ComeAndSee Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 (edited) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0Agn6uOxqsdwbdFhGa1VvUVBLUVVsSzVfUW41UnNkV0E&output=html This spreadsheet is from the C&G vs TOP/IRON war over 600~ days ago which is the root cause of the current war. This was the actual spreadsheet used by the C&G high command and was deemed TOP SECRET at its time, but due to time and the shift of alliances I thought it would be an interesting piece of history for those new and old to look at. The first two columns on the left (IRON-TOP & C&G) were from the IRON-TOP & C/G war and the ones on the far right (NpO and C&G) were from the NpO-\m/ war. This is not intended to be a flame thread nor does it represent my alliance. I release this as a historian so I am responsible because I made it back in the day. Edited December 9, 2011 by ComeAndSee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canik Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 What is KATAR score? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComeAndSee Posted December 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 [quote name='Canik' timestamp='1323469448' post='2871248'] What is KATAR score? [/quote] That is still a secret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanB Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 [quote name='ComeAndSee' timestamp='1323469523' post='2871251'] That is still a secret. [/quote] that makes me even more curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opaque Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Very cool stuff you got there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanilla Napalm Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 God damn, i forgot how much of a monolith TOP was at that stage. 16m ns for some 200-odd nations is insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriekfreak Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 [quote name='Canik' timestamp='1323469448' post='2871248'] What is KATAR score? [/quote] Probably the ability to $%&@ your alliance up. Their own strength formula, I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feanor Noldorin Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 [quote name='Vanilla Napalm' timestamp='1323472711' post='2871299'] God damn, i forgot how much of a monolith TOP was at that stage. 16m ns for some 200-odd nations is insane. [/quote] Strongest alliance this game will ever see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriekfreak Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Until babyjesus came. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerdge Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 [quote name='ComeAndSee' timestamp='1323467433' post='2871218']This is not intended to be a flame thread nor does it represent my alliance. I release this as a historian so I am responsible because I made it back in the day. [/quote] As a rule of thumb, if you made it on your own and it doesn't contain any third-party confidential information, it's yours to make what you want of it (I didn't check it, but I'll assume it contains public alliance data about those times). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 ^Yeah, the data is all pretty public. This is really interesting, thanks OP. It feels like the time from Karma until BiPolar was special in CN due to all the uncertainty, although maybe it just seems that way to me because it's when I started playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComeAndSee Posted December 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 (edited) [quote] As a rule of thumb, if you made it on your own and it doesn't contain any third-party confidential information, it's yours to make what you want of it (I didn't check it, but I'll assume it contains public alliance data about those times). [/quote] [quote]^Yeah, the data is all pretty public. This is really interesting, thanks OP. It feels like the time from Karma until BiPolar was special in CN due to all the uncertainty, although maybe it just seems that way to me because it's when I started playing.[/quote] It's more or less like you said just a public data collection from the time that was sorted for easy understanding to get the war planners up to speed on events. War is chaos in CN and you have to keep organized and who knows -- there's probably spreadsheets from even further back and ones for both sides on the current affairs. Disclosing new -- current information is a no, no and we all know where that leads. Edited December 10, 2011 by ComeAndSee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megamind Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 [quote name='kriekfreak' timestamp='1323472794' post='2871304'] Probably the ability to $%&@ your alliance up. Their own strength formula, I'd say. [/quote] Looking at the score for MHA and Sparta, I'd say that their formula was pretty flawed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandwich Controversy Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 (edited) Haha, I remember this now. [quote name='kriekfreak' timestamp='1323472939' post='2871310'] Until babyjesus came. [/quote] Edited December 10, 2011 by Sandwich Controversy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myzebedeeistaken Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 Had a bit of a chuckle about the optimistic planning to take TOP out of a war compared with what ended up being needed. Fun days even if I mourn the loss of so much tech. CnG, TOP, TSO and IRON alone must have lost something like 2 million between them. Good fight though - lot of good players on the different sides giving it hammer and tongs. The LM and Oyababy 'who can drop the biggest nuke' thread used to make me wince. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groucho Marx Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 \m/ with almost 2M ns. Good times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deimos27 Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 Fascinating stuff, thank you for this relic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshuaR Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 [quote name='kriekfreak' timestamp='1323472939' post='2871310'] Until babyjesus came. [/quote] There's a joke in here somewhere but I can't quite find a way to get a handle on the slippery thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmmehhh Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 Damn, back then we were significantly bigger then now alliance Nation Strength Nukes KATAR Score FOK 8,201,040 2,705 1,312 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComeAndSee Posted December 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Timmehhh' timestamp='1323519257' post='2872448'] Damn, back then we were significantly bigger then now alliance Nation Strength Nukes KATAR Score FOK 8,201,040 2,705 1,312 [/quote] A lot of alliances were much bigger than they use to, but the game has a habit of shrinking itself. Edited December 10, 2011 by ComeAndSee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londo Mollari Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 [quote]Athens Attacked by TOP, IRON, DAWN, TORN 6,129,968 1,723 779 y[/quote] I remember these days fondly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innerspeaker Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 I remember fondly the days when we had TOP on top, followed by 4 or 5 titans all separated by 1mil NS or less (MHA, IRON, NpO, Sparta, somebody else iirc). The game was in such a state of "flux" back then and I miss that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timberland Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 [quote name='Vanilla Napalm' timestamp='1323472711' post='2871299'] God damn, i forgot how much of a monolith TOP was at that stage. 16m ns for some 200-odd nations is insane. [/quote] 62 nations above 100k and 1.5m tech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeline Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Vanilla Napalm' timestamp='1323472711' post='2871299'] God damn, i forgot how much of a monolith TOP was at that stage. 16m ns for some 200-odd nations is insane. [/quote] Still think Umbrella with 105 nations and 11.2m NS would be the alliance of power houses. and still more tech then they have infra........ I would put everything on the line that no alliance not even those who out number Umbrella could stand up to a one on one with them. (that means TOP as well even at their hight of 200 members and 16m ns) Edited December 12, 2011 by Timeline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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