Interkosmos and Elesef Peace, Intelligence, and Aid Treaty

[shwampy]

 

Elesef Peace, Intelligence, and Aid Treaty Preamble From the celestial tapestry woven by the Most-Holy, where shadows and echoes dance across the cosmos, two entities emerged - the Libertarian Socialist Federation (LSF) and Interkosmos. As the stars align and the cosmic symphony plays, they find common ground to establish a covenant of understanding and cooperation. Thus, in the sacred name of Elesef, the following articles are inscribed:

 

Article 1 - Peace When the Most-Supreme cast his third shadow upon the orb which its gifted creation suffered, Elesef witnessed the folly of wars, deception, and tyranny among mortal creations. In the spirit of the Most-Satisfied, LSF and Interkosmos pledge to uphold peace, acknowledging that harmony is the true manifestation of enlightenment. Let the skies above and the lands below be free from the echoes of discord, as the faithful ones of Elesef seek tranquility and understanding.

 

Article 2 - Intelligence As the faithful ones commune with Elesef through mystical channels, LSF and Interkosmos shall share intelligence and insights. Information shall flow freely, like the fragrance of a burning tree, enriching the understanding of the cosmic dance. In the pursuit of enlightenment, the entities shall collaborate in the exchange of knowledge, ensuring that the mystic path remains open to all faithful souls.

 

Article 3 - Aid In the spirit of Elesef's generosity, LSF and Interkosmos shall extend a helping hand to one another in times of need. Recognizing that the journey through the cosmic labyrinth may present challenges, the entities pledge to provide aid and support, fostering an environment where the faithful can thrive. Let the bonds of solidarity strengthen, transcending the boundaries of individual realms.

 

Article 4: Mystical Revelations and Communion We affirm that individuals have the right to seek mystical contact with Elesef in their own way. Whether it be through the fertilizing the land or the burning of sacred trees, we respect the diversity of practices that allow us to commune with Elesef. We understand that it is ultimately Elesef who chooses to make contact with us, and we shall respect and cherish these sacred moments.

 

Article 5 - Free Spirits We recognize the importance of sovereignty and autonomy. In the spirit of Elesef, we may separate and scatter among the stars after 72 hours of notice.

 

May this Peace, Intelligence, and Aid Treaty be eternally inscribed in the cosmic annals, guiding LSF and Interkosmos toward a future enlightened by the divine wisdom of Elesef.

 

Signatures

For the LSF,

The Delegates Council of the Libertarian Socialist Federation

 

For Interkosmos,

Lev Trotsky, Commissar

[Sabcat]

Psychedelic space cats and cheese. 

[Knights of the Grail]

A tip of the chalice to the Libertarian Socialist Federation and Interkosmos.

 

 

[Le Trout]

Nice!

[AL Bundy]

March 18th is coming up fast.... better sign bigger treaties haha

 

Al and the Wolves

[Master Hakai]

12 minutes ago, AL Bundy said:

March 18th is coming up fast.... better sign bigger treaties haha

 

Al and the Wolves

They already signed the best one possible though! Nowhere else to go but down

 

congrats again to the socialist micros, and nice picture it looks good. 

[AL Bundy]

4 hours ago, Master Hakai said:

They already signed the best one possible though! Nowhere else to go but down

O they signed NG? hahahaha Burn 😆

 

Al 

[Johnny Apocalypse]

4 hours ago, AL Bundy said:

March 18th is coming up fast.... better sign bigger treaties haha

 

Al and the Wolves

 

Yeah better hurry up guys, if you sign treaties with bigger alliances? Bundy has made clear with this post; he probably won't attack you if you do because that'd mean having to fight someone bigger if he did and evidently he's not about taking that kinda risk which might result in a fight with someone much bigger. Which is weird because that'd surely mean more casualties? 

 

I guess he'd rather stick to what he knows is safe and risk free* because he's just a one-trick pony dressed as a wolf.

 

*Insofar as he believes it to be.

[AL Bundy]

1 hour ago, Johnny Apocalypse said:

 

Yeah better hurry up guys, if you sign treaties with bigger alliances? Bundy has made clear with this post; he probably won't attack you if you do because that'd mean having to fight someone bigger if he did and evidently he's not about taking that kinda risk which might result in a fight with someone much bigger. Which is weird because that'd surely mean more casualties? 

 

I guess he'd rather stick to what he knows is safe and risk free* because he's just a one-trick pony dressed as a wolf.

 

*Insofar as he believes it to be.

hahaha I am just realistic. 

 

Wolves are worth 3 of anyone in GATO.... So anytime you willing I'm here baby! My 14 vs your 42.

