Magnificus Focus Posted April 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 We legitimately support our friend and protector, based on the treaty we have with them. The Endemic Resolution contains the following: Article VI – RECIPROCAL DEFENSE (...) Should the VIRIDIAN ENTENTE come under attack, The Pandemic Alliance is encouraged but is not obligated to provide the VIRIDIAN ENTENTE with such assistance as it is able to muster, be it military, political or financial or other assets. (...) With regard to our decision process, you may know that Pandemic is a True Democratic alliance, which means that all member states have equal rights and an equal say in every alliance decision. Pandemic is also a peaceful alliance. This decision therefore was not an easy process and has taken some time. You may call it what you want, but we are of the opinion that this step was difficult, but a logical, honest and honerable one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Call me cynical but I can't help but feel they wanted to make sure the side they were joining was doing well in the war before they jumped in with this defensive clause they have. its a good move for them if thats the case, which i dont believe it is. pandemic wants to help out, but had to make sure that in doing so they werent putting themselves in a position to get destroyed. all power to the members of pandemic for choosing to exercise their option to join this war on ve's side, we are glad to have them aboard, and i personally look forward to working with them in this war as i have enjoyed working with other member nations from other karma alliances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdnss69 Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 o/ bandwagoneering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penedono Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 o/ bandwagoneering It must be fun to say, everyone's using that one. I prefer: o/ backing up your protectors when the timing was right (not just convenient) Really, which alliance out there is that bastardly that they'd throw their protectorates into war? Obviously not the VE, so kudos to them. Welcome to the fun, PA - you guys have an upstanding alliance protecting you, and we in the Grand Lodge, and AZTEC, look forward to working beside you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibShack Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 The VE is, as always, grateful for the frienship Pandemic continues to extend to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Nova Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 I call bandwagoners...163) Pandemic 23 members 5 nukes are you sure you really want to do this? o/ bandwagoneering They have a treaty with VE that includes an ODP article.... I call good allies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibShack Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 They have a treaty with VE that includes an ODP article.... I call good allies. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komodovaran Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Nice to see you on the battlefront! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Germanic Republic Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 (edited) good job MCXA! its time for the badwagoners to jump in Maybe they just don't like MCXA and want them dead? You could relate to that, aye? OP: o/ Pandemic. Should've attacked IRON. Edited April 30, 2009 by Germanic Republic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Republic of Roma Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 MCXA is the new paper tiger. They're barely outnumbered in NS and numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Näktergal Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Perhaps then, you could also explain why it has taken so long for them to join in? A smaller alliance whose players are a bit more casual and less organized than the behemoth alliances could easily have a hard time fully prepping for war and jumping in right away. So that could justify at least a few days right there. Plus, it's entirely possible VE asked them to sit out for a bit to see how things played out, so that when they did come in, they would be able to hit with the strongest possible impact, rather than simply being neutralized early on. That way, they actually help VE out more than if they simply declared on the first day to satisfy all of the CN eLawyers. Of course, that's just me attempting to use logic, as opposed to immediately jumping to the worst possible conclusion because I want to bash the people declaring war on me. Oh CN, will you ever change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdnss69 Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 They have a treaty with VE that includes an ODP article.... I call good allies. Good allies are the ones that jump right into the fray without waiting to see which side is going to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis Quezada Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Good luck o/ With regard to our decision process, you may know that Pandemic is a True Democratic alliance, which means that all member states have equal rights and an equal say in every alliance decision. Pandemic is also a peaceful alliance. This decision therefore was not an easy process and has taken some time.You may call it what you want, but we are of the opinion that this step was difficult, but a logical, honest and honerable one. And yeah, the speed with decision is a disadvantage to democratic alliances, more so in bigger one like ours. However its more rewarding in the long run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Good allies are the ones that jump right into the fray without waiting to see which side is going to win. Has nothing to do with who is going to win. We're enacting our defense clause and supporting our friends. Good luck o/And yeah, the speed with decision is a disadvantage to democratic alliances, more so in bigger one like ours. However its more rewarding in the long run Exactly! I look forward to this, whether or not I get curbstomped, I will know we acted in good faith with our own alliance and our friends in VE. o/ Pandemic o7 VE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boscher Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 MCXA is really collapsing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuiNur Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Any relation to swine flu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy2e Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Well this is interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelchael Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Well this is interesting. Interesting? Your sig says you are MCXA's MoFA. I'd like to think that this couldn't possibly be a surprise to you at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesca Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Well this is interesting. You'd think the MoFA of such a well-known alliance would have something more substantial to say when responding to a Declaration of War on his own alliance. But perhaps this is indicative of MCXA's standards these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 You'd think the MoFA of such a well-known alliance would have something more substantial to say when responding to a Declaration of War on his own alliance. But perhaps this is indicative of MCXA's standards these days. Standards? I guess standards are involved at some point. I just can't find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesca Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 (edited) Standards? I guess standards are involved at some point. I just can't find it. Bandwagoning? Is that what you call honouring MDPs? Edit: (OOC) typo. (OOC) Edited May 1, 2009 by Francesca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Soviet Attack Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Standards? I guess standards are involved at some point. I just can't find it. Yeah it's not like VE's MDP partners were attacked or anything. Filthy bandwagoners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Impero Romano Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 To those wondering why they are coming in now, it was our call, not theirs, and they have been more then eager to enact our treaty for some time now. Also, if your calling "bandwagoning"...your just not very smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy2e Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 You'd think the MoFA of such a well-known alliance would have something more substantial to say when responding to a Declaration of War on his own alliance. But perhaps this is indicative of MCXA's standards these days. Yeah our standard really hit rock bottom a few weeks ago, but we purged ourselves of some treacherous swines. Can't say things are perfect, but we are definitely getting better. I have always found that those who chomp at the bit of power often never make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesca Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Yeah our standard really hit rock bottom a few weeks ago, but we purged ourselves of some treacherous swines. Can't say things are perfect, but we are definitely getting better. I have always found that those who chomp at the bit of power often never make it. Yeah, I heard you were my successor. They couldn't muzzle me, so they needed someone with less free thought. I must say though, the track record of the people who have left your alliance seems to be much more impressive than that of the useless people who are getting into power these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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