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[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1314970487' post='2792921'] There's a difference between an even match and a fair fight. The objective of a war might be to win, but the objective of playing CN is to have fun, and there's really nothing fun about a 13:1 war. It's like the last 30 minutes of a game of RISK when you've already won but you have to keep sitting there so you can take over the rest of the map, it's not fun, it's mindnumbing. The fun part of any game is while you're winning but there is a challenge, or when you're not winning but there is a chance you could. The method of CN to skip everything and go right to the last 30 minutes makes it boring for everyone. The result is what you saw in the last war and the GATO-One Vision War: the targets just decided that if it was pointless and boring, then just sit in peacemode for 4 months and not play the game. [/quote] Agree with everything you have said here. As a longtime player, gw2-gw3 were fun because they were fairly even (even if I was in GATO each war.) GATO-1v we fought something like 10:1 odds the entire time, and if you remember, peace mode=pzi for our alliance members. A lot of people deleted because of that nonsense and the duration we were kept at war. Bi-Polar and even the last dust up were both interesting wars, albeit with different results for my alliance (one win, one loss.) At least they were even enough that it kept things interesting.

[quote name='Zoomzoomzoom' timestamp='1311885361' post='2766376'] Holy $%&@ Nueva Vida. You're worse than you have ever been. [/quote] Wow, and I !@#$%* about our aid slot usage.

The closest thing you will find that will make you happy would be joining one of the team trade partner alliances. There is no obligation to do anything but sit on that specific color and wear the AA. May I suggest Brown Trade Partner as your AA. Lord knows Brown needs the trades, and you will be protected from raiders.

[quote name='Mixer' timestamp='1311726917' post='2764516'] Hooligans, you may as well cancel this treaty now because GATO sure as hell won't defend you when you need it. My condolences in advance. [/quote] Put your money where your mouth is? Please?

[quote name='Ironfist' timestamp='1311255329' post='2760486'] Aye, but I only weigh 150 pounds. The conversion is on the house. A man of a calibre as high as yours surely knows basic [i]science[/i], correct? Also what is GATO doing over there? You guys have dropped huge amounts of people from the AA but that score isn't budging. [/quote] Who you gonna call....ghost busters.

[quote name='Greg23' timestamp='1311021574' post='2758643'] For some reason there are people who want to make this worse and start a fight. IAA hold no ill-will towards NpO and wish them the best. We also did not race to the OWF to try to spin this, all of this happened 5 days ago, we waited for the cancellation period of the treaty. I'd hardly call this a race and I apologize for the misunderstanding to outside of how this all went down. We believe it was a mix-up and I am sure Random and others at NpO would agree there is no problem. [/quote] Good show greg. Considering what Polaris and IAA have been through historically there is no need for mud slinging in this cancellation. Though it's pretty funny to watch people squabble at each other (GATOan's included.)

I have to hail this development. We support you 100% IAA. o/

[quote name='Xiao Weng' timestamp='1310216842' post='2753241'] Gosh, because going into a war we had no interest in on your behalf was so vile. But this does let me know what the thought processes are over there. Thank you for that. [/quote] You act like you expect anything less from such a quality alliance. I can't say I approve of this. I like SOM, but while Liz leads your alliance I cannot wish you luck.

o/ Das This is the wonderful woman who recruited me to GATO when I was about to apply to NPO back in 06. I don't think I could have made a better choice And yes, unfortunately Das is not incredibly active anymore. However, anytime the nukes are about to fly, she always shows up to donate aid slots and to bring the glorious nuclear fire. I only wish we were lucky enough to see more of her.

[quote name='Sandwich Controversy' timestamp='1309921503' post='2749966'] Dropping the only alliance with any sort of faith in Legion is a really bad idea. Even if Legion wants to get away from the side perpetually losing wars, they're going to need NPO for a long time until they can fundamentally reshape themselves, something I doubt is in the realm of possibility. They should instead turn to NPO once again for help. While they aren't exactly the most popular alliance around, they at least have a good idea of how to run an alliance. And about NSO: if you want to earn back even the tiniest bit of respect from the world at large, you need to attack them. Simple as. They've shown an utter lack of respect for you and provided one of the most clear-cut casus bellis in history. If you win, it will be costly, but show that Legion is a principled alliance willing to fight to defend its members, and you'll have taught NSO a valuable lesson. If you lose, you'll still show that the Legion will stand up for itself, but also poor, inactive members will melt off, allowing a more streamlined alliance with a larger proportion of contributing members. This would be much easier to organize into a relatively strong alliance. [/quote] I agree with everything in this post. Legion, the world will respect you more if you stand up for yourselves.

This is just mean at this point. It is blatantly obvious that Legion has some serious issues that need to be addressed, but is it really worth it to drag it out like this? That being said, how Legion hasn't grown a pair and defended themselves is just ridiculous. The loss of face you are taking for this incident is just ridiculous. No matter what the damage you will take in a war, it has to be better then what is already happening to you.

Very excited about this. o/ The Brain

You released them from terms that should never have been imposed. Well, it's a start I guess.

[quote name='magicninja' timestamp='1308951573' post='2740690'] So, I leave for a bit and then you start making all the moves I suggested months ago.... I see how you are Timmy and Laser. Wait til I get back, though I don't know when that will be just yet. [/quote] These weren't easy choices to make buddy, you know how GATO works. These have all been long in the making. I look forward to when you come back, we have things to do.

[quote name='Hereno' timestamp='1308883409' post='2739913'] Interesting. An alliance who defends all of it's allies tied to an alliance who defends none of it's allies. [/quote] Interesting opinion there friend. Do you happen to know anything about GATO? I suggest you read up on our history a little before you open your mouth, unless you like the taste of shoe-leather that is.

Very disappointing, this looked like it had real potential. Shouldn't have let them go Chim.

I would love to merge GATO-IAA-Loss. I think this combination would be fun as hell.

Rush, Jgoods, and Voodoo all in one government lineup? Looks pretty damn awesome to me

Man, I feel like Gino just rolled in his grave. This move suits you CSN, nice to see Liz and Gibs back in Government.

Tamer, I sincerely hope this is a joke.

I got to fight you when you were in NPO (gw3 I believe?) and I had the honor of meeting you again in the last go around of RIA-GATO fighting. It was a pleasure both times, maybe I get to see you again in a year or two?

[quote name='magicninja' timestamp='1303241994' post='2693817'] Of course it's aggression. Who said it wasn't? It's blatant. I'm just saying when everyone saw their warchests and remembered battalion spouting that his alliance could whip just about anyone one on one ( much less a smaller alliance like us) we decided to put him to the test. Simple as that. It's just for a few rounds if he wants to play. if not well then we get to see his true colors. Now all of you should shuddapaufaces, [/quote] This doesn't make you guys look to good magic. You guys are basically acting out an old grudge, and punishing an entire alliance because of two members. Pretty low move if you ask me, and I'm not happy to see this.

I had Old Rasputin when I was back home around Christmas. Amazing beer, I wish I could find it where I live now.

[quote name='+Zeke+' timestamp='1302218811' post='2686392'] 1500 days? Bah! Just a n00b! Wait until you are a grizzled 1700 day nation! Damn noisy kids! Just kidding. Congrats on sticking with the same nation and resisting the temptation to reroll when things heated up. Carry your old baggage around with pride, I say. [/quote] 1,684 days old---So close

[quote name='Cataduanes' timestamp='1302210628' post='2686316'] Has the GATO old guard all retired or something? congrats to the new govt nevertheless. [color="#A0522D"]GATO[/color] [/quote] Not quite old friend, we still yell at the children from the middle of our yards.