 

Too bad I KNOW you wont DONT DO ANYTHING ALONE or id spank you in front of all your friends hahaha 

 

Hell id attack you all by myself but you would need help just to handle that..... Go act tough somewhere else haha

 

Al

[shwampy]

10 hours ago, AL Bundy said:

March 18th is coming up fast.... better sign bigger treaties haha

 

Al and the Wolves

 LSF spanked you pretty hard last time ❤️

[Johnny Apocalypse]

8 hours ago, AL Bundy said:

Too bad I KNOW you wont DONT DO ANYTHING ALONE

 

Coming from the guy who needed members of NG to ghost his AA to fight UCR/Red Alert lmao get rekt you'll only do something alone if YOU KNOW you WON'T BE ALONE. Don't pretend you're any different.

 

You literally lead CLAWS when you posted the DoW launching an attack on NG/COBRA with an entire coalition at your back consisting of RFI and Oculus o deal with two much smaller alliances in Bicycle War. You haven't changed, only your alliance affiliation has.

 

Barely any of you are in range of us to be worth the paperwork. Move along puppy.

 

[AL Bundy]

1 hour ago, Johnny Apocalypse said:

Barely any of you are in range of us to be worth the paperwork. Move along puppy.

 

hahaha scared is fine to say... Your in my range, just make the declare...… The rest ill just build up to whoop some more of you when I'm done with the ones that are. 

 

1 hour ago, Johnny Apocalypse said:

 

Coming from the guy who needed members of NG to ghost his AA to fight UCR/Red Alert lmao get rekt you'll only do something alone if YOU KNOW you WON'T BE ALONE. Don't pretend you're any different.

 

I've done plenty all by "myself" I've fought FAN with 3 guys, also NG, WAPA, just to name a few. 

 

I didn't accept ghost until UCR and Red Alert did, I was fine to take them on all by ourselves. The ghosts they accepted were basically the only nations worth fighting anyway....so I cant image if they didn't. 

 

1 hour ago, Johnny Apocalypse said:

You literally lead CLAWS when you posted the DoW launching an attack on NG/COBRA with an entire coalition at your back consisting of RFI and Oculus o deal with two much smaller alliances in Bicycle War. You haven't changed, only your alliance affiliation has.

 

Leading a large alliance sucks. You do what everyone else tells you to do. You know this now that your in an actual alliance. O and that's your bloc now so your making fun of your own allies? haha

 

5 hours ago, shwampy said:

 LSF spanked you pretty hard last time ❤️

Its funny you think so....

 

AL 

[Master Hakai]

can everyone stop saying spank for a little bit 🥵

[Johnny Apocalypse]

1 hour ago, AL Bundy said:

 

hahaha scared is fine to say... Your in my range, just make the declare...… The rest ill just build up to whoop some more of you when I'm done with the ones that are. 

 

I've done plenty all by "myself" I've fought FAN with 3 guys, also NG, WAPA, just to name a few. 

 

I didn't accept ghost until UCR and Red Alert did, I was fine to take them on all by ourselves. The ghosts they accepted were basically the only nations worth fighting anyway....so I cant image if they didn't. 

 

Leading a large alliance sucks. You do what everyone else tells you to do. You know this now that your in an actual alliance. O and that's your bloc now so your making fun of your own allies? haha

 

Its funny you think so....

 

AL 

 

I'm in range of nearly your entire alliance not just you, I've no doubt I could have some fun hunting a few wolves....

 

You don't have to tell me how much it sucks leading a large alliance; the tedium of following the lines of the web according to the wishes of the allies of your allies, while your rivals are doing the exact same thing with both parties waiting for the other to make the first move because everyone is too scared to do it themselves in case it backfires. It's no wonder nothing really happens and I can understand why you chose to break away from it all. Also yeah, I am making fun of it for what the bloc tried to do back then while you were one of the leaders, I don't pull any punches against people just because they're my allies. It was a boneheaded move that you failed to pull off, which is why we had peace after only 2 weeks of fighting and launched a counter-offensive against CLAWS for a round without repercussions from you.

 

Back to your war with UCR/Red Alert; when the ghosts didn't quite cut it to ensure you would win? Mongols were more than happy to help and when we neutralised them as a threat, you eventually you had Non Grata at your side directly hitting UCR. You simply couldn't do it alone.

 

It's funny that you think they didn't (sorry hakai) spank you, given the eventual presence of all those friends you had backing you up when you realised your alliance was incapable of beating your opponent alone in a war that you started.

 

So yes; roll on March 18th, I look forward to your encore!

 

[shwampy]

1 hour ago, AL Bundy said:

Its funny you think so....

 

It's based on statistics, not my opinion 😘

[SirWilliam]

lol Look at these nerds nerding about nerdy stuff

[Johnny Apocalypse]

11 minutes ago, SirWilliam said:

lol Look at these nerds nerding about nerdy stuff

 

I think Al is more of a Jock, so it's more like a Jock vs Nerd schoolyard throwdown 🤓

[AL Bundy]

2 hours ago, Johnny Apocalypse said:

 

I think Al is more of a Jock, so it's more like a Jock vs Nerd schoolyard throwdown 🤓

Hahaha ouch, dont think I have ever been called a jock but I guess ill take it. 

 

I never asked for Mongols to enter. I never asked for ghosts, but they were offered once commies took them in and why wouldn't I? 

