaps an application of the "No OOC deals" rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Minister Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I always like to have OOC confirmation that what I am about to do IC'ly will result in my curbstomping by the offended party... its common courtesy you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I always like to have OOC confirmation that what I am about to do IC'ly will result in my curbstomping by the offended party... its common courtesy you know. It's common courtesy to threaten someone OOC then act innocent IC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Minister Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 It's common courtesy to threaten someone OOC then act innocent IC? That was tongue-in-cheek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californian Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I have a question, how can we solve the problem of people threatening OOC but acting "peaceful" IC?Nation A doesn't like what Nation B did, but wants to appear peaceful. So, Nation A goes to an OOC chat and tells Nation B if they don't do this or that, they will be nuked/at war with them IC. Nation A then approaches IC peacefully, and the deal goes through because of the OOC threats. I do not want to name names, but I've seen this happening, and I was wondering if there was some way to stop it from happening. Perhaps an application of the "No OOC deals" rule. Is it hard to ignore talking with someone you don't want to? We don't have any say on how people conduct themselves OOC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kingswell Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I have a question, how can we solve the problem of people threatening OOC but acting "peaceful" IC?Nation A doesn't like what Nation B did, but wants to appear peaceful. So, Nation A goes to an OOC chat and tells Nation B if they don't do this or that, they will be nuked/at war with them IC. Nation A then approaches IC peacefully, and the deal goes through because of the OOC threats. I do not want to name names, but I've seen this happening, and I was wondering if there was some way to stop it from happening. Perhaps an application of the "No OOC deals" rule. Ther is nothing you can do about someone OOC words or actions except putting them on your own ignore list. As Cali said none of us can actually tell someone what to do OOC and if they don't then threaten them IC. All you can do is let your friends/allies know what the threat was and prepare best as you possibly can IC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Ther is nothing you can do about someone OOC words or actions except putting them on your own ignore list. As Cali said none of us can actually tell someone what to do OOC and if they don't then threaten them IC. All you can do is let your friends/allies know what the threat was and prepare best as you possibly can IC. Except there's no realistic way to prepare IC'ly for an OOC threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McBride Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 This is why I always make it a point to act threatening ICly and OOCly. That way, people can prepare without godmoding and are never confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Except there's no realistic way to prepare IC'ly for an OOC threat. But their leader ALWAYS seems to have a feeling that war is on the horizon when it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 This is why I always make it a point to act threatening ICly and OOCly. That way, people can prepare without godmoding and are never confused. Hah hah, yeah, I suppose that's one positive aspect of your attirtude... But their leader ALWAYS seems to have a feeling that war is on the horizon when it happens. Now that's acceptable, if the threat was only OOC in the first place... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Hah hah, yeah, I suppose that's one positive aspect of your attirtude... Now that's acceptable, if the threat was only OOC in the first place... Not really. Still a godmod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Godmodding isn't preparing for war over an OOC threat. That's metagaming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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