NationRuler Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1330293261' post='2928777'] There are two good alliances in PB: FOK/VE. I considered Umbrella swing, but they're not really. [/quote] :masterstroke: my feelings are hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted February 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 [quote name='NationRuler' timestamp='1330293803' post='2928785'] :masterstroke: my feelings are hurt. [/quote] DH still exists. Case in point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NationRuler Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1330293851' post='2928787'] DH still exists. Case in point. [/quote] Terrible alliances, all of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted February 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Given MK's actions, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardonic Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1330293851' post='2928787'] DH still exists. Case in point. [/quote] Reminder that Doomhouse was my idea, not MK's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seerow Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 [quote name='Sardonic' timestamp='1330294507' post='2928796'] Reminder that Doomhouse was my idea, not MK's. [/quote] But you are clearly an MK puppet, you only suggested it because we willed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threefingeredguy Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 So are you guys like a cover band or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1330292954' post='2928771'] Consider me the equivalent to say the entire MK posting squad since I am able to take them on handily more or less. [/quote] Your idea of taking on others' posts is often changing the subject entirely and bringing out some theory that you expect everyone to believe as a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted February 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) Doomhouse was Sardonic's idea of a three way treaty because MK didn't want to join PB because MK disliked VE/PC and just saw iFOK as part of a package deal with FOK. 3fg: We'll have to see. Parasol Porn: [img]http://static3.pixdaus.com/files/items/pics/2/10/86210_3ac1f6dde32a5337aea15da39fee3c1e_large.jpg[/img] Damn it Drai. Not really. Most of what you say is total bs. I just debunk it. Edited February 26, 2012 by Roquentin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardonic Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1330295122' post='2928803'] Doomhouse was Sardonic's idea of a three way treaty [/quote] Yes, because of the special relationship of UMB/MK and us. [quote] because MK didn't want to join PB because MK disliked VE/PC and just saw iFOK as part of a package deal with FOK. [/quote] No. Obviously DH wouldn't have made sense if MK was in PB, but, no. Edited February 26, 2012 by Sardonic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted February 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Yes. That is the truth. Don't try to squirm out of it. It was a contingency to them not wanting to join PB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1330295122' post='2928803'] Damn it Drai. Not really. Most of what you say is total bs. I just debunk it. [/quote] In your whole return on the OWF I haven't stated anything factual that you have replied to except for one comment about our war capabilities that you only really said 'ask TPF'. So let's take this post you just made for example. Your problem is you refuse to accept that anything outside of what you say is false (can't admit you've made a mistake) so you will always believe that you debunk everything. It makes arguments like this kind of pointless for me really. Edited February 26, 2012 by Drai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardonic Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1330295279' post='2928806'] Yes. That is the truth. Don't try to squirm out of it. It was a contingency to them not wanting to join PB. [/quote] Not particularly, it wasn't proposed until PB had been around a while iirc, and it came about as a result of Gunnar's treaty-shredding fest. New treaties were required, so I proposed a summation treaty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted February 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Drai' timestamp='1330295853' post='2928809'] In your whole return on the OWF I haven't stated anything factual that you have replied to except for one comment about our war capabilities that you only really said 'ask TPF'. So let's take this post you just made for example. [/quote] How exactly? Most of what MK posts is just opinion or outright lying. You did it so much about me. TPF did have an account that matched MK's war abilities. VE also thought MK was doing poorly as well during the war. Where else do I have to go? No, Sardonic, PB was stalled because of MK. DH came out soon after PB. Edited February 26, 2012 by Roquentin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1330296039' post='2928812'] How exactly? Most of what MK posts is just opinion or outright lying. You did it so much about me. TPF did have an account that matched MK's war abilities. VE also thought MK was doing poorly as well during the war. Where else do I have to go? [/quote] And have you ever thought about what your posts look like from another person's view? Opinions and outright lying are pretty accurate there in a lot of cases. I'm not sure if your comment was aimed at me specifically or MK as a whole which is why I brought up that I had only made one real response to you since your return out here. The TPF accounts were very focused on individual fronts and not the war as a whole. You can't extrapolate that much and expect it to be accurate. I talked to them in another thread about it. Also Impero was accusing us of not having enough offensive wars which nearly everybody in DH can say is false. You even accused us of being trigger-happy so I don't know why you're citing VE as a source when it goes directly against an accusation you've made recently. Edited February 26, 2012 by Drai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keelah Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Let's stay on topic, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardonic Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) [S] [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1330296039' post='2928812'] DH came out soon after PB. [/quote] I'm really not sure why you're arguing about this? Would I have proposed DH if MK was in PB? No. Does that mean that DH was formed [I]only[/I] because MK was not in PB? No. What are you trying to say? That I formed DH so that MK would have more influence over Umbrella? If you're going to make that accusation, you may as well, instead of dancing around the issue with mundane questions of timing.[/S] You probably shouldn't have founded a micro, Roq, it's sad, you'll probably only get one new member, Kortal, when he fails in his bid to rejoin Umbrella. Edited February 26, 2012 by Sardonic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted February 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) From an MKer's view yes. Offensive wars outside of the upper tier of MK were probably lacking. That is the distinction I have made. Overactive upper tier, slacking everything else. I'm done on that subject. Edited February 26, 2012 by Roquentin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Bromeini Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 I like the graphic. Good luck with his. You're good enough at IA I'm sure it will do well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted February 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Exactly. Unlike a lot of people who just make alliances where they're the figurehead and expect everyone else to do the work for them, statecraft is something I am integrally involved in when I am in an alliance or leading it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 [quote name='Ayatollah Bromeini' timestamp='1330297022' post='2928821'] I like the graphic. Good luck with his. You're good enough at IA I'm sure it will do well. [/quote] It's an old Umbrella graphic just coloured in Red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NationRuler Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 [quote name='Ayatollah Bromeini' timestamp='1330297022' post='2928821'] I like the graphic. [/quote] It's new [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=90383&st=0&p=2406525&hl=+umbrella%20+announcement&fromsearch=1&#entry2406525"]Except for here[/url] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=81491&st=0&p=2198635&hl=+umbrella%20+announcement&fromsearch=1&#entry2198635"]and here[/url] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=80949&st=0&p=2184540&hl=+umbrella%20+announcement&fromsearch=1&#entry2184540"]and here[/url] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=80354&st=0&p=2169099&hl=+umbrella%20+announcement&fromsearch=1&#entry2169099"]and here[/url] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=80254&st=0&p=2166186&hl=+umbrella%20+announcement&fromsearch=1&#entry2166186"]and here[/url] and on and on and on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted February 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) Green replaced with Red. Umbrella Brrd has been one of my favorites and I wanted to use it with this alliance. I also wrote the NFL announcement, so it has always been my thing to use it. Edited February 26, 2012 by Roquentin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iherudia Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1330291515' post='2928730'] Also I'd like to make it clear, I'm perfectly willing to change the theme once Umbrella stops closing off its ownmost possibilities and becomes authentic. It'll be the same alliance, but I have another theme in mind. [/quote] We actually have no issue with you using our theme and graphics. Maybe Paraguas can be the official Spanish-speaking version of Umbrella? [quote name='Sardonic' timestamp='1330296734' post='2928817'] Kortal, when he fails in his bid to rejoin Umbrella. [/quote] What makes you so sure it will fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yevgeni Luchenkov Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Next time you decide to form a new alliance, I'd suggest HoT's way: find an already established community where they accept any desperate man, infiltrate it to look as one of them and then propose them a migration to this game. Make the alliance theme about what they like (if furries, call it Wolfpack, you get the idea). You will have a hundred new nations to shape as you see fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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