Sir Kiloist Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 17 hours ago, Sigrun Vapneir said: Ok that's your second pompous post in this thread. Who are you and why am I supposed to care? A pompous !@#$%^& more than likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexio15 Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 14 minutes ago, Sir Kiloist said: A pompous !@#$%^& in charge of foreign affairs for some !@#$%* alliance, more than likely. Fixed that for you buddy, you're more then welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kiloist Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 30 minutes ago, Alexio15 said: Fixed that for you buddy, you're more then welcome Ahh, yeah forgot that important detail. I am a pompous !@#$%^& who is the Foreign Affairs guy for whatever alliance he's mentioning. Sorry I forgot to clarify that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigrun Vapneir Posted November 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) 19 hours ago, Immortan Junka said: 18 hours ago, Immortan Junka said: To: Rukunu From: Immortan Junka Date: 10/24/2016 12:10:04 AMSubject: Negotiations Message: CC: Sephiroth, Sigrun, Sir Kindle, Galerion I looked for this message. Although I have messages from you on the 22nd and the 23rd on a related subject, this does not appear, and I do not recall having seen it before. A bit of a head scratcher but I am sure there is a reasonable explantion? 10 hours ago, Immortan Junka said: Methrage used to effectively claim sovereignty over Animalz, and claimed back in January that leaving LPCN is "treason" and that SNX offering Animalz an alternative relationship was tantamount to poaching. So during the first War on Terror we never consider Animalz a sovereign alliance, and classified them a subordinate AA. That was bad propaganda the first time around and you know better than to try to recycle it again. Quote 15 hours ago, kingzog said: You want to re-join the community of civilized nations? That really made me laugh man. I hope something makes you laugh soon too. Edited November 13, 2016 by Sigrun Vapneir borken formatting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Sigrun Vapneir said: I looked for this message. Although I have messages from you on the 22nd and the 23rd on a related subject, this does not appear, and I do not recall having seen it before. A bit of a head scratcher but I am sure there is a reasonable explantion? Your copy is not in my outbox either, so either you deleted it by accident, or I forgot to add your name in the CC box. Here is Meth's copy: Quote That was bad propaganda the first time around and you know better than to try to recycle it again. Well let's not forget his "public trial" announcement, in which he claimed sovereignty over Supernova X, and demanded we leave brown: Quote I think at the very least Junka should be removed from SNX, absolving them of all guilt form his actions & him permanently moving Brown while under attack until he does.This is a pubic trial & this thread will decide his fate, as well as those who wish to support regardless of his obsession to undermine me on Brown and Blackmail my allies to betray me. [...] So lets work on a solution which doesn't give Junka the war between LPC & Doom he desires so much, but instead decide on a solution which makes a known traitor no longer a problem for either of us. Something I've learned is never trust a traitor or it will come back to haunt to you. I'm also giving Doom an honorable way they can sever ties with Junka, before he causes unfixable damage for your reputation. His treason and scheming [...blah blah blah] This is failing to recognize the sovereignty of both the Imperium and Animalz. Treason is an action that can only take place against an alliance sovereign, not as an interaction between foreign sovereigns or members of alliances. At the very least he could be considered an attempted usurper. Quote His crimes include getting others to attack the LPC, Blackmailing members of the LPC into leaving, using both war and treaties as leverae to getting aNiMaLz to leave the LPC many times. He offered no proof for these accusations, but the idea that sovereign alliances do not have the right to determine their foreign affairs choices is disturbing to say the least. All we did in the case of Animalz was offer them an alternative treaty with the Imperium if they left LPCN. This type of interaction, of drawing in new allies, is done all the time on the macro-political level, but according to Methrage it's a "crime" against his tyranny of brown. Let's not forget his frequent interference in the sanctioning of rogues which happens on every other sphere, which is a usurpation of the sovereignty of civilized alliances. In short Methrage failed to recognize the sovereignty of anyone other than himself, and demanded that all of brown team bow before his agenda. If you want to understand his deep unpopularity among people, it's because of his constant harassment of alliances he doesn't like, his willingness to backup rogues like Sir Kindle when they hit KoRT for no reason, and his dismissal of the sovereignty of everyone else on brown. Edited November 13, 2016 by Immortan Junka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingzog Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 9 hours ago, Sigrun Vapneir said: That really made me laugh man. I hope something makes you laugh soon too. I don't think anything will have me laughing harder than the OP for quite some time. You pick the best friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Hardin Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 Junka has 3 hours to comply with my demands or else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galerion Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 29 minutes ago, President Hardin said: Junka has 3 hours to comply with my demands or else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 BTW in case anyone wants to know what's going on with Animalz, here is their stated position when it comes to peace: So Sir Kindle needs to change his tune, and the Imperium cannot be blamed for the foolishness of Animalz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabcat Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 This thread is brilliant. Who's going to win this power struggle for the great prize of leadership of LPCN, Sigrun or Hardin? I can't wait to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabcat Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Sephiroth is fine btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Sabcat said: This thread is brilliant. Who's going to win this power struggle for the great prize of leadership of LPCN, Sigrun or Hardin? I can't wait to find out. Don't forget about Doornail, who says SNX shouldn't sanction back when we get sanctioned by Hardin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Hardin Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Sabcat said: This thread is brilliant. Who's going to win this power struggle for the great prize of leadership of LPCN, Sigrun or Hardin? I can't wait to find out. these inbreds will always choose me. Sigrun is out of touch with the youthful generation these animalz are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kiloist Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Sabcat said: This thread is brilliant. Who's going to win this power struggle for the great prize of leadership of LPCN, Sigrun or Hardin? I can't wait to find out. I think the term win isn't the appropriate term here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gowfanatic Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 at this point, are ANY of us really "going to win?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Hardin Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 5 minutes ago, gowfanatic said: at this point, are ANY of us really "going to win?" sell down, teach me how to win again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoorNail Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Just now, Immortan Junka said: Don't forget about Doornail, who says SNX shouldn't sanction back when we get sanctioned by Hardin: That's a nice shot that's out of context clip of the six pages. Should've just sanctioned Hardin IMO, you made it into a sanction fest including a lot of nation TC's. You're just as bad as Hardin by using 2 senators to sanction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Hardin Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 1 hour ago, DoorNail said: That's a nice shot that's out of context clip of the six pages. Should've just sanctioned Hardin IMO, you made it into a sanction fest including a lot of nation TC's. You're just as bad as Hardin by using 2 senators to sanction. twice as bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingzog Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 4 hours ago, Sabcat said: This thread is brilliant. Who's going to win this power struggle for the great prize of leadership of LPCN, Sigrun or Hardin? I can't wait to find out. It's quite the prize to fight over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Wait, Methrage has been silent for over a month? This is truly a sign that the end is nigh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Fire Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 4 hours ago, Sabcat said: Sephiroth is fine btw That made me laugh and then it made me sad. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 14 hours ago, Immortan Junka said: BTW in case anyone wants to know what's going on with Animalz, here is their stated position when it comes to peace: So Sir Kindle needs to change his tune, and the Imperium cannot be blamed for the foolishness of Animalz. Funny cause Animalz seems to be begging the coalition for peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 13 hours ago, DoorNail said: Should've just sanctioned Hardin IMO, you made it into a sanction fest including a lot of nation TC's. You're just as bad as Hardin by using 2 senators to sanction. Logically, it would make sense to sanction Hardin's voters as well. Collective responsibility and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Hardin Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Haflinger said: Logically, it would make sense to sanction Hardin's voters as well. Collective responsibility and all that. Galerion uses sanctions. Sanction all of his voters, collective responsibility and all that. I voted for galerion btw, he's supported by terrorists and is a terrorist himself! Edited November 14, 2016 by President Hardin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoorNail Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Just now, Haflinger said: Logically, it would make sense to sanction Hardin's voters as well. Collective responsibility and all that. He duped several people with this stunt, even he knows there's no way he could've gotten a senate seat had he mentioned he was going rogue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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