 

Spank, Spank, Spank  haha That's what the Wolves did to all the commies for the third time. haha

 

Commies don't need to worry, March is so far away and I'm bored now. If GATO too scared of a few Wolves, Ill have to find fun 

 

Al

[AL Bundy]

2 hours ago, SirWilliam said:

lol Look at these nerds nerding about nerdy stuff

hahaha just bored..... idk  why I comment, ill just attack someone instead..... 

 

So funny GATO saying anything about fighting... their performance in global was SOOO GOOD that I guess they can comment on one of the best fighting alliances

 

Al

[DavidMustaine]

[kerschbs]

3 hours ago, Johnny Apocalypse said:

 

Back to your war with UCR/Red Alert; when the ghosts didn't quite cut it to ensure you would win? Mongols were more than happy to help and when we neutralised them as a threat, you eventually you had Non Grata at your side directly hitting UCR. You simply couldn't do it alone.

 

It's funny that you think they didn't (sorry hakai) spank you, given the eventual presence of all those friends you had backing you up when you realised your alliance was incapable of beating your opponent alone in a war that you started.

 

So yes; roll on March 18th, I look forward to your encore!

 

You don’t have to believe it, but NG sending ghosts to Wolves was far less calculating than this. We have people who are dying of boredom, ghosts hit our allies, seemed like a great reason to give people something to do. Plus, Wolves are awesome.

 

Same with Mongols, them hitting the commies wasn’t something nefarious plan to start a global (since no one wants that which is its own horrible problem) but what they thought at the time was a relatively safe casualty raiding target.

 

If we wanted to escalate the war we had an easy opportunity to around The Sabcat peace/ghost thing and a separate member of PGS directly hitting Wolves nations. Granted cooler heads prevailed (boo.) 

 

NG hitting UCR was for leverage and to throw off RFI since everyone expected us to decapitate PGS (hence why they all went to PM) and hit GATO. I’d argue it worked and provided everyone the opportunity to negotiate peace (again not necessarily what I wanted but I don’t get to start a war on a whim when I’m not even the head of an alliance anymore.) 

[jerdge]

13 hours ago, Johnny Apocalypse said:

[...]

You don't have to tell me how much it sucks leading a large alliance; the tedium of following the lines of the web according to the wishes of the allies of your allies, while your rivals are doing the exact same thing with both parties waiting for the other to make the first move because everyone is too scared to do it themselves in case it backfires. It's no wonder nothing really happens and I can understand why you chose to break away from it all.

[...]

Neutrality Is waaay simpler, but it doesn't really work any better at providing action, unless you just directly create it by attacking others. Which would basically be suicidal.

It's the mechanics, not the politics (but that horse is long, long dead).

[Johnny Apocalypse]

18 hours ago, jerdge said:

Neutrality Is waaay simpler, but it doesn't really work any better at providing action, unless you just directly create it by attacking others. Which would basically be suicidal.

It's the mechanics, not the politics (but that horse is long, long dead).

 

I do envy you sometimes but you are wrong about neutrality not being better at providing action. You are a True Neutral, whereas if you were Chaotic Neutral? GPA might deal with a rogue entity, might assist it- no allegiances or strong feelings either way regardless of if either choice was suicidal.

Edited January 5 by Johnny Apocalypse

[jerdge]

"Regardless"? That's the point.

 

CN mechanics don't prevent nations from being in range of too much stronger ones, and having to fight too many simultaneously, and seeing literally years or decades of work, to build up their firepower, hopelessly erased in a very short time - some weeks, sometimes a few days.

Nations interested in having any military meaning in the medium or long run can only do so by establishing allegiance with the biggest and strongest group in the pond.

Which is where we are. Since around 2008, I might add. As I had hinted at, this horse had been beaten to death so long ago that the people that knew those that had any memory of those originally beating it, have also mostly left this realm long ago.

 

Edit: for completeness, now we have few enough nations that a tight group of experienced, Wonders equipped, medium-low NS nations can do something meaningful, even without comprehensive links to the net of allegiance (and thanks to those links being somewhat loose, in fact). It can't shake up everything, or anything meaningful for that matter, but they can have a bit of the fun they like, at least. They just need to avoid any real challenge and/or to poke a true bear and they'll be OK.

(I'd still be bored by the lack of true challenge but hey, I'm not CN's universal role model...)

 

Also edit: for all I know 99% of the big alliances might be almost completely dead and unable to pull even a fraction of their weight... but keeping nations around and showing up once or twice a year isn't exactly demanding, thus they find it too easy to preserve and use their firepower. Which is another flaw of the mechanics we have, BTW.

 

Edited January 5 by jerdge
additional thoughts

[kingzog]

58 minutes ago, jerdge said:

for all I know 99% of the big alliances might be almost completely dead

 

 

I believe this to be so. The most obvious evidence: the complete death of politics.

 

Ongoing tech deals notwithstanding, most alliances are now little more than pretty facades.