Caesar833 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Or both could be actually good people for cancelling on bad allies?If you knew all the internal stuff in Q the last week or so, you'd be applauding MHA. Either way its the same thing. But the public complained when NPO did it so they have a right to complain when MHA does it. And "all the internal stuff in Q" was not used as the reasoning for their stance. So that does not apply here at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Destruction Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I never praised or denounced MHA for their actions. My mistake. I'm sorry for putting words in your mouth, Voodoo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Where is USBR when you need him.... I'm afraid my hypocrisy meter would be broken if he were to show up. It could barely handle bakunin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorost Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Invicta would prefer to see war avoided whenever possible. We consider both NPO and MHA to be our friends, and we would be saddened to see enmity between these two great alliances. I strongly believe that no one is a badguy here. We all want a good resolution to the current situation. May cool heads prevail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heft Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Wait a second are they calling MHA dishonorable for pulling out of a treaty with a 1 year cancellation clause, I could be wrong, but it doesn't look like they've actually pulled out, they've just said they won't be honoring it. Which just seems like a slightly peculiar way of going about things here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maicke Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 though i do love MHA, this is not honorable. when NPO did it, it was all "you guys suck!" now when MHA does it, its all "you guys rule!" though i like the path you chose, you are doing it in a dishonorable way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBuc Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Then I fail to see how you couldn't understand my statement of low standards. I assumed you were speaking of TPF actually. And I countered by saying that they've been with Zenith for a long time, and if Zenith views them as a true friend, it's not "low standards". But you seem to have been talking about NPO. NPO and Zenith aren't even allied. So I fail to see where you're going with the NPO UJW thing as an example of Zenith's supposed low standards. -Bama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar833 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 though i do love MHA, this is not honorable. when NPO did it, it was all "you guys suck!" now when MHA does it, its all "you guys rule!"though i like the path you chose, you are doing it in a dishonorable way This man sees the truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackjackCF Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 (edited) I guess our treaty's gone then? Thanks guys. Edited April 22, 2009 by BlackjackCF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Tolkien Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 For as long as I have been a member, NPO has never once cancelled a treaty nor failed to aid it's allies. In the Bold: NEVER? WTFBBQHAXORZ. Every alliance has canceled a treaty before. This is so incorrect a brain-dead monkey could see through it. In the Italics: I am reminded again of the UJW... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbrownso Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Or both could be actually good people for cancelling on bad allies?If you knew all the internal stuff in Q the last week or so, you'd be applauding MHA. So how do you know? I don't believe that FCC is a member of the Continuum. Wonder how someone such as yourself gets inside information? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurney Halleck Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 So how do you know? I don't believe that FCC is a member of the Continuum. Wonder how someone such as yourself gets inside information? He reads the Tattler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBuc Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 though i do love MHA, this is not honorable. when NPO did it, it was all "you guys suck!" now when MHA does it, its all "you guys rule!"though i like the path you chose, you are doing it in a dishonorable way Finally, someone on the other side who gets it. I was starting to wonder if there was anyone left who believes in honoring treaties. -Bama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogaden Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 In the Bold: NEVER? WTFBBQHAXORZ. Every alliance has canceled a treaty before. This is so incorrect a brain-dead monkey could see through it. In the Italics: I am reminded again of the UJW... That was before my time, so it has no relevance for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbrownso Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 He reads the Tattler? I thought all the Tattler stuff was in regards to the current negotiations/situation involving TORN/NPO and OV? I don't remember reading about the internal issues in the Continuum except for a one sentence blurb at the bottom. Not really an explanation there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venizelos Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 this is made of epic win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbrownso Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 though i do love MHA, this is not honorable. when NPO did it, it was all "you guys suck!" now when MHA does it, its all "you guys rule!"though i like the path you chose, you are doing it in a dishonorable way Careful; if you go against the party line, you might get any treaties with the "rebels/vipers" overlooked or canceled. That's how they roll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1a Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I don't remember being a member of the New Pacific Order then. Maybe you should check your facts. I had nothing to do with that. I wasn't a member when Harmlins was signed, does that mean I like Gramlins any less? By your logic, I wasn't a member when this treaty was signed, so I shouldn't have to honor it. I mean, I had nothing to do with it..... Think about that for a bit. And I am not really liking this fairy-tale where NPO was the good ally to MHA, only caring for their 'friends'. Secret Continuum meetings without MHA, that's how you treat your 'friends'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Brutus Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 o/ MHA Good call guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Destruction Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I wasn't a member when Harmlins was signed, does that mean I like Gramlins any less?By your logic, I wasn't a member when this treaty was signed, so I shouldn't have to honor it. I mean, I had nothing to do with it..... Think about that for a bit. Thought about it for a bit... and you're making a leap of imagination. That really has nothing to do with what I meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurney Halleck Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Finally, someone on the other side who gets it. I was starting to wonder if there was anyone left who believes in honoring treaties.-Bama Well, to be fair, any conflict that arises will likely put a strain on 'honoring' treaties - such as they are here on Bob. If you have two allies who you hold MADPs with (for example), and those two allies fight, you will break one or both no matter what (even if you remain neutral). Such is the universe we have made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Finally, someone on the other side who gets it. I was starting to wonder if there was anyone left who believes in honoring treaties.-Bama I still consider MHA to be pulling an NPO :x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffron X Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I wasn't aware that we had an ODP with you guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jipps Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Well I guess this war will see the rise of the Mutual Defense Unless I Decide It's Not Right Pact. Hopefully Cybernations is learning a lesson here, that more treaties doesn't put you in any better of a political situation and there is no need to sign unless you're absolutely sure you'd be willing to got to ZI for them. MHA, I'm disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janax Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Standing up for what you believe in is great. Props for that. But when you signed a treaty with a year-long cancellation clause, did it not once cross your mind that you might find yourselves in a situation where it might need to be canceled in, you know, a reasonable timeframe? When you sign your name to something, be prepared to follow through. If you're not prepared to follow through, don't sign your name. If you sign your name and don't follow through, your oath and name are worth nothing.-Bama It would appear that Zenith stands with their friends. I thought your alliance recognized that as a show of class. But I suppose it doesn't count when one's friends aren't your friends. -Bama How....ironic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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