Beauty Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 [quote name='Jgoods45' timestamp='1338242156' post='2973694'] Well, I guess I'll start calling myself the Emperor of Ragnarok. [/quote] Ragnarok has more respect for itself than to give you a position. Anyways, NPO/IRON needs to stop white knighting NG. Let them fight they're own battles. Also, how would NG vs. MCXA even be fair? I get it, NG has never had a fair fight but 4.1M NS vs. 13.6m? Thats not a fair fight. Oh and the slot efficiency is ok due to your amount of members? In that case, MHA must be extremely active too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 I always wondered why the strong IRON-MCXA bond deteriorated. if it was over MCXA selling to Gre during the unconditional surrender fiasco, it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercoolyellow Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1338244640' post='2973710'] I always wondered why the strong IRON-MCXA bond deteriorated. if it was over MCXA selling to Gre during the unconditional surrender fiasco, it makes sense. [/quote] It was 50 tech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgoods45 Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1338244473' post='2973709'] Ragnarok has more respect for itself than to give you a position. Anyways, NPO/IRON needs to stop white knighting NG. Let them fight they're own battles. Also, how would NG vs. MCXA even be fair? I get it, NG has never had a fair fight but 4.1M NS vs. 13.6m? Thats not a fair fight. Oh and the slot efficiency is ok due to your amount of members? In that case, MHA must be extremely active too. [/quote] Then I guess all the alliances that ever allowed you into their government or low government positions had brain dead leaderships. Isn't that surprising really. Edit: I wouldn't say that about Duncan King though. I like her enough to not insult her like that. Edited May 29, 2012 by Jgoods45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caustic Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 [quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1338244473' post='2973709'] I get it, NG has never had a fair fight [/quote] I'd ask if you even know the histories of the individual alliances that make up NG... but the answer is pretty obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 [quote name='Caustic' timestamp='1338246118' post='2973719'] I'd ask if you even know the histories of the individual alliances that make up NG... but the answer is pretty obvious [/quote] Id ask if you knew the history of the CXA/MCCF/MDC/ etc who have merged into MCXA as well, but you still wouldnt make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYIyTh Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 (edited) I'd wager that it's just convenient to drudge it up and I'm pretty sure 90-95% of IRON is completely unaware it ever happened. Edited May 29, 2012 by IYIyTh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 [quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1338247073' post='2973727'] I'd wager that it's juts convenient to drudge it up and I'm pretty sure 90-95% of IRON is completely unaware it ever happened. [/quote] Id agree with this. I didn't think the MCXA-IRON bond would of ever broken. Its a shame such a large friendship would of been destroyed due to one of our lower members selling 50 tech to Gramlins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgoods45 Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 [quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1338247185' post='2973728'] Id agree with this. I didn't think the MCXA-IRON bond would of ever broken. Its a shame such a large friendship would of been destroyed due to one of our lower members selling 50 tech to Gramlins. [/quote] I don't think IRON would take much pleasure in being allied to you so in the end, it worked out for the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 [quote name='Jgoods45' timestamp='1338251746' post='2973773'] I don't think IRON would take much pleasure in being allied to you so in the end, it worked out for the better. [/quote] They took pleasure in pre-emptively striking you though xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYIyTh Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 [quote name='Jgoods45' timestamp='1338251746' post='2973773'] I don't think IRON would take much pleasure in being allied to you so in the end, it worked out for the better. [/quote] That would just be awkward and inconvenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYIyTh Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 (edited) Double post Edited May 29, 2012 by IYIyTh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldConqueror Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 [quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1338252058' post='2973779'] They took pleasure in pre-emptively striking you though xD [/quote] You do know how that turned out for them, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solaris Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 [quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1338244855' post='2973711'] It was 50 tech. [/quote] Sounds like not the whole story. I wonder what really happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercoolyellow Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 [quote name='Solaris' timestamp='1338262933' post='2973926'] Sounds like not the whole story. I wonder what really happened. [/quote] I have my suspicions, but what IRON officially told us at the time, and what some of their leaders have stuck to, is that 50 tech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgoods45 Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 [quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1338252058' post='2973779'] They took pleasure in pre-emptively striking you though xD [/quote] You do know we won in the end right? Nah, you probably forgot that bit of information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccabal86 Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 [quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1338247073' post='2973727'] I'd wager that it's just convenient to drudge it up and I'm pretty sure 90-95% of IRON is completely unaware it ever happened. [/quote] Actually, the BR was quite pissed at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander shepard Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 [quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1338254259' post='2973812'] That would just be awkward and inconvenient. [/quote] It happened a bit too long ago for that to come up. You're awkward and inconvenient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYIyTh Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 (edited) [quote name='ccabal86' timestamp='1338272549' post='2973973'] Actually, the BR was quite pissed at the time. [/quote] I have a hard time believing the majority of IRON has suddenly found the time to care about such an incident -- especially considering the myriad of things that actually could be considered grudge-worthy that happened during that time period that aren't spoken about. [quote name='Commander shepard' timestamp='1338277250' post='2973993'] You're awkward and inconvenient [/quote] Someone has to be -- or else you'd be bored and have to start fighting each other. [img]http://forums.cybernations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/blush.gif[/img] Edited May 29, 2012 by IYIyTh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCRABT Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 [quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1338229762' post='2973639'] That was the point. [img]http://forums.cybernations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif[/img] [/quote] The point is there isn't a point. That's a clever trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 [quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1338244473' post='2973709'] Ragnarok has more respect for itself than to give you a position.[/quote] I'm sure Ragnarok could benefit from a person with such experience as this guy has, if they put him at the helm. I don't know who's heading RoK at the moment but if you take a look at both alliances in terms of political and military power, it can't be a bad idea to have an NGer in charge. [quote]Anyways, NPO/IRON needs to stop white knighting NG. Let them fight they're own battles.[/quote] They do fight their own battles. It's not a crime to have allies, although I'm sure you already knew that and you were simply making a weak attempt at convincing NPO/IRON to consider dropping NG. [quote]Also, how would NG vs. MCXA even be fair? I get it, NG has never had a fair fight but 4.1M NS vs. 13.6m? Thats not a fair fight.[/quote] Why does the fight have to be fair? NG is not at fault for being many times stronger than MCXA. If you want to make it a "fair fight", you're going to have to either close the gap or obtain similarly powerful allies. [quote]Oh and the slot efficiency is ok due to your amount of members? In that case, MHA must be extremely active too.[/quote] NG is a large alliance, thus a lower aid slot efficiency isn't necessarily bad. Yes the number could be improved but the same goes for every alliance, not just NG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccabal86 Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 [quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1338279514' post='2974004'] I have a hard time believing the majority of IRON has suddenly found the time to care about such an incident -- especially considering the myriad of things that actually could be considered grudge-worthy that happened during that time period that aren't spoken about. [/quote] Good thing you remember how it happened. You were there after all. It wasn't even gov that brought the issue forth, it was some average member who made a topic about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raken Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 Congrats to NG, Glad to see you finally decided to move Arexes from Shadow Trium to the actual position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataduanes Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 Best of luck Arexes. [quote name='King Xander the Only' timestamp='1338051459' post='2972792'] [img]http://israelity.com/wp-content//2010/06/elton-john.jpg[/img] [/quote] Oh dear lord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYIyTh Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 [quote name='MCRABT' timestamp='1338283544' post='2974012'] The point is there isn't a point. That's a clever trick. [/quote] The point was that your subjective speculation was just that -- subